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    Rubber catapult ranking

    Rank rubbers you've tried based on catapult strength, from 'strongest catapult effect' through to 'most linear' .

    I'll put in a few of my impressions to get the ball rolling - though, of course, how these felt to me will have been influenced by the blade I used them on. Nevertheless, here goes ...

    XIOM Omega V Tour
    Andro Hexer Powergrip
    Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 48
    Stiga DNA Pro H / M
    Nittaku Fastarc G1
    XIOM Omega V Asia
    Stiga Genesis M
    DHS Hurricane 3 Neo

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    more insight if the rubbers would not only be ranked from top to bottom but also would have some
    classification, the top being 100 and then down to whatever...............

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    Add Yaskaka Anti and Globe 979 near the top of the list...

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    Of the rubbers I've used my list fastest to slowest:

    T05
    D05
    Vega X
    D09c
    Victas TDE
    H3 BS(boosted)
    Rakza 7
    Rakza Z
    H3N commercial(boosted)
    729 Super FX

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    Rakza7 faster than RakzaZ ?

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    Now several of these rubbers are a bit inconsistent in weight. It's mostly the DHS H3 series that I've used over the years that differ in weight, and I found out for example that a lighter H3N 41deg often is more lively than a heavier one. I guess it's the same in many other Chinese rubbers. Yinhe Big Dipper varies from 45-53 grams cut among the sheets I got, and they can feel quite different to each other as well. Lower weight gives a more bouncy Big Dipper. All my DHS rubbers are "Commercial" versions. Of course, all comes down to my play style...

    Andro Rasanter R53, Max
    Stiga DNA H, 2.1mm
    729 Battle II Provincial Gold, 2.15mm, H40
    729 Battle II Provincial, 2.1mm, H40
    DHS Hurricane 3, 2.15mm, H41 (Boosted)
    DHS Hurricane 3, 2.2mm, H41 (Boosted)
    Xiom Tau II Max
    Yinhe Moon Pro Hard
    DHS Hurricane 2 NEO, 2.15mm, H39
    DHS Hurricane 8, 2.15mm, H40
    DHS Hurricane 3 NEO, 2.15mm, H40
    DHS Hurricane 3 NEO, 2.15mm, H41
    Yinhe Apollo 5 H36
    DHS Hurricane 3 NEO, 2.15mm, H39
    DHS Hurricane 3 NEO, 2.2mm, H39
    DHS Hurricane 3, 2.15mm, Hard
    DHS Hurricane 8, 2.15mm, H39
    LOKI Arthur Europe, Max
    Yinhe Big Dipper, 2.2mm, H40
    Loki N80, Max
    729 Focus III Snipe, 2.1mm, H46
    729 Presto Spin, 2.1mm, H44
    DHS GoldArc 8, H47.5
    DHS NEO Skyline TG2, 2.15mm, H39
    Nittaku Zieger PK50, 2.0mm
    Yinhe Big Dipper, 2.2mm, H39
    LOKI GTX Pro
    Yinhe Big Dipper, 2.2mm, H38
    Loki Arthur Asia, Max
    729 Bloom Speed, 2.2mm, H45
    Tuttle A55, Max
    TSP Ventus Soft, Max
    Palio HK1997 48-50deg 2.2mm
    Andro Hexer Grip SFX, 1.9mm
    729 Bloom Spin, 2.2mm, H45
    729 Focus III Snipe, 2.1mm, H44
    Andro Hexer Grip, 1.7mm
    Andro Rasanter R37, 2.0mm
    DHS Hurricane 3 NEO, 2.1mm, H38
    Palio Hadou 40+ 2.2mm 42-44deg
    TSP Ventus Soft, 1.8mm
    Yinhe Moon Pro Medium
    61 Second Lightning DS, 1.5mm, H36
    DHS Hurricane 3-50, 2.1mm, H37
    DHS TinArc 3, 2.1mm, H37
    Globe 999, 2.0mm, H40
    Yinhe Big Dipper IV, 2.2mm, H38
    61 Second Lightning DS LST, 2.0mm, H38
    729 Focus 1, 2.2mm, H42
    729 Focus III Snipe, 2.1mm, H42
    DHS TinArc 3, 2.0mm, H35
    729 Cream Transcend, 2.2mm, H42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazer
    Rakza7 faster than RakzaZ ?
    I’d say they are very close. My Rakza z sheets are very tacky so maybe that’s slowing them down a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayGhost
    Of the rubbers I've used my list fastest to slowest:

