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. To me, the boosting process is a labour of love, a work of art. It is like a ritual.
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This is just because you asked. I don't care about boosting one way or the other. But here is the statute from the rules of table tennis that states that adding some form of chemical that changes the playing characteristics of the rubber is against the rules:I understand that many players mean that boosters are against the table tennis regulations, but I can't find any good documentation about this. Could someone please point me in the right direction?
This is just because you asked. I don't care about boosting one way or the other. But here is the statute from the rules of table tennis that states that adding some form of chemical that changes the playing characteristics of the rubber is against the rules:
"2.4.7 The racket covering shall be used without any physical, chemical or other treatment."
That is on page 33 of the 2021 ITTF Handbook:
https://documents.ittf.sport/sites/default/files/public/2021-04/2021ITTFHandbook.pdf
Hope that is helpful. I don't think it should be the rule. But that is the rule. When ITTF banned Speed Glue, they also banned using any kind of chemical that could change the playing characteristics of the rubber.
But the truth is, at the pro level, everyone is using something to enhance the playing characteristics of the rubber and for someone who just plays for the enjoyment of playing, does it really matter if you are boosting?
...................and of course one can then only wonder what good it will do, at pro level, to inspect the opposition's racket before the match.
Player A looks at player B's racket and sees a Hurricane 3 but what is it ???? Provincial, National, Special selection ??? or what ?
Is the rubber boosted or not boosted ? Who can tell ?
For my level of play boosting a rubber is simply an "interest", occupational therapy if you want. I often use a boosted pair of rubbers on one blade and the same , but un-boosted rubber on a identical second blade. It does not give me an advantage or make me a better player nor has ever anybody complained about it.
Should we have 2 different handbooks ?
Maybe the top 100 males and females should be strictly policed and sanctioned, as for the rest ...........................😊
When ITTF banned Speed Glue, they said it was because of health reasons. The thing that shows that this was a false premise for the ban is that, when they instituted the ban, they also banned chemicals like booster oils that DO NOT present any health risk.--...................and of course one can then only wonder what good it will do, at pro level, to inspect the opposition's racket before the match.
Player A looks at player B's racket and sees a Hurricane 3 but what is it ???? Provincial, National, Special selection ??? or what ?
Is the rubber boosted or not boosted ? Who can tell ?
For my level of play boosting a rubber is simply an "interest", occupational therapy if you want. I often use a boosted pair of rubbers on one blade and the same , but un-boosted rubber on a identical second blade. It does not give me an advantage or make me a better player nor has ever anybody complained about it.
Should we have 2 different handbooks ?
Maybe the top 100 males and females should be strictly policed and sanctioned, as for the rest ...........................😊
I understand for hard tacky rubber, you boost to soften it up or break-in the rubber faster. I, personally have not boost soft rubber such as H3-60 et al. I wonder if you boost it, will it turn mushy? Have you tried it before friend?What I have experienced with Haifu Seamoon Booster and boosting DHS H3 41deg, Yinhe Big Dipper 38/39deg and DHS H8-80 38deg is that you, with harder sponges get a more "alive" rubber. The H8-80 is a softer rubber, so the effect isn't so big there.
I guess the effect is better with harder sponges, as they softens up a little bit, and at the same time the top sheet is a bit stretched, making the setup a bit more bouncy. Now this isn't a huge difference from the original unboosted sponge. The H3N doesn't become a Tenergy thankfully, so you still have control in the short game as well.
I understand that many players mean that boosters are against the table tennis regulations, but I can't find any good documentation about this. Could someone please point me in the right direction?
Yes, it will get "mushy" if you apply too much.I understand for hard tacky rubber, you boost to soften it up or break-in the rubber faster. I, personally have not boost soft rubber such as H3-60 et al. I wonder if you boost it, will it turn mushy? Have you tried it before friend?
