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    Korea TTA Final Trial for Tokyo 2020+1 - 1/29, 1/31-2/1, 2/3-2/4

    After the fiasco last year that led to the resignation of Yoo Namkyu, Korea TTA is back with another trial for Tokyo 2020. Man, these guys just don't get tired of it, though lessons learned.

    KTTA: How do we go about it? Ctrl-c the JTTA.

    3 men and 3 women will be determined:
    1 man and 1 woman by world ranking(JWJ and JJH, 11th and 15th in Jan, 2021, respectively),
    1 man and 1 woman by final trial, 2 stages spread out over 5 days:
    1st selection - 1/29,
    final selection 1, 2 - 1/31-2/1, 2/3-2/4,
    1 man and 1 woman by recommendation based on results of the final selection.

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    ■ Outline of the selection of national teams dispatched to the 2020 Tokyo Olympics
    ...
    3. Selection of Participants
    A. 1st Selection
    1) Target Participants
    1 National team dispatched to the 2018, 2019 World Table Tennis Championships individual/team events
    2 National team dispatched to the 2018 Jakarta-Palembang Asian Games
    3 National team dispatched to the 2019 Asian Table Tennis Championships

    2) Detailed List of Players
    Men's
    1 Cho Daeseong WR141
    2 Park Ganghyeon WR146
    3 Kim Minhyeok WR230
    4 Kim Donghyun WR354

    Women's
    1 Yang Haeun WR81
    2 Yoo Eunchong WR162[Note: Incorrectly listed as WR127 in the original document]
    3 Kim Jiho WR465

    B. Final selection
    1) Target Participants
    1 National team dispatched to the 2020 World Table Tennis Championships and the Tokyo Olympic Qualifiers
    2 1st place in the 1st selection

    2) Detailed List of Players
    Men's
    1 Jeoung Youngsik WR13
    2 Lee Sangsu WR22
    3 An Jaehyun WR39
    4 Lim Jonghoon WR71
    5 1st place in 1st selection(Cho Daeseong)

    Women's
    1 Suh Hyowon WR21
    2 Choi Hyojoo WR64
    3 Shin Yubin WR94
    4 Lee Zion WR106
    5 Lee Eunhye WR127
    6 1st place in 1st selection(Yang Haeun)

    4. Format of Competition and Method of Ranking
    A. 1st selection: single round robin, best of 7
    1 The first-placed player of the round robin advances to the final selection

    B. Final selection: double round robin(final selection 1, final selection 2), best of 7
    1 Select one top player based on the results of final selection 1 and final selection 2
    2 In case of a tie, the ranking is determined by the winner's wins.
    3 If the ranking is not determined by the winner's wins, the ranking will be determined by applying the gain-loss offense-defense ratio

    C. Allocation of Round Robin Order
    - 1st selection: According to the world rankings in Jan, 2021
    - Final selection 1: According to the world rankings in Jan, 2021
    - Final selection 2: According to the results of final selection 1
    Live streaming will be available on KTTA's Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVP...hZhced5r1FelIQ

    https://www.hankyung.com/sports/article/202101279879Y

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    Can someone explain the Yoo Nam Kyu resignation to me? It sounds like he wanted to determine the Olympic team through many (infinite?) competitions and someone recorded him? What? And he got into trouble?????

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    A mix of nepotism and nationalism. Nothing good but nothing consequential, either.

    Not unusual for KTTA. They've been riddled with power struggle and mismanagement for years. Their players are so used to it that they just live on as if nothing happened after the storm.

    After getting voted into the 25th president of KTTA last month, RSM has assigned Yoo Namkyu, and Hyun Junghwa as vice presidents, and Kim Taeksoo as executive director.
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    Wonder what happened to Seok Ha Jung. She just faded away mysteriously after 2012 Olympics. Just speculation but perhaps she was one of the few who grew fed up of the system.

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    Mwo? I'm the only World Champion on the team okay! Aish!

