Hybrid rubbers how close to Tacky Chinese or Grippy ESN spring sponge?

I have only played with D09c and Rakza Z from your list. To me, Rakza Z felt soft and bouncy. Good, but very similar to other ESN products. I would consider Rakza Z as a backhand rubber. The hardness of D09c makes it a lot more similar to Chinese tacky rubber imo.

Originally Posted by SamTheMan

I have only played with D09c and Rakza Z from your list. To me, Rakza Z felt soft and bouncy. Good, but very similar to other ESN products. I would consider Rakza Z as a backhand rubber. The hardness of D09c makes it a lot more similar to Chinese tacky rubber imo.

Hi Sam,

I can see where you are coming from!!!

I thought Rakza Z had more tackiness and slightly less bounce. Any tackiness wears off pretty quick with both, but my sheets of Rakza Z had a longer lasting tackiness.
The D09C I used to have had the 1.9mm sponge, having just tried T05 / T19 In 1.9mm as well I thought the top sheets had a similar hardness, maybe D09C was a tad softer than T05 / T19. All 3 are probably harder than Rakza Z,
Theres also ‘straight out of the package’ feeling and characteristics and ‘played in’ feeling and characteristics to take into account !!! So it’s not a straight forward list as to where certain rubbers should sit within the list !! It would be easy to swap rubbers around!! And looking at the list Rakza Z is probably a little too close to the CTR end, it could easily be next to D09C !!

Originally Posted by yogi_bear

Omega 7 China Guang and Ying. There are other brands releasing their tacky rubbers this year.

Hi Yogi,

O7 China Guang and Ying, haven’t tried them so would they be up there with Bluegrip C2 ??
let me know and I’ll add them in.

cheers.

Originally Posted by yogi_bear

They are similar only that the O7c series was ahead in the market by almost a year.

Cheers Yogi 😀
I’ll put them in front of the Bluegrips for now.

Would you consider DHS Skyline 3-60 or Hurricane 3-50 in this category?

Or are those sponges not springy enough?


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Originally Posted by yogi_bear

nope they are inferior if compared to euro sponges unless boosted.

Yeah, i agree with that, H8 is another that is similar. sponge just doesn't do it!!

Nittaku Hurricane Pro III Turbo Blue
Nittaku Hurricane Pro III Turbo Orange
Nittaku Sieger PK50
Victas Triple Regular (42.5°)
Victas Triple Extra (55° japan standard)
Victas Triple Double Extra (57.5°)

The Victas series is named from the TSP Triple series tacky rubbers, but the blue sponge is a new Victas made, and the topsheet is made in China.

Originally Posted by Music&Ping

Nittaku Hurricane Pro III Turbo Blue
Nittaku Hurricane Pro III Turbo Orange
Nittaku Sieger PK50
Victas Triple Regular (42.5°)
Victas Triple Extra (55° japan standard)
Victas Triple Double Extra (57.5°)

The Victas series is named from the TSP Triple series tacky rubbers, but the blue sponge is a new Victas made, and the topsheet is made in China.

I gave the Nittaku Hurricane Pro 3 Turbo orange a try and it was different to Std H3, but was still pretty 'dead' feeling, No experience with the Turbo Blue, i would probably put the pair of them with likes of H3-50/H3-60 etc?? Sponge not enough ESN/Spring sponge qualities ??

Has the Victas / TSP merge gone through completely?

So the Victas 'Triple' series, is this a totally new top sheet and new sponge? or retaining old TSP Triple series top sheet? is it available??

cheers,

Originally Posted by Suga D

This Triple series seems to be made with a new recipe. It´s the most tackiest I´ve ever seen. Gonna try it soon.Is VICTAS TRIPLE DOUBLE EXTRA tacky? - YouTube

I think TT11 have all 3 versions.😀!!

Originally Posted by Suga D

This Triple series seems to be made with a new recipe. It´s the most tackiest I´ve ever seen. Gonna try it soon.Is VICTAS TRIPLE DOUBLE EXTRA tacky? - YouTube

Just watched the video clip, if that’s how tacky it is, hopefully combined with a good hard springy sponge, I just gotta get me some!!!😀🤪​​​​​​​

Originally Posted by IB66

No experience with the Turbo Blue, i would probably put the pair of them with likes of H3-50/H3-60 etc??

No, Nittaku Hurricane Turbo Blue has to go next to Tau II. It has been very positively reviewed by Patrick on the TT11 blog. One of the rubbers I will deffo try once we're allowed to play again. The organge one is softer.

Originally Posted by MK73

No, Nittaku Hurricane Turbo Blue has to go next to Tau II. It has been very positively reviewed by Patrick on the TT11 blog. One of the rubbers I will deffo try once we're allowed to play again. The organge one is softer.

OK i'll slot them in!!

Originally Posted by Music&Ping

Nittaku Hurricane Pro III Turbo Blue
Nittaku Hurricane Pro III Turbo Orange
Nittaku Sieger PK50
Victas Triple Regular (42.5°)
Victas Triple Extra (55° japan standard)
Victas Triple Double Extra (57.5°)

The Victas series is named from the TSP Triple series tacky rubbers, but the blue sponge is a new Victas made, and the topsheet is made in China.

TT11 quote the Triple Regular as having a 'less tacky' top sheet, could it be the original TSP Triple series top sheet?? possibly with original sponge??? with the 'new' Triple Extra and Triple Double Extra having the new 'recipe' top sheet and sponge??

KTL rapid speed is hybrid (and cheap) , the sponge is like european rubber but the topsheet is tacky!