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    Regional Div 1 defeats KJH in his trip

    Here is a vid where KJH spots 6 points to a good Regional Div 1 player and pays the price. Usually, Regional Div 1 do not have these rally and block variation skills. KJH compliments dude on his SERVE after match.

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    KJH interviews dude and dude is 16. Dude says his goal is Open Div 2 level, which means he needs to defeat KJH with only a 4 pt handicap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Echte
    KJH interviews dude and dude is 16. Dude says his goal is Open Div 2 level, which means he needs to defeat KJH with only a 4 pt handicap.

    Hi Der,

    Another great set of videos!! Enjoying them all!!

    In order to get promotion up the Divisions, how do they work out if you can be promoted up? You mentioned that the Dude would have to defeat KJH with only a 4 point handicap to get to Open Div 2, How does the Dude get a 4 point handicap? by playing other matches throughout the season? Would he also have to defeat other players of KJH’s standard with the 4 point handicap to get to ODiv2?


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    Quote Originally Posted by IB66

    Hi Der,

    Another great set of videos!! Enjoying them all!!

    In order to get promotion up the Divisions, how do they work out if you can be promoted up? You mentioned that the Dude would have to defeat KJH with only a 4 point handicap to get to Open Div 2, How does the Dude get a 4 point handicap? by playing other matches throughout the season? Would he also have to defeat other players of KJH’s standard with the 4 point handicap to get to ODiv2?

    Hi IB66,

    In general, you have to win a city, regional, or national level tourney (or reach finals) in order to get automatic promotion, but that is just for that city or region or national tourney. Eventually, enough enemy coaches and players beach to the tourney organizors enough that you will get forced to be moved up in the classification.

    I NEVER EVER won any city, regional, or national tourneys, yet I ended up moving up from Div 5 regional to Div 2 regional in 2 years. Your club coach can simply register you in ahugher divisiona dn it might stick with you. No one really complains about that, because players in higher divisions like SOFT TARGETS for an easy time to advance out of group stage.

    Conversely, if you had a few years break, r were injurred badly, coach can have reason to register you in a tourney at a lower level if the coach has a good explanation.

    What KJH was saying to the kid is the general rule of thumb for saying for sure someone is at a certain playing level. He was right, a natl Div 2 would require a 4 pt handicap, so if a dude could defeat KJH with a 4 pt handicap, then that player shoud be able to perform at a Div 2 national level.

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    Hi Der,

    As far as clubs are concerned, I would imagine there are older and younger clubs, some with ‘History’ behind them etc.
    Are there clubs that have some kudos behind them, ones that are considered to be ‘the’ club to play for in a city or region?? Are there ‘grudge’ matches, sort of historical rivalries like Arsenal v Tottenham, a London (football/soccer) derby.
    Also, it seems every club has a coach, is this a requirement or necessity? Over here it’s only the larger clubs that have coaches, sure some smaller clubs have an occasional coach, but usually because a club member has decided to take a coaches badge qualification.
    From what I’ve seen on the vids you have posted the facilities look pretty good as well. Do the clubs get sponsored?

    cheers,

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    All clubs in Korea are privately owned operations, usually from a former pro or high level amateur.

    You do not have the big rivalry thing going on much, but here and there, one club is better than others at stacking ringers for team event in tourneys, so some clubs get haten on more than others.

    Most Korean clubs are in facilities that cost as little as owner can aford, newer clubs are usually opened by a player with more funds borrowed, but there is a big price squeeze always, Seoul and many Korean cities are expensive to lease facilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Echte
    All clubs in Korea are privately owned operations, usually from a former pro or high level amateur.

    You do not have the big rivalry thing going on much, but here and there, one club is better than others at stacking ringers for team event in tourneys, so some clubs get haten on more than others.

    Most Korean clubs are in facilities that cost as little as owner can aford, newer clubs are usually opened by a player with more funds borrowed, but there is a big price squeeze always, Seoul and many Korean cities are expensive to lease facilities.
    Is the cost of membership generally high? is it related to the cost of facilities Profile of the Coach/Player owner, that sort of thing? Or are membership costs similar between the different clubs, give or take!!

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    Of course membership rates will vary club by club, but this is a typical breakdown of membership costs for a modernish TTC club run by an ex-pro.

    70 USD is an average price for monthly membership that allows you to play every day and club is open 7 days a week for 12 hours.

    160-180 USD is average price of club memebrship that includes 8 each 20 minute lessons for the month

    50 USD is an average price for a "One Point" one on one private lesson with coach

    Kim Taek Soo's club south of seul runs 90 USD a month for basic memebrship and another 110 USD additional cost for 8 lessons of 20 min, so that is 200 USD a month for basic memebrship and 8 lessons of 20 min each for the month. Not bad at all.

    Most clubs are not so modern and have only 2 tables for coaches to give lessons and only 4 tables for members... more newer clubs by more recent pros invest more money and have more modern looking facilities.

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    For comparison what’s the going rate in the US?

    There is a club I’m looking into here that charges £150 / yr, or £15 / month in monthly payment plan, so £180 / yr, This is just for Mon, Wed & Fri evenings 7 - 10pm. Coaching sessions are extra. Depending on the coach, £30 - £50 per hr. If you play matches then there are match fees as well.

    This is for one of the larger clubs with their own hall, if you’ve watched some of the TTD team matches from a year or so ago, I’m pretty sure their venue was used for some or a lot of the match days.

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    When SITTA was running in Sacramento, you paid $50 a month to play every day and gym was open 11 hrs a day every day. This was a facility with flooring and 25 tables. Decent gyms in more high priced areas are gunna be a litttle more expensive.

    Coaching runs between $30 - $90 USD an hour depending on some things.
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