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    Vodak 4APC King

    VODAK 4APC King







    VODAK 4APC King

    Available at: www.vodak-dreva.cz (The website is in Czech but if you open it using Google Chrome it will automatically translate the site for you.)

    Blade composition: Limba – APCLimba APCKiriAPCLimba APC Limba

    Blade construction: I’ve said this for all the Vodak blades I’ve reviewed, and I’ll say it again: the quality is up there with the very best you can get. Any of you who’ve used blades made by top blade-makers (of which there are several in the TTD community) will know what I mean: their blades are a cut above commercially produced products. The well-respected reviewer Yogi Bear said of another Vodak blade (I think it was the Rebel Carbon Off) that it is the best ‘bang for the buck’ blade available at the moment he’s 100% right and that applies equally to the 4APC King: at a similar price I don’t think any of the commercial blades can compete on quality.

    Blade dimensions: 157mm x 152mm x 6.0mm. Note that Vodak make their blades to order and will make any of the following sizes for no additional charge:
    • 157mm x 150mm
    • 157mm x 152mm
    • 157mm x 156mm
    • 162mm x 156mm

    Blade weight: 87.5g

    Handle: ‘Anatomical’ style at 105mm by request (Standard length is 100mm).

    Tested with: Nittaku Fastarc G-1 (max.) FH & Stiga DNA Pro M (max.) BH

    First impressions: Excellent control and precision; surprisingly soft feeling for an outer-fibre blade; slower than I was expecting for a 9-ply blade with 4 APC layers. The 4APC King (I’m just going to call it King from now on) offers incredible control for a stiff 9-layer (5 wood + 4 APC) blade, enabling very precise ball placement. An analogy might help (but only if you’re a Lord of the Rings fan!): The King feels like the kind of weapon that Legolas would choose (ie. nimble, precise, sharp, deadly-accurate) rather than battle-axe kind of weapon Gimli would use. I know that won’t make any sense to some of you but, to others, that’s pretty much all I need to say!

    Speed: The base speed is quite low I would say around ALL. But … as you apply more force, so you discover more and more ‘gears’ and the top-end speed is more than sufficient. The interesting thing is that it feels very different at the top end to, for example, the Vodak M. Horejsi ALC (see reviews on TTD and RevSpin). Whereas the Horejsi is an ‘innerfibre’ construction with some flex that imparts top-end power through a ‘whip’ action, the King is very stiff with no flex at all and when you really bang on the power the 4 layers of APC seem to come alive!

    Feel: A gentle, soft touch on low-impact shots. A stiff, sharp connection on high-impact shots. I don’t know the technical details of how Vodak achieved this, but the King seems to have an incredible range of gears. I also don’t know the technical details of what APC is compared to ALC, ZLC and other synthetic fibres but, to me, it feels softer than others I’ve used. Another reviewer said that the APC feels to him very similar to Super ZLC. When you play gently with it, it feels soft and easy. I know folks will debate whether ‘dwell time’ is a real thing or not, but we all know the difference between a blade that ‘feels’ like it gives good dwell time compared to one that feels like it doesn’t. Well, the King gives the feeling of good dwell time on all shots. Even so , when you connect with force it feels sharp, stiff and quick. It also has the largest sweet-spot of any blade I’ve used. Basically, it doesn’t have a sweet ‘spot’ the whole thing is just sweet!

    Arc / trajectory: I found it produced a slightly lower arc than the Horejsi ALC on most shots, but that the trajectory was more constant. The Horejsi probably gave me a marginally higher arc in the low-to-mid range, but was more direct on high-powered shots. The King was ‘medium’ throughout on the FH side, but more direct on the BH.

    Loops: This is a blade for those who want to win points on precision placement rather than brute power. Again, think Legolas rather than Gimli! The soft touch allows easier forehand opening loops than with other stiff blades, and very precise and controlled follow-ups with high-spin and a super-direct trajectory. It won’t give you the same level of outright, top-end power as, for example, the Vodak Horejsi ALC Entech (or something similar like a DHS Long 5), but it’s still a quick blade when you go for it. On the backhand it’s amazing! Whereas the Horejsi ALC Entech is my favourite blade for FH loops, the King is far and away the best BH attack blade I’ve used. So much so that I’ve seriously considered adopting the King as my main blade.

