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    Why is Battle 2 so popular and praised?

    Why does everybody love this rubber? Why is it so famous/popular compared to other Chinese tacky rubbers?

    I just borrowed somebody's Battle 2 and tried it. It felt fine, but not so different from other rubbers. It is like a tackier Big Dipper. But BD is quite a bit cheaper.Â

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang
    Why does everybody love this rubber? Why is it so famous/popular compared to other Chinese tacky rubbers?

    I just borrowed somebody's Battle 2 and tried it. It felt fine, but not so different from other rubbers. It is like a tackier Big Dipper. But BD is quite a bit cheaper.Â
    I love it to bits! It is so tacky, my soft version can hold a TT ball for a whole freaking 9 seconds! That is how tacky this rubber is. And she is cheaper than the overprice H3 rubber. What is there not to like?

    Yeah, it also feel a little bouncier than H3 and more similar in feel to Yinhe's Dipper. But I know some people want that dead feel of H3. To each his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gozo
    I love it to bits! It is so tacky, my soft version can hold a TT ball for a whole freaking 9 seconds! That is how tacky this rubber is. And she is cheaper than the overprice H3 rubber. What is there not to like?

    Yeah, it also feel a little bouncier than H3 and more similar in feel to Yinhe's Dipper. But I know some people want that dead feel of H3. To each his own.

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    Where do you buy it? on Aliexpress, H3 is $18 and B2 is $23.Â

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    I'm a Battle 2 player and I think that there's not a big difference comparing Battle 2 and the H3 Neo Prov. The main thing is - B2 has more arc. For the FH side I would say H3 Neo Prov is better (I prefer the lower arc on the FH), but I need to use the regular rubber on the BH too (I twiddle a lot) and because of that I prefer the B2(more arc on the BH is very helpful). Also the price is nice. Overall B2 is a very tacky and dynamic rubber for small price - I think that's enough for it to be popular)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang
    Where do you buy it? on Aliexpress, H3 is $18 and B2 is $23.Â

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    i think they are comparing it , price-wise with the H3 provincial, which indeed is quite pricey.


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    I think the gold B2 is really very nice. Quite close to H3 blue sponge. Has decent speed, not hard as a brick, quite light and so far for me very durable.
    Even a provincial H3 BS starts around 50USD in price and it's a total crapshoot if you get genuine or fake. I have not seen any fake Battle 2 reports so both price and originality wise Battle 2 or 729 has an advantage while offering very similar performance as BS H3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang
    Why does everybody love this rubber? Why is it so famous/popular compared to other Chinese tacky rubbers?I just borrowed somebody's Battle 2 and tried it. It felt fine, but not so different from other rubbers. It is like a tackier Big Dipper. But BD is quite a bit cheaper.Â

    Battle 2 is imho much better than Big Dipper. A long while ago I used to have Big Dipper. Dead and not that sticky. Battle 2 is much more alive and much easier to use.

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    You could literally ask this about any rubber except T05, H3, D09c. Those three the answer is because so many pros use them. Every other rubber can only be answered with because some people like the way it plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brs
    You could literally ask this about any rubber except T05, H3, D09c. Those three the answer is because so many pros use them. Every other rubber can only be answered with because some people like the way it plays.

    And those three also have the bling factor. Especially Butt stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto

    Battle 2 is imho much better than Big Dipper. A long while ago I used to have Big Dipper. Dead and not that sticky. Battle 2 is much more alive and much easier to use.

    Alright, just from my experience I felt they were almost identical in speed and bounciness. But the blade also makes a difference. I also got a sheet of Bloom Power and Target 90, so I am interested to see how those rubbers compare with B2 and Dipper. Also, mind you all of these rubbers are about half the price of B2, so thats why I was wondering why B2 is so popular.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang

    Alright, just from my experience I felt they were almost identical in speed and bounciness. But the blade also makes a difference. I also got a sheet of Bloom Power and Target 90, so I am interested to see how those rubbers compare with B2 and Dipper. Also, mind you all of these rubbers are about half the price of B2, so thats why I was wondering why B2 is so popular.

    B2 has 3 distinct variants.
    Commercial - the most tacky
    Prov - middle tacky, still tacky as heck
    Gold - not that tacky

    And they are actually easiest to play when going from Gold to commercial (the gold was the nicest to play in my hands).

    This is weird btw, because they should not change top sheets between those versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto

    B2 has 3 distinct variants.
    Commercial - the most tacky
    Prov - middle tacky, still tacky as heck
    Gold - not that tacky

    And they are actually easiest to play when going from Gold to commercial (the gold was the nicest to play in my hands).

    This is weird btw, because they should not change top sheets between those versions.

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    Where do you buy the commercial and gold version? On Aliexpress I only see provincial.Â


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang
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    Where do you buy the commercial and gold version? On Aliexpress I only see provincial.Â

    Commercial may not be sold no more. Gold I bought on AliExpress

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    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...38409164%22%7D

    This one? It is marked as both Gold and Provincial. So I dont know what that really means.

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    There is also blue sponge version, but it is also labeled as provincial, so I dont know the difference.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...89126967%22%7D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang
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    Where do you buy the commercial and gold version? On Aliexpress I only see provincial.Â

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang
    Where do you buy it? on Aliexpress, H3 is $18 and B2 is $23.Â

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    I bought it at a local online store
    Malaysia 729/Friendship Online Table Tennis Shop (tenryu.com.my) @ RM 130.00. ( equivalent to approx USD 30.00 ), in contrast the Provincial H3 is USD 50.00 ( after converting, approx figure )


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwill
    I think the gold B2 is really very nice. Quite close to H3 blue sponge. Has decent speed, not hard as a brick, quite light and so far for me very durable. Even a provincial H3 BS starts around 50USD in price and it's a total crapshoot if you get genuine or fake. I have not seen any fake Battle 2 reports so both price and originality wise Battle 2 or 729 has an advantage while offering very similar performance as BS H3.
    I had only 2 sheets of B2, OS H39 and BS H40 - quite good and closest to H3. My impression was that the top-sheet was slightly harder or less elastic on B2, I prefer the H3 top-sheet. Also, H3 is available in more hardnesses. Still, for FH the B2 is 2nd best for me.

    Btw. the gold one you speak about, does it have the reddish sponge (black top-sheet)? The images on Ali are not very convincing, one can't be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by latej
    I had only 2 sheets of B2, OS H39 and BS H40 - quite good and closest to H3. My impression was that the top-sheet was slightly harder or less elastic on B2, I prefer the H3 top-sheet. Also, H3 is available in more hardnesses. Still, for FH the B2 is 2nd best for me.

    Btw. the gold one you speak about, does it have the reddish sponge (black top-sheet)? The images on Ali are not very convincing, one can't be sure.

    My Gold sponges were purple.

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