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    KTTA has finalized the streaming schedule. Time table for the matches, however, is still not provided. Time table for the training sessions is, though. Yay!

    http://www.koreatta.or.kr/servlets/o...ate=&b_search=

    According to the link above, it will start at 10:00 Korea Standard Time on 1/31-2/1 and 2/3-4. What about the first day?
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    Wonder what happened to Seok Ha Jung. She just faded away mysteriously after 2012 Olympics. Just speculation but perhaps she was one of the few who grew fed up of the system.
    Can't find much after 2013 when she last won the national for the 3rd time, beating JJH in the final . Then in another news in 2015, it's reported she has retired along with a few other imported players.

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    Timetable for KTTA Olympic Trial Matches

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    KTTA has finalized the streaming schedule. Time table for the matches, however, is still not provided. Time table for the training sessions is, though. Yay!

    http://www.koreatta.or.kr/servlets/o...ate=&b_search=

    According to the link above, it will start at 10:00 Korea Standard Time on 1/31-2/1 and 2/3-4. What about the first day?
    I viewed the link and KTTA updated the schedule of matches for 1/31-2/1, the first leg of the final selection stage. Here is the English Translation. Note: I just used Google's Auto Translate. Just note that the names "Coarseness" is Cho Daeseong, and "Ision" is Lee Zion.



    I didn't include the schedule for February 3-4 yet, which are the dates for the 2nd leg of the final selection stage since the schedule of the 2nd leg will be dependent on the results of the 1st leg of the final selection stage, which will happen from January 31 to February 1.

    Apparently, the final selection stage is a double round robin, where a player plays each other player twice. It is divided into 2 legs.
    • The 1st leg is from January 31-February 1 (First round robin)
    • The 2nd leg is from February 3-February 4 (2nd round robin)


    Based on my understanding, the winner of the Olympic trials will be the top player based on his/her 1st leg ranking and 2nd leg ranking results. Every win is 2 pts, a loss is 1pt and a withdrawal is 0 pts. If there is a tie, Head-to-Head record is the tiebreaker. If there is still a tie, games won and loss ratio will be the tiebreaker. Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect. I've copied and pasted the original text so those fluent in Korean may give a clearer interpretation:

    선발전 경기 방법 및 순위 결정 방식
    가. 1차 선발전 : 풀리그전 1회, 7게임제
    ① 리그전 1위 최종선발전 진출
    나. 최종 선발전 : 풀리그전 2회(최종 1차, 최종 2차), 7게임제
    ① 최종 1차전 순위 및 최종 2차전 순위 성적에 의한 상위 선수 1명 선발
    ② 동순위자 발생 시 승자승에 따라 순위 결정
    ③ 승자승으로 순위가 결정되지 않을 경우 득실 공방율을 적용하여 순위 결정
    다. 리그전 순서 배정방법
    - 1차 선발전 : 21년 1월 세계랭킹 순위에 의함
    - 최종 1차전 : 21년 1월 세계랭킹 순위에 의함
    - 최종 2차전 : 최종 1차전 성적 순위에 의함

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    Again, they changed the schedule without notice. The bulletin board system is broken. They made an update to the original bulletin but then decided to make another bulletin for the update. What a mess.

    2021/01/29
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    Results for Day 1

    Men


    Jeoung Youngsik 4:0 Lin Jonghoon
    Jeoung Youngsik 4:2 Cho Daeseong
    Lee Sangsu 4:3 Cho Daeseong
    An Jaehyun 4:0 Lee Sangsu
    Lim Jonghoon 4:3 An Jaehyun
    Cho Daeseong 4:0 An Jaehyun


    Currently, Jeoung Youngsik leads with 2W0L, followed by Lee Sangsu/Lim Jonghoon 1W1L, and An Jaehyun/Cho Daeseong 1W2L

    Women


    Choi Hyojoo 4:2 Lee Zion
    Choi Hyojoo 4:0 Lee Eunhye
    Shin Yubin 4:1 Choi Hyojoo
    Shin Yubin 4:0 Lee Eunhye
    Lee Zion 4:2 Shin Yubin
    Lee Zion 4:2 Yang Haeun
    Lee Eunhye 4:3 Suh Hyowon
    Yang Haeun 4:2 Suh Hyowon


    Currently, Choi Hyojoo/Shin Yubin/Lee Zion lead with 2W1L、followed by Yang Haeun with 1W1L、Lee Eunhye 1W2L、and Suh Hyowon comes in last with 2L

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    An Jaehyun vs Lee Sangsu
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    This shows once again why China actively avoids internal trials for something as important as the Olympics. The only known instance was for the 2nd spot of men's doubles for Athens 2004, as they really couldn't decide between MLin/CQ and WLQ/Yan Sen(MD gold medalists of Sydney 2000 and MD Champions of WTTC 2003). KLH/WH were the MD Runner-up of WTTC 2003(and MD Champions of WTTC 2005) and Yan Sen had a car accident that broke his playing wrist just several months ahead of Athens 2004. In the end, the pair of KLH/WH lost to Waldner/Persson.

