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    Darker 5 Classic CNF

    I'm trying to find a little more information about this blade.What is the exact composition of the blade? Is it a "clone" of Butterfly's Revoldia CNF?
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    Haven't tried it myself but this has a Hinoki core and outer ply. It does use CNF but thats the only similarity I can see. Darker have quite a few CNF blades now so one of the others is probably closer. I have tried the Cegna which has CNF with a Kiri core and Limba outer and I really enjoyed playing with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AfroBro
    Haven't tried it myself but this has a Hinoki core and outer ply. It does use CNF but thats the only similarity I can see. Darker have quite a few CNF blades now so one of the others is probably closer. I have tried the Cegna which has CNF with a Kiri core and Limba outer and I really enjoyed playing with it.
    What I've found out so far is that it has Hinoki and CNF layers, just like Revoldia.
    Its thickness is 6.5mm which is a little thicker than Revoldia that is 5.7mm. What I haven't determined is if the two blades have exactly the same layers.
    I tried a Revoldia and I really liked it, but there is no way I'll pay 330€ for it. This Darker looks like a good "clone"

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    I haven't seen or used a revoldia irl but from pictures, pretty sure that's a Koto outer layer and a Kiri core - so the core and outer ply are different to the Darker 5 which has Hinoki for both. I would expect them to be very different blades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AfroBro
    I haven't seen or used a revoldia irl but from pictures, pretty sure that's a Koto outer layer and a Kiri core - so the core and outer ply are different to the Darker 5 which has Hinoki for both. I would expect them to be very different blades.

    I was under the impression that Revoldia had Hinoki, not Koto & Kiri... Maybe you're right, I'll have to make a more thorough research.
    If that's the case, for sure they will be VERY different blades indeed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AfroBro
    I haven't seen or used a revoldia irl but from pictures, pretty sure that's a Koto outer layer and a Kiri core - so the core and outer ply are different to the Darker 5 which has Hinoki for both. I would expect them to be very different blades.

    Although I wasn't able to find the exact composition of Revoldia form a reliable source, I found the composition of a Chinese copy.
    So if we assume that they have copied the exact layer structure, Revoldia's composition is KOTO + CNF + Ayous + Ayous + Ayous + CNF + KOTO

    (No Brand) Lemuria CNF (white Carbon) Reviews (revspin.net)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady

    Although I wasn't able to find the exact composition of Revoldia form a reliable source, I found the composition of a Chinese copy.
    So if we assume that they have copied the exact layer structure, Revoldia's composition is KOTO + CNF + Ayous + Ayous + Ayous + CNF + KOTO

    (No Brand) Lemuria CNF (white Carbon) Reviews (revspin.net)

    Attached two pics I got from a quick Google of Revoldia cnf. That's a Kiri core and a Koto outer. Medial ply could well be Ayous though.





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    Quote Originally Posted by AfroBro

    Attached two pics I got from a quick Google of Revoldia cnf. That's a Kiri core and a Koto outer. Medial ply could well be Ayous though.




    Through my research I came across the thread in Mytabletennis.net that you found the picture. I'm not an expert on wood types, so I can't really understand the type of wood from a plain photo.
    Butterfly Revoldia CNF - Alex Table Tennis - MyTableTennis.NET Forum - Page 2

    Indeed it may be Kiri and Koto but the thing is that I haven't found a really reliable source to validate it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady

    Through my research I came across the thread in Mytabletennis.net that you found the picture. I'm not an expert on wood types, so I can't really understand the type of wood from a plain photo.
    Butterfly Revoldia CNF - Alex Table Tennis - MyTableTennis.NET Forum - Page 2

    Indeed it may be Kiri and Koto but the thing is that I haven't found a really reliable source to validate it.

    AfroBro is a reliable source, trust what he says.

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    AfroBro is a reliable source, trust what he says.

    I don't doubt the guy, I'm sure he knows what he says. All I'm saying I haven't found an "official" let's say source about the composition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady
    I don't doubt the guy, I'm sure he knows what he says. All I'm saying I haven't found an "official" let's say source about the composition.

    And you won't because Butterfly doesn't disclose the composition of their blades. Any composition you see out there will be unofficial, and most of them, especially the ones you find on the blades database, are inaccurate.

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    Sergio, will you be using CNF in the near future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hleett
    Sergio, will you be using CNF in the near future?

    I would love to, unfortunately I still couldn't get my hands on it.

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