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    Who is a "normal player" in table-tennis ?

    I have played at home a bit but I decided to check out a club.
    I played a couple of players and then when I played this guy , he asked me to show him my racket. I was kind of confused as to why but to be friendly I showed him anyway. He kind of laughed and said Oh Ok you are not using normal rubber ? I asked him what he meant .
    He said I was using something called HardBat or something and said it was not a normal rubber. I got to taking to him and he said I should switch to normal rubber & be a normal player. I asked him if he meant the new rackets that had some foam was normal rubber he said. He said Kind of but not completely. He said only racket like his where the top of rubber was smooth and also had a foam backing , was accepted as normal. So I asked him if my racket was ok to use. He said yes but you are not considered a normal player.. I asked him where he bought his racket and he said from mail-order and I asked him how much he paid & he said he bought the blade ( I heard it was the wood part & rubbers separately. He said the wood part cost about $400 as it was used by some Chinese Olympic Champion and rubbers cost about $90 each side.
    We played a match & I do not want to embarrass anyone so I won't say the result

    Lot of things I did not understand. Especially being called a not normal player. From what I understood the racket I had was the only one used before in old days. So I was wondering why I am no longer considered "normal" ?

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    Typically almost every professional now uses two sides inverted (it's called inverted because rubbers used to have the pimples out).

    And all pros since the 60s use sponge.

    Because of this and that it's actually quite easy to play with sponge and two sides inverted with good shots from angles you cannot hit from on a hard bat it's now the most normal set u

    So you are a hard bat player. It's not normal but there is not an issue with it. It affects how you play and how he should play heavily from a tactics standpoint but it's completely fine and don't let anyone tell you otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifun_Wong
    I have played at home a bit but I decided to check out a club.
    I played a couple of players and then when I played this guy , he asked me to show him my racket. I was kind of confused as to why but to be friendly I showed him anyway. He kind of laughed and said Oh Ok you are not using normal rubber ? I asked him what he meant .
    He said I was using something called HardBat or something and said it was not a normal rubber. I got to taking to him and he said I should switch to normal rubber & be a normal player. I asked him if he meant the new rackets that had some foam was normal rubber he said. He said Kind of but not completely. He said only racket like his where the top of rubber was smooth and also had a foam backing , was accepted as normal. So I asked him if my racket was ok to use. He said yes but you are not considered a normal player.. I asked him where he bought his racket and he said from mail-order and I asked him how much he paid & he said he bought the blade ( I heard it was the wood part & rubbers separately. He said the wood part cost about $400 as it was used by some Chinese Olympic Champion and rubbers cost about $90 each side.
    We played a match & I do not want to embarrass anyone so I won't say the result

    Lot of things I did not understand. Especially being called a not normal player. From what I understood the racket I had was the only one used before in old days. So I was wondering why I am no longer considered "normal" ?

    there is NO THING called normal. Do not let anybody intimidate you. Play with what you are comfortable with that is always a good start.
    If you feel like experimenting with other blades and other rubbers and find that this can improve your game (after a time of adjustment) that will be ok too.

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    To clarify, you can get a very good blade for under $30, and good (inverted) rubbers for under $15/side. See for example colestt.com, princett.com, tabletennis11.com, etc.
    I would not play hard bat as a beginner, as you loose a lot of fun using spin in addition to speed.
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    #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifun_Wong
    I have played at home a bit but I decided to check out a club.
    I played a couple of players and then when I played this guy , he asked me to show him my racket. I was kind of confused as to why but to be friendly I showed him anyway. He kind of laughed and said Oh Ok you are not using normal rubber ? I asked him what he meant .
    He said I was using something called HardBat or something and said it was not a normal rubber. I got to taking to him and he said I should switch to normal rubber & be a normal player. I asked him if he meant the new rackets that had some foam was normal rubber he said. He said Kind of but not completely. He said only racket like his where the top of rubber was smooth and also had a foam backing , was accepted as normal. So I asked him if my racket was ok to use. He said yes but you are not considered a normal player.. I asked him where he bought his racket and he said from mail-order and I asked him how much he paid & he said he bought the blade ( I heard it was the wood part & rubbers separately. He said the wood part cost about $400 as it was used by some Chinese Olympic Champion and rubbers cost about $90 each side.
    We played a match & I do not want to embarrass anyone so I won't say the result

    Lot of things I did not understand. Especially being called a not normal player. From what I understood the racket I had was the only one used before in old days. So I was wondering why I am no longer considered "normal" ?

