Virtual Reality | ELEVEN Table Tennis

I spent all my childhood playing All Star Tennis for Nintendo - it was my favourite game and the reason to start playing in reality with my friends) Absolutelly amazing how game industry have changed from these times. After seeing this video I`m going to buy Quest 2 too)
Also - I still play All Star Tennis sometimes using emulator. If you wanna some nostalgia - you can download the game here https://romsplanet.com/ Anyway - this simulator is the best tennis game I`ve ever seen! Need to get myself one.

Ben Krekel said:

I’m getting ready to pick up the Oculus Quest 2 tomorrow and am excited to get back to the table, even if it is a virtual one. Between taking care of a 3 month old baby and all my local clubs shutting down, I haven’t been able to play in 5 months.

That being said, I have 2 questions. For the internal settings, has anyone played with them enough to figure out how to make them simulate specific rubbers? I played with a combo of Tenergy 05 and 05FX last and I would love to get something that feels as close to that as possible.

And I know the game doesn’t feel quite right if you don’t have a controller paddle handle converter. Has anyone out there made one out of a cheap paddle so they have the feeling of real wood in their hands? Or are all of them 3D printed and it’s not worth crafting myself?

I’m super excited to get the chance to play again.

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That's awesome that you get your Quest tomorrow. You are going to love the game. There are many other players that use Tenergy rubbers playing Eleven, so you definitely be able to get assistance setting up your rubbers in the game. Regarding adaptors made out of wood, there are a couple examples in the other thread on here regarding Eleven Virtual Reality something EU. Right now its second from the top...

• The way I normally serves (e.g. like Ma Long's serve) becomes tricky without any handle adapter. Hooking serve is more natural - good for me to pick up a new serve!
• Forehand becomes easier because it's easy and natural to keep the racket angle stable throughout the stroke - something I struggled to do in real life.
• Backend, especially counter top spin, is tricky because it's difficult to close the racket angle with the controller. I used to close the racket angle with my thumb/wrist in real life, but with the controller I find it easier to use the forearm instead (something like what Jun Mizutani does).
• Fast exchanges are difficult probably due to multiple factors, making it easier to stay a little bit away from the table and swing a little bit slower:
  • Low refresh rate (120Hz should help, haven't tried though)
  • High network latency (unless you're lucky to find an opponent closer to you geographically)
  • Slow controller tracking

I'd be interested to hear how it's affected your IRL table tennis and if it's possibly let you pick up some habits.

J Bus said:

I'd be interested to hear how it's affected your IRL table tennis and if it's possibly let you pick up some habits.

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It depends on your style and how well it translates to the game mechanics/controllers.

For instance, spin in the VR is less effective than in real life. I play a spin based style, so it doesn't feel as useful to me. The angles required to return the balls are much less precise, and even without knowing the spin or amount on the ball, people can return different types more often.

Serving is nowhere near as crucial in the VR. Once again, the spin isn't realistic so less accuracy or reading of it is needed.

Basically, all the spins and everything from real life work... they're just toned down some. Reason being, I'd imagine the idea is to cater toward most users who would buy the game and play for fun - not the top 10% of real players crossing over. It's still a blast to play, work on tactics and does translate over to real life. The real issue comes from if you use non-standard equipment (pips, anti).

In addition, another hurdle to overcome... in physical table tennis, you can adjust your grip pressure to heavily influence the speed/return of the ball. The VR is not yet capable of registering that sort of input. So, whereas IRL if someone sends a fast shot over, you can relax/loosen the grip to absorb the power. In VR the rebound effect stays the same, regardless. If you are using a bouncy rubber setting, it works great off the table... but up close it can send back a rapid ball that overshoots the table.

PushSmasher said:

Truer words have never been spoken... [emoji2] My friend yesterday ran into his kitchen island going for a shot in a tournament.
Here it is...

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Yeah, but The normal game only drops to 70 spin

LordPippington said:

Have you tried out the ping ball? I had the same problem with bad connections, but after using the ping ball... I can play people with 1 red bar or around 200 ms and still have a fairly clean game going.

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Yeah I have! I think the Ping ball is a great idea and works pretty well most of the time. I haven't been game enough to play people with less than 3 bars with it but I might have to give it a shot.

J Bus said:

I'd be interested to hear how it's affected your IRL table tennis and if it's possibly let you pick up some habits.

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I've been playing Eleven for about 3 months now, and it has both helped and hurt different aspects of my real life game. I initially got it to be able to train and improve my actual game, but being a combination bat player (long pips on one side), what I can actually train has been very limited. In fact, I personally think it might be best for any short or long pimple players to wait until those options are available, or it might mess up your game. I wanted to train shot sequences and combinations, but not having long pips, I have to actually play differently then how I do in real life, so that's not really a good thing. Having said that, it is possible to create a long pimple rubber to practice with, but it is in the Beta version where you can only train with a robot or AI opponent. Despite that, it's been a lot of fun.