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    Handle, Wings and Grip

    I am not sure if anyone feels the same as me, but I love the feel of Innerforce Layer Series blades but their handle, wings and grip is not so good for my taste. I feel that it is thin and I couldn't get a proper grip, which I get with a Viscaria or ZJK series.

    Apolonia and Harimoto also have thin handles.

    I really hope Butterfly considers it while making Dima and Franziska blades.



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    Yeah, especially the innerforce.alc.s its really whimpy. The one grip I like is Tibhar Akkad. A choice of grip size would be nice...

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    ST handle of the innerforce blades are still okayish,
    FL versions are not for big hands like mine

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    You mean you don't like TT blades with handles the size of popsicle sticks made for the tiny hands of children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl
    You mean you don't like TT blades with handles the size of popsicle sticks made for the tiny hands of children?
    precisely

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    not only for butterfly blades, this happened with me with Septear as well

    Blade feel is amazing, and the handle is literally for kids.

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    Nittaku have their LG handle option on some of their blades, this is a nice option to have!!
    I have 2 Acoustic blades with the large handle, but there is still some manufacturing tolerances, 1 is slightly thinner than the other, by a small margin, but was still noticeable!! Did it make any difference? Not really!!
    For my hand size, the length could be a little longer, maybe 5mm.
    would this improve my play ????

    it would be nice if other manufacturers offered a larger handle option as well as the different shaped handles!!

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    If only there were custom blade makers out there that could make bigger handles... 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by chintanmashroo
    I am not sure if anyone feels the same as me, but I love the feel of Innerforce Layer Series blades but their handle, wings and grip is not so good for my taste. I feel that it is thin and I couldn't get a proper grip, which I get with a Viscaria or ZJK series.Apolonia and Harimoto also have thin handles.I really hope Butterfly considers it while making Dima and Franziska blades.Sent from my ONEPLUS A6010 using Tapatalk
    Yea, I also enjoy the Innerforce blades but much prefer the FL size and shape of the Viscaria and ZJK's.

    Unfortunately, the Franziska's handle is listed at 100 x 24 x 34 mm so it's going to be small.

    The Ovtcharov's looks more promising at 100 x 25 x 34 mm with a bit of a wavy neck (not nearly as wavy at the Viscaria's and ZJK's though), but the middle and bottom appear to be fatter than the Harimoro ALC's handle (let us hope!), if not it'll end up the same as the Harimoto's handle and therefore be on the thin side. We shall see!
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    Try Omar Assar FL XL if you like big handles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hipnotic
    If only there were custom blade makers out there that could make bigger handles...
    no offense to custom blades when I say this,
    there is a certain crisp feeling with Butterfly blades that I love.
    Also, many custom blade makers when asked for a Viscaria like or ZJK like handle ask for dimensions;
    I have also tried doing that, still a bummer. Maybe I wasn't clear enough for the blade maker that I needed the blade to fit my hands just like a Viscaria does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IB66
    Nittaku have their LG handle option on some of their blades, this is a nice option to have!!
    I have 2 Acoustic blades with the large handle, but there is still some manufacturing tolerances, 1 is slightly thinner than the other, by a small margin, but was still noticeable!! Did it make any difference? Not really!!
    For my hand size, the length could be a little longer, maybe 5mm.
    would this improve my play ????

    it would be nice if other manufacturers offered a larger handle option as well as the different shaped handles!!
    Acoustic is no wonder an amazing blade, I have tried the all wood as well as the Acoustic Inner, both LG handles;

    The feeling is different. Septear feels like a creamy layer on top of an ice-cream, as smooth like a butter. Whereas the Acoustic feels like the cone itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas.pong
    Yea, I also enjoy the Innerforce blades but much prefer the FL size and shape of the Viscaria and ZJK's.

    Unfortunately, the Franziska's handle is listed at 100 x 24 x 34 mm so it's going to be small.

    The Ovtcharov's looks more promising at 100 x 25 x 34 mm with a bit of a wavy neck (not nearly as wavy at the Viscaria's and ZJK's though), but the middle and bottom appear to be fatter than the Harimoro ALC's handle (let us hope!), if not it'll end up the same as the Harimoto's handle and therefore be on the thin side. We shall see!
    yes, I have an eye on Dima blade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by windysummer1
    Try Omar Assar FL XL if you like big handles.
    Unfortunately, not available in India,
    I can understand the reason that Butterfly gives good rates to the distributor only when ordered in Bulk.
    Omar Assar blade wont sell that much here as a Viscaria or Boll ALC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chintanmashroo
    no offense to custom blades when I say this,
    there is a certain crisp feeling with Butterfly blades that I love.
    Also, many custom blade makers when asked for a Viscaria like or ZJK like handle ask for dimensions;
    I have also tried doing that, still a bummer. Maybe I wasn't clear enough for the blade maker that I needed the blade to fit my hands just like a Viscaria does.

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    Agreed. I will say that the OSP FL handle feels very similar to a Viscaria handle in hand though and has a very similar fat wavy neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by windysummer1
    Try Omar Assar FL XL if you like big handles.
    The regular Ossar FL handle is already large like a Viscaria, the XL is even larger like Andro blades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chintanmashroo
    Acoustic is no wonder an amazing blade, I have tried the all wood as well as the Acoustic Inner, both LG handles;

    The feeling is different. Septear feels like a creamy layer on top of an ice-cream, as smooth like a butter. Whereas the Acoustic feels like the cone itself.

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    The Acoustics are all amazing blades for sure, but even the FL LG handle is on the thin side.

    I'll have to give the Septear a try one of these days.

    Have you experimented with grip tape at all? I haven't yet but intend to on my Innerforce FL handles and other ST handles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chintanmashroo
    Unfortunately, not available in India,
    I can understand the reason that Butterfly gives good rates to the distributor only when ordered in Bulk.
    Omar Assar blade wont sell that much here as a Viscaria or Boll ALC.

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    If you want to buy one, I could arrange to send it to you from France to India.
    I've bought a blade from you before (first version Innerforce ALC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chintanmashroo
    no offense to custom blades when I say this,
    there is a certain crisp feeling with Butterfly blades that I love.
    Also, many custom blade makers when asked for a Viscaria like or ZJK like handle ask for dimensions;
    I have also tried doing that, still a bummer. Maybe I wasn't clear enough for the blade maker that I needed the blade to fit my hands just like a Viscaria does.

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    No offense to you, but maybe you haven't tried good blade makers. I'm not trying to sell anything, but I don't think it's fair to give all custom blade makers a bad rep just because you had a bad experience. I'm also not claiming that my blades are better than Butterfly's, they are different, but they are still good. Also, I had so much requests for a Viscaria type handle that I've gotten pretty good at it. Not that I like it very much, I still think it's a small handle.

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    It seems that you took it personally.
    I have loved so many of your blades and commended them as well.

    I didn't say that custom blade makers are bad or generalized anything; I mentioned that there is something from Butterfly blades that I love


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