    Flicks: Excellent! The soft touch combined with stiff response when you apply force means it’s the perfect blade for quick flick attacks.

    Block: Very good on active blocks, as you’d expect of a stiff blade. It’s probably not the best blade for passive blockers though.

    Chop: Easy. I found it easy to chop from both near and far, and to switch from chops to loops and back again with no problems at all. The stiffness of the blade means it’s super-predictable and therefore easy to adjust the force of your own impact to control the trajectory of your chops very well.

    Serve: The soft feel of the King (on low impact shots) makes it easy to impart lots of spin on serves and to vary placement, angle and speed of delivery.

    Control: Very high! The King behaves absolutely predictably and enables very precise, accurate play across the full range of shots.

    Overall: The King is a special blade in that it enables easier spin generation than most outer-fibre blades and in that, whereas most outer-fibre blades are purely offensive blades, the King would support an allround player just as well. If you are an all-out power attacker (think Hugo Calderano, FZD, Ma Long, Dimitri Ovtcharov) then there are probably other blades better suited to you. That said, the King would suit a player like Lin Yun-Ju perfectly still an awesome attacking player, but who relies more on precision and timing than on physical power. It would equally suit players like Simon Gauzy (who plays with superb ‘touch’ and can switch from weird, tricky shots to acutely-angled bullets in the blink of an eye) or Mima Ito (close to the table, super-quick reflexes, and sharp, precise shots). All in all, the King is something special and deserves to be thought of in the very top echelon of blades at the moment. Given the exchange rates and prices at the time of this review, the King is around one-third of the price of the top Butterfly Super ZLC blades and it’s at least their equal for quality. That’s some serious value for money!

    Those of you who’ve read my reviews of other Vodak blades will know that, by now, I’m a big fan. Vodak blades are (in my opinion, for my playing style, and compared to everything else I’ve tried) simply the best standard production blades (by which I mean blades you can order from a manufacturer as 'standard' products; ie. I'm not comparing to custom blades) available at the moment.

    See some other reviews of the King on this site here:

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    Thanks for the review!

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    apc ???????


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    Quote Originally Posted by lodro

    apc ???????

    Very tight woven alc. Kind of like super alc. Ms Vodak says it slower and better spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto

    Very tight woven alc. Kind of like super alc. Ms Vodak says it slower and better spin.

    Thanks buddy 🙏

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    Thanks for the review.
    I've tried it and like it a lot.

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    Manto76:
    Wery good , informative review.
    Many thanks!
    King blade is unique blade in tt-world. Another blades with 4 composite layers are hard , high speed , rigid. Not so easy to use.
    King APC is despite 4 composite layer soft feeling , mild feeling blade with middle speed by fine shots.And by power shots is this blade so powerfull or just so powerfull as Viscaria blade.
    I tried this blades face to face .
    King has similary abilities for power play as Viscaria.
    But in pasive game King has big advantage - definitely more controll due sufter feel , lesser speed.
    No doubt.
    I thing for many players not professional levels King should be better option due this features.
    When it is needed , I can play controlled , passive game and when it is possible , I can vith the same blade to play very aggressive powerfull game.
    This is biggest advantage King blade against classic ALC or ZLC blade.
    As I already said , we played in corona times with my friend in very small room.
    I played with King blade.
    Friend tried this blade shortly.
    When I played powerspins and he blocked , he asked me for King blade with explanation , that he needed this extra control for his blocking game .
    His main blade was Butterfly Kong Ling euro blade , 7-ply wooden blade.
    This short episode can take you , why is play with King interesting.
    Against Horejsi ALC blade is King stiffer , basc speed lower , power speed the same or very similary , King is stiffer , better for blocking game and passive game (inclusive play with short and long pips , anti e.t.c.), Horejsi ALC has some flex , what is probably better for easier generating topspin game.
    But all is hard individually..
    Both blades are on very high level of controll for offensive blades.

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    Last edited by MartyC; 10-25-2021 at 01:10 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyC

    King has similar abilities for power play as Viscaria. But in passive game King has big advantage - definitely more control due softer feel , lesser speed.
    No doubt.
    I think for many players not professional levels King should be better option due this features.

    Agree 100% 👍

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