    Not even Japan uses them, for good reason, as they know Ishikawa and sidekick Kato WILL crash the party.
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    Current Korean national team players are the most inconsistent ones I have ever seen, not like I call them they play bad, they play good and they are talented but just cannot keep up and make a consistent streak in both local and international competitions. One tourney, Jeoung Youngsik shines, anothrr day An Jaehyun, Jang Woojin was the latest player that shined in World Tour Finals.Lee Sangsu was WR.7 2 years ago. But neither of them were simultaneously better. What is the problem?
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    1st Leg Ranking
    ❶Lee Sangsu (3W1L) ❷Jeoung Youngsik (2W2L*) ❸An Jaehyun (2W2L*) ❹Lim Jonghoon (2W2L*) ❺Cho Daeseong (1W3L)

    *decided by the micro-scores (points won/lost)



    Women

    1st Leg Ranking
    ❶Lee Zion?! (4W1L) ❷Shin Yubin (4W1L – only loss to Lee Zion) ❸Choi Hyojoo (2W3L*) ❹Yang Haeun (2W3L*) ❺Lee Eunhye (2W3L*) ❻Suh Hyowon (1W4L)

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    Nevermind that they haven't played in any major tournaments in the past 4 years, let's allow one tournament to decide the fate of your career while simultaneously wipping out all the good results you've attained with your hard work!

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    They did limit participation to those that have played in major tournaments in the past 3 years.
    ■ Outline of the selection of national teams dispatched to the 2020 Tokyo Olympics
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    3. Selection of Participants
    A. 1st Selection
    1) Target Participants
    1 National team dispatched to the 2018, 2019 World Table Tennis Championships individual/team events
    2 National team dispatched to the 2018 Jakarta-Palembang Asian Games
    3 National team dispatched to the 2019 Asian Table Tennis Championships

    2) Detailed List of Players
    Men's
    1 Cho Daeseong WR141
    2 Park Ganghyeon WR146
    3 Kim Minhyeok WR230
    4 Kim Donghyun WR354

    Women's
    1 Yang Haeun WR81
    2 Yoo Eunchong WR162[Note: Incorrectly listed as WR127 in the original document]
    3 Kim Jiho WR465

    B. Final selection
    1) Target Participants
    1 National team dispatched to the 2020 World Table Tennis Championships and the Tokyo Olympic Qualifiers
    2 1st place in the 1st selection

    2) Detailed List of Players
    Men's
    1 Jeoung Youngsik WR13
    2 Lee Sangsu WR22
    3 An Jaehyun WR39
    4 Lim Jonghoon WR71
    5 1st place in 1st selection(Cho Daeseong)

    Women's
    1 Suh Hyowon WR21
    2 Choi Hyojoo WR64
    3 Shin Yubin WR94
    4 Lee Zion WR106
    5 Lee Eunhye WR127
    6 1st place in 1st selection(Yang Haeun)

    4. Format of Competition and Method of Ranking
    A. 1st selection: single round robin, best of 7
    1 The first-placed player of the round robin advances to the final selection

    B. Final selection: double round robin(final selection 1, final selection 2), best of 7
    1 Select one top player based on the results of final selection 1 and final selection 2
    2 In case of a tie, the ranking is determined by the winner's wins.
    3 If the ranking is not determined by the winner's wins, the ranking will be determined by applying the gain-loss offense-defense ratio

    C. Allocation of Round Robin Order
    - 1st selection: According to the world rankings in Jan, 2021
    - Final selection 1: According to the world rankings in Jan, 2021
    - Final selection 2: According to the results of final selection 1
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    What happened to Jang Woojin? Automatic spot?

    EDIT: Just saw it sorry.
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