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This user has no status.This user has no status.09-25-2021 1632579013 #1
VOC Free Vulcanizing Cement
I need to know if I can use in competition?
It's vulcanizing CEMENT not RUBBER sorry.The Following User Likes merlin el mago's Post:
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Last edited by merlin el mago; 09-25-2021 at 03:50 PM.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.09-25-2021 1632585282 #2
Please mods change the subject to:
VOC free vulcanizing cement
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says I like to hit Heavy Topspinsays I like to hit Heavy Topspin09-25-2021 1632587971 #3
Can you link to the product you are referring to, Merlin? Or, if you have the product, can you post photos of the label and whether there is a "Flammable Substance" warning on the container.
When I do a search for "VOC Free Vulcanizing Cement" or "Water Based Vulcanizing Cement" I only see products that have VOCs.Last edited by UpSideDownCarl; 09-25-2021 at 04:41 PM.
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says I like to hit Heavy Topspinsays I like to hit Heavy Topspin09-25-2021 1632589417 #5Setup 1: Blade by Nate: Vortex Spin Machine, FH Evolution MX-K, BH Evolution FX-P
Setup 2: OSP Virtuoso Plus, FH Rasanter R 48, BH Rasanter R 48
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This user has no status.This user has no status.09-25-2021 1632589666 #6
It's all in Japanese, it's CFC & VOC free confirmed with the local distibutor also don't have carcinogenic agents.
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says I like to hit Heavy Topspinsays I like to hit Heavy Topspin09-25-2021 1632589850 #7
If it does not have VOCs, if it really does not have them, then what would your reason for questioning whether you can use it in competition?
How long before the competition do you plan on gluing the rubbers onto your racket? If it is longer than 1 week, even VOC glue is fine. Because, within a week, the VOCs would have evaporated.Setup 1: Blade by Nate: Vortex Spin Machine, FH Evolution MX-K, BH Evolution FX-P
Setup 2: OSP Virtuoso Plus, FH Rasanter R 48, BH Rasanter R 48
Spin is Everything
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This user has no status.This user has no status.09-25-2021 1632591654 #8
I want to be sure before use it in competition, some people said all the speed glue is banned or must be ITTF approved, but the only rule that I know by ITTF is VOC free?
I didn't tried to use after 3 or 4 hours once glued.
Of course I use it with FFP2 & in a ventilated area to glue it, once glued played without mask and no problems.Last edited by merlin el mago; 09-25-2021 at 06:07 PM.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.09-25-2021 1632593130 #9No more political prisoners in Catalonia.
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says getting older means having to play smarter.says getting older means having to play smarter.09-25-2021 1632598629 #10
Trichloroethylene eh? Sounds like its straight up VOC rubber cement. If you freshly glued and the VOC has not completely evaporated and the competition you are in checks with thos high tech sniffing devices, you could be in trouble but if not most won't care. If you are gluing right before competition, then just go with a water based latex glue like most people do nowadays.
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says I like to hit Heavy Topspinsays I like to hit Heavy Topspin09-25-2021 1632603871 #11
Yep. If it is SPEED GLUE it is BANNED. That is Speed Glue. And the trichloroethylene is, for sure, something that would be considered a VOC by the TT world. Not sure what the people who sold you that were talking about. But that is not a WATER BASED GLUE. And I believe, if you actually want to use a glue that adheres to TT rules, you would need to be using a WATER BASED Glue.
Here: Info for you:
Why was trichloroethylene banned?
Fetal toxicity and concerns for carcinogenic potential of TCE led to its abandonment in developed countries by the 1980s. The use of trichloroethylene in the food and pharmaceutical industries has been banned in much of the world since the 1970s due to concerns about its toxicity.
You should have been able to find that on the internet on your own though.
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So, if you want to be using that glue for its speed glue effects, there is no way around the fact that it IS AGAINST THE RULES. But if you glue, and wait a few weeks, then play a tournament, they likely won't detect the Trichloroethylene after a few weeks.Setup 1: Blade by Nate: Vortex Spin Machine, FH Evolution MX-K, BH Evolution FX-P
Setup 2: OSP Virtuoso Plus, FH Rasanter R 48, BH Rasanter R 48
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says I like to hit Heavy Topspinsays I like to hit Heavy Topspin09-25-2021 1632604276 #12Setup 1: Blade by Nate: Vortex Spin Machine, FH Evolution MX-K, BH Evolution FX-P
Setup 2: OSP Virtuoso Plus, FH Rasanter R 48, BH Rasanter R 48
Spin is Everything
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This user has no status.This user has no status.09-25-2021 1632604677 #13
If so why all Chinese National Team that uses booster are not excluded of ITTF competitions?
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says I like to hit Heavy Topspinsays I like to hit Heavy Topspin09-25-2021 1632605839 #14
Yes, almost all pros break those rules. But, nevertheless, boosters are all against the rules.
"2.4.7 The racket covering shall be used without any physical, chemical or other treatment."
That is from the ITTF Rule Book.
https://ittf.cdnomega.com/eu/2019/04...TFHandbook.pdf
In the end, whether you follow the rules is up to you. But that glue is absolutely against the rules. It is your choice whether to pay attention to the rules or not. But it is not a question whether TRICHLOROETHYLENE is a chemical that would be considered against the rules. That is the substance that causes your SPEED GLUE effect.
And, remember, speed glue and any substance that enhances rubber performance was banned in 2008.Last edited by UpSideDownCarl; 09-25-2021 at 09:46 PM.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.09-26-2021 1632649005 #15
Yes both are right TRICHLOROETHYLENE contens V. O. C.
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09-26-2021 1632653405 #16
It's because t'he booster does not content any V.O.C.
Even the table tennis manufactures use boosters in the procces for their rubbers.
The Evolution series, Bluefires, Rasanters... It's common between ESN tensors, and the H3 NEO comes with a booster layer on it, to give a chinese example.
It's legal if it comes from the factory, but is not if it's made by yourself.Sounds something between funny and stupid, but it's how it is.
Salutacions.
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says I like to hit Heavy Topspinsays I like to hit Heavy Topspin09-26-2021 1632661248 #17Setup 1: Blade by Nate: Vortex Spin Machine, FH Evolution MX-K, BH Evolution FX-P
Setup 2: OSP Virtuoso Plus, FH Rasanter R 48, BH Rasanter R 48
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This user has no status.This user has no status.09-27-2021 1632765183 #18
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This user has no status.This user has no status.09-28-2021 1632870395 #19
Attached PDF of the new one without TRICHLOROETHYLENE
Last edited by merlin el mago; 09-28-2021 at 11:08 PM.
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