Thanx I just wonder if I'm allowed to glue the rubber to the blade then? It's a kind of treatment as well, and if it gets dirty, could I even clean it?This is just because you asked. I don't care about boosting one way or the other. But here is the statute from the rules of table tennis that states that adding some form of chemical that changes the playing characteristics of the rubber is against the rules:
"2.4.7 The racket covering shall be used without any physical, chemical or other treatment."
That is on page 33 of the 2021 ITTF Handbook:
https://documents.ittf.sport/sites/default/files/public/2021-04/2021ITTFHandbook.pdf
Hope that is helpful. I don't think it should be the rule. But that is the rule. When ITTF banned Speed Glue, they also banned using any kind of chemical that could change the playing characteristics of the rubber.
But the truth is, at the pro level, everyone is using something to enhance the playing characteristics of the rubber and for someone who just plays for the enjoyment of playing, does it really matter if you are boosting?
If you read the whole section on racket and rubbers these questions are sort of addressed. But some of what you are talking about is that the rules are ridiculous and cannot be enforced and that is true. And some of what you are talking about is that people are ridiculous and make excuses for themselves and that is also true.Thanx I just wonder if I'm allowed to glue the rubber to the blade then? It's a kind of treatment as well, and if it gets dirty, could I even clean it?
After all it's only the top sheet being approved by the ITTF, right? Well. I'm not a top player in any way, so I don't really care so much about this. There are so many players still using speed glue, so this rule is a bit toothless anyway.
One thing that could bother me sometimes is that it seems like boosting sounds a bit illegal in other players ears, while they selves speed glue their rubbers, defending it with that 'everyone always have done this since the dawn of time', and 'it's too hard using VOC free glues'.
If you read the whole section on racket and rubbers these questions are sort of addressed. But some of what you are talking about is that the rules are ridiculous and cannot be enforced and that is true. And some of what you are talking about is that people are ridiculous and make excuses for themselves and that is also true.
So, I won't argue with any of that. To some extent the ITTF's ban on speed glue and boosters was about $$. The money they would make in approving a whole slew of new equipment. And that does cost $$.
I believe the ITTF's approval of "rubbers" is actually Rubber/Sponge combination. Like, I am not sure it would be legal to use a Tenergy Sponge with a H3 topsheet or vice versa. But, this also is something they can't really enforce and if we are playing in clubs and not in ITTF sanctioned tournaments, I am not sure any of this is worth thinking about.
So, how does DHS put out so many different versions of H3 where it is the same topsheet with different sponges? I believe ITTF just ignores these things.
I think the best solution would be to have a maximum exit velocity value for a bat rubber combo where you shoot a ball with a certain velocity onto a bat and then measure the rebound velocity or distance. Baseball metal bats are actually tested like that.
Issue with that is that it is expensive to measure and you would need to test before every match.
An alternative would be to increase ball size by a millimeter every 5 years to accommodate for faster equipment or you make tables more rough and slow (which is what they did in tennis)
The approval is for the topsheet only.I believe the ITTF's approval of "rubbers" is actually Rubber/Sponge combination. Like, I am not sure it would be legal to use a Tenergy Sponge with a H3 topsheet or vice versa
DHS mindset: just say it’s the same rubber, they won’t notice.If you read the whole section on racket and rubbers these questions are sort of addressed. But some of what you are talking about is that the rules are ridiculous and cannot be enforced and that is true. And some of what you are talking about is that people are ridiculous and make excuses for themselves and that is also true.
So, I won't argue with any of that. To some extent the ITTF's ban on speed glue and boosters was about $$. The money they would make in approving a whole slew of new equipment. And that does cost $$.
I believe the ITTF's approval of "rubbers" is actually Rubber/Sponge combination. Like, I am not sure it would be legal to use a Tenergy Sponge with a H3 topsheet or vice versa. But, this also is something they can't really enforce and if we are playing in clubs and not in ITTF sanctioned tournaments, I am not sure any of this is worth thinking about.
So, how does DHS put out so many different versions of H3 where it is the same topsheet with different sponges? I believe ITTF just ignores these things.
I think the best solution would be to have a maximum exit velocity value for a bat rubber combo where you shoot