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    Moaning

    If you have ever watched Dan or Ovtcharov play, you know you have to turn off the sound. But why do they “moan and groan”? I’ve tried it( and been stared at), but I didn’t feel it make a difference. In Ovtcharov’s case I feel like it’s intentional, is it a distraction tactic?
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    I tend to make some subtle groans too when using a lot of power to hit a shot. i’m not doing it intentionally and i guess it’s just natural and almost like giving urself an extra umph of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yousuhika
    I tend to make some subtle groans too when using a lot of power to hit a shot. i’m not doing it intentionally and i guess it’s just natural and almost like giving urself an extra umph of power.

    Yeah that is a thing, but I was thinking of the massive and loud moans that sound like a certain activity… Just, why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    If you have ever watched Dan or Ovtcharov play, you know you have to turn off the sound. But why do they “moan and groan”? I’ve tried it( and been stared at), but I didn’t feel it make a difference. In Ovtcharov’s case I feel like it’s intentional, is it a distraction tactic?
    Anyone is welcome to pitch in.

    Mr Miyagi says, " Daniel-san, breathe in! breathe out! "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gozo

    Mr Miyagi says, " Daniel-san, breathe in! breathe out! "

    WOOOP!! AAHH!!
    —— Dimitrij Ovtcharov, Olympic Table Tennis Bronz Medalist

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    A forceful exhale causes muscles to contract more fully. If it is well timed to the contact of the ball it will add more force to the contact. If you phonate (make sound) like in a "karate chop" that will make the exhale more forceful. I doubt it is conscious. But it will add power to the stroke on contact.

    Here is an actual video on the subject with tennis.

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    Grunting, groaning is a means / way of activating your 'core' muscles. that's why Tennis players started doing it years ago.
    We do it naturally sometimes, without thinking about it or actually meaning to, when you are pushed, using more power for movement and playing a harder stroke, it just happens.
    I think research identified that an 'involuntary' grunt has a couple of attributes (maybe not limited to those below)
    1) tensing the core helps protect the body or possibly your back.
    2) helps transfer energy/power through your body.
    Timo boll gave his 3 top tips in one of his blogs, one of those top tips was to activate your core at impact, which he said helps to produce some extra power and possibly stability.
    My Pilates instructor said that tensing of the core helps to protect your back during the exercises. you basically have to try and tense your stomach muscles so that it feels like they are trying to touch your back for the whole of the session, you are not meant to relax them AT ALL for 45 - 60 mins!!! easier said than done!!! then the breathing comes into play, if you hold these muscles tense they naturally tense slightly more (or feel like they tense up more) as you breathe in and want to relax as you breathe out, so you have to remember to keep them tense as you breathe out.

    You can tense your core muscles by THINKING about it without a load grunt or groan, but you don't necessarily want to be THINKING about it during a match or rally !! For some its easier to grunt for almost every stroke that requires power.

    Carl has way more knowledge on movement mechanics, if I'm wrong about the above he'll pull things back into line.

    Is the grunting a tactic?? a distraction?? depends on why the player is grunting or groaning!!!! some opponents may let it get into their head, others just ignore it.
    With Tennis it seams to be the norm these days, to the extent of some players are SCREAMING!! excessive?? perhaps!!!!

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    I see. When I practice Teakwondo, my instructors always told us to phonate when kicking or making a hard punch. So it’s the same reason after all: grunting contracts muscles and results in a more powerful shot or move.Thanks!

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    I think part of the issue is DO does is also sometimes when he blocks :') its just his process but its a bit silly sounding. Prefer it to 8 seconds of full screaming when you win a soft shot tho.

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    you have to remember every time you see ovtcharov, dan, etc.... it's in a video.
    it's not real life.
    it's a "professional" video made for entertainment.
    they exaggerate everything to make it more entertaining and to engage the audience more.
    it's not something you are supposed to do in real life lol.
    imagine in a club of 20 people if everybody was grunting like ovtcharov

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    Quote Originally Posted by olzetezkarzo
    imagine in a club of 20 people if everybody was grunting like ovtcharov
    I guess that club would be called something like “The Swingers”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    WOOOP!! AAHH!!
    —— Dimitrij Ovtcharov, Olympic Table Tennis Bronz Medalist

    Could it be German for Whoop Arse?

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