    T05
    D05
    Vega X
    D09c
    Victas TDE
    H3 BS(boosted)
    Rakza 7
    Rakza Z
    H3N commercial(boosted)
    729 Super FX

    Rakza Z Catapult? Most certainly not. Grip/tacky yeah a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaxa

    Rakza Z Catapult? Most certainly not. Grip/tacky yeah a lot!

    Rakza Z, as far as I’m concerned, has a sponge with higher catapult effect than most people think!!

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    Rakza Z, as far as I’m concerned, has a sponge with higher catapult effect than most people think!!

    Didn't feel any thing from catapult last Friday on a SDC homemade inner force blade with Rakza Z on my FH.
    Not sure if we gone keep this rubber, I need more training with blade and this rubber. We will see tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IB66

    Rakza Z, as far as I’m concerned, has a sponge with higher catapult effect than most people think!!

    Not necessarily high catapult but more than other hybrid rubbers. What irritated me more was the high trajectory which was not beneficial for my short game


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    Don’t get me wrong, Rakza Z (RZ) will still feel ‘deader’ than a non tacky ESN type grippy rubber.
    What I noticed was that away from the table, RZ was much easier to play with compared to say H3Neo or Battle 2, less effort needed to defend or loop a ball back. This was the sponge kicking in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caddy

    Not necessarily high catapult but more than other hybrid rubbers. What irritated me more was the high trajectory which was not beneficial for my short game

    I noticed the higher throw angle more away from the table!! As well as the catapult effect of the sponge.
    As far as short game was concerned, perhaps it suited my stroke type or I just adjusted to RZ’s characteristics well.


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    RZ I think is king of the hybrid rubbers at the moment. As a Hurricane user I couldn't adjust to the high throw on my FH. It makes a great BH though!

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    [h1]yinhe Mercury 2 9021 with MOXA[/h1]
    This rubber is probably tooo cheap for most of you professional players but i thought i mention it
    because i once bought a pair and could not handle it because the incoming balls were just bouncing away from me before i was able to do anything with them.
    If anybody has experience with these i would be curious to find where they would fit (if at all) into the ranking list

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayGhost
    Of the rubbers I've used my list fastest to slowest:

    T05
    D05
    Vega X
    D09c
    Victas TDE
    H3 BS(boosted)
    Rakza 7
    Rakza Z
    H3N commercial(boosted)
    729 Super FX

    RZ and R7 less catapult than H3 boosted? You must be boosting a hell lot! 5 layers?

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    Any thoughts on different catapult strengths within the category of Euro/Japanese style rubbers?
    For example, I found the XIOM Omega V Tour to have a very strong catapult - so much so that I was constantly hesitant in my shots and it was (for me) no fun to play with. By contrast, Fastarc G-1 has a much more linear feel which gives me greater confidence to really go for my shots and is (for me) much more fun to play with.


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    The above are just opinions.
    Catapult? How is that measured?
    You should be talking in terms of COR. There is also a tangential ( spin ) and normal ( speed ) COR.
    A rubber with a low spin to speed ratio would make it hard to loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenball
    The above are just opinions.
    Of course they are! That's why the start of this thread referred to "impressions" and how the catapult of the various rubbers "feel". And subjective impressions/opinions are not without value. If the majority of players share the opinion that, for example, rubber A has a stronger catapult effect than rubber B then that is helpful information for somebody considering whether they should buy rubber A or B. And that's really the point of these conversations isn't it? To help one another learn more than we could individually. And to have some fun debating subjective opinions along the way!

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    DELUSION NOT REALITY
    Clear-cut definition of "Catapulta" does not exist. It is some delusion of your tactile sense. This is the reason that CONTRA did remove the Katapult ratings from their BELAGE LIST..

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