    Hi Gifun_Wong
    if you are playing with a Hardbat that is perfectly legal.
    if the rubbers on each side are different colors. But the color rule will only matter if you play tournaments
    In any case play with what you are comfortable with. Changing to a modern setup will involve a lot of changes in your technique and may well hinder your enjoyment.
    There are still players using your kind of equipment in tournaments with some success.
    Stick with it and have fun!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifun_Wong
    I have played at home a bit but I decided to check out a club.
    I played a couple of players and then when I played this guy , he asked me to show him my racket. I was kind of confused as to why but to be friendly I showed him anyway. He kind of laughed and said Oh Ok you are not using normal rubber ? I asked him what he meant .
    He said I was using something called HardBat or something and said it was not a normal rubber. I got to taking to him and he said I should switch to normal rubber & be a normal player. I asked him if he meant the new rackets that had some foam was normal rubber he said. He said Kind of but not completely. He said only racket like his where the top of rubber was smooth and also had a foam backing , was accepted as normal. So I asked him if my racket was ok to use. He said yes but you are not considered a normal player.. I asked him where he bought his racket and he said from mail-order and I asked him how much he paid & he said he bought the blade ( I heard it was the wood part & rubbers separately. He said the wood part cost about $400 as it was used by some Chinese Olympic Champion and rubbers cost about $90 each side.
    We played a match & I do not want to embarrass anyone so I won't say the result

    Lot of things I did not understand. Especially being called a not normal player. From what I understood the racket I had was the only one used before in old days. So I was wondering why I am no longer considered "normal" ?

    A normal player is a right handed shakehand grip player playing with two side inverted rubber. Anything else is abnormal and should consult a psychiatric to check you out.

    p/s If you are too serious about my post and cannot get the parody, you also need a psychiatric to check you out.

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    There are some rules here and I see they are brutally neglected.

    The right and only definition for a "normal player" is "a player with a Butterfly set up".

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    Everyone who plays tabletennis should be considered a normal player.

    Important thing for 99,5% is fun. It does not matter if your Racket is 25 Dollar / Euro / whatever currency or 250.

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    Hardbat only means there is no sponge underneath the rubber. There are also rackets with pimples out like yours, but with sponge underneath the pimples. These are called short pips.

    It's normal for people to ask about your racket because it plays very differently from "normal" rubber. But anyone who makes negative comments is doing so only out of fear. Have no regard for them.

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    I think another point which should be made is that in table tennis there is a standard set of techniques which most competitive players use, and this has been the case since at least the 1970's (I learned push, drive, topspin, block, tomahawk serve, etc., then). E.g., see this link. So if you decide to play differently you hamper your competitive progress. What this means in a club is that you may have a hard time finding someone to play with you because it's a lot more fun to play against someone who can keep the ball in play and has roughly the same strength playing. So I would learn the standard techniques from a coach or start watching the beginner's playlist at YangYang TT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ejprinz
    I think another point which should be made is that in table tennis there is a standard set of techniques which most competitive players use, and this has been the case since at least the 1970's (I learned push, drive, topspin, block, tomahawk serve, etc., then). E.g., see this link. So if you decide to play differently you hamper your competitive progress. What this means in a club is that you may have a hard time finding someone to play with you because it's a lot more fun to play against someone who can keep the ball in play and has roughly the same strength playing. So I would learn the standard techniques from a coach or start watching the beginner's playlist at YangYang TT.


    not sure about the "hampering of the progress"
    I see a lot of good players hammering at one another with their topspin- forehand shots and while it looks great, they get surprised
    by a push and always have to inspect their rackets afterwards wondering why the last shot went into the net 🤣


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