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    Hi,
    I am confused. Is it that expensive to get Chinese products abroad?
    Tabletennis11.com claims to have the cheapest prices, but I find it almost twice as expensive when it comes to DHS products.
    For example, a commercial H3 non neo is 19 euros, but I can get one domestically at a local store for around 12 euros( quality guaranteed)
    and the balls and some blades or rubbers are even more expensive. For example the W968 is 600 euros or less domestically and 150 euros more expensive on the site.
    This must be a nightmare for DHSlovers.

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    Yeah that is pretty much how it goes for DHS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    Hi,
    I am confused. Is it that expensive to get Chinese products abroad?
    Tabletennis11.com claims to have the cheapest prices, but I find it almost twice as expensive when it comes to DHS products.
    For example, a commercial H3 non neo is 19 euros, but I can get one domestically at a local store for around 12 euros( quality guaranteed)
    and the balls and some blades or rubbers are even more expensive. For example the W968 is 600 euros or less domestically and 150 euros more expensive on the site.
    This must be a nightmare for DHSlovers.

    Are you sure you are making a fair comparison ?
    Of course one expect goods to be cheaper in the country they were manufactured.
    Does it not cost to ship goods to ie, Europe ????
    Are there not custom duties for import to be paid ????
    Who do you think will have to pay the wages , rent of premises, cost of website etc etc all European wages, nobody works for peanuts there 😁

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    I agree with the last post, I think you can't compare domestic prices in China with export prices.

    TT 11 seems to be cheaper Than aliexpress for example but not by much, I haven't seen china TT stuff cheaper in Europe than at tt11 but still the export does cost some money (customs, transportation costs etc)
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    There are european online stores even cheaper than TT11 > tt-store.eu, based in Bulgaria.[h1] [/h1]
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    What is the price of Yasaka and Stiga blades in China?

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    What is the price of Yasaka and Stiga blades in China?

    I only know that the Yasaka is not outrageously expensive, and Stiga is a little more expensive than Butterfly. The Clipper is around 80 euros and that’s about all I know of these brands. Butterfly is interesting though, the viscaria on the Chinese website costs 20 euros more than the TB ALC, but on other countries’ websites the TB ALC is more expensive. Anyone know why that is?

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    #9
    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong

    I only know that the Yasaka is not outrageously expensive, and Stiga is a little more expensive than Butterfly. The Clipper is around 80 euros and that’s about all I know of these brands. Butterfly is interesting though, the viscaria on the Chinese website costs 20 euros more than the TB ALC, but on other countries’ websites the TB ALC is more expensive. Anyone know why that is?

    Stiga Clipper costs 50€ in Spain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong

    I only know that the Yasaka is not outrageously expensive, and Stiga is a little more expensive than Butterfly. The Clipper is around 80 euros and that’s about all I know of these brands. Butterfly is interesting though, the viscaria on the Chinese website costs 20 euros more than the TB ALC, but on other countries’ websites the TB ALC is more expensive. Anyone know why that is?

    The cheap BTY equipment are most likely bootlegged copies. We do not have that in Europe unless we purchase from China...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    Hi,
    I am confused. Is it that expensive to get Chinese products abroad?
    Tabletennis11.com claims to have the cheapest prices, but I find it almost twice as expensive when it comes to DHS products.
    For example, a commercial H3 non neo is 19 euros, but I can get one domestically at a local store for around 12 euros( quality guaranteed)
    and the balls and some blades or rubbers are even more expensive. For example the W968 is 600 euros or less domestically and 150 euros more expensive on the site.
    This must be a nightmare for DHSlovers.
    As for rubbers I don't know, but the DHS W968 is the limited edition and not the normal edition which costs 150 Euros

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazer
    The cheap BTY equipment are most likely bootlegged copies. We do not have that in Europe unless we purchase from China...

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    They are both from the official Butterfly website, just different regions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADurao
    As for rubbers I don't know, but the DHS W968 is the limited edition and not the normal edition which costs 150 Euros

    Please read my post carefully. The W968 domestically is 150 euros CHEAPER than that on TT11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong

    I only know that the Yasaka is not outrageously expensive, and Stiga is a little more expensive than Butterfly. The Clipper is around 80 euros and that’s about all I know of these brands. Butterfly is interesting though, the viscaria on the Chinese website costs 20 euros more than the TB ALC, but on other countries’ websites the TB ALC is more expensive. Anyone know why that is?

    Probably because of Zhang Jike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong

    I only know that the Yasaka is not outrageously expensive, and Stiga is a little more expensive than Butterfly. The Clipper is around 80 euros and that’s about all I know of these brands. Butterfly is interesting though, the viscaria on the Chinese website costs 20 euros more than the TB ALC, but on other countries’ websites the TB ALC is more expensive. Anyone know why that is?

    I think it's just the market situation. Here many chose TB ALC over Viscaria so they can sell it for a bit higher price. Purely because there are many Timo fans and most people don't know they are almost the same blade.
    In China I think Viscaria is more popular probably because of Zhang Jike. But maybe now the Lin Gaoyuan ALC will be popular too, many CNT players chose it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lodro

    Are you sure you are making a fair comparison ?
    Of course one expect goods to be cheaper in the country they were manufactured.
    Does it not cost to ship goods to ie, Europe ????
    Are there not custom duties for import to be paid ????
    Who do you think will have to pay the wages , rent of premises, cost of website etc etc all European wages, nobody works for peanuts there 😁

    You forgot to say that when you are buying directly from the manufacturer and in bulk you get stuff much cheaper. TT11 probably buys 1000 sheets of H3, not a one-piece. Shipping and logistics are cheaper that way, they probably also get a discount as well.

    I would highly suggest taking into account all price modifiers not only the ones that would justify higher price, but also those which give importer/distributor higher margin to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADurao
    As for rubbers I don't know, but the DHS W968 is the limited edition and not the normal edition which costs 150 Euros

    Please read my post carefully. The W968 domestically is 150 euros CHEAPER than that on TT11.

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    #18
    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong

    Please read my post carefully. The W968 domestically is 150 euros CHEAPER than that on TT11.

    W968 is currently listed for 914EUR on TT11, if I use 20%VAT that is just about 150EUR. So it makes sense that it's 150EUR cheaper domestically.

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    I am happy to be living in a country whereby, although the TT culture is not as dominant compared to China, Korea, Japan or Germany but nonetheless the TT gears sold here are in cheaper comparatively. To give an example; Tenergy 05 is sold around USD70. Isn't it great?


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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Zwill
    W968 is currently listed for 914EUR on TT11, if I use 20%VAT that is just about 150EUR. So it makes sense that it's 150EUR cheaper domestically.

    Here in Portugal 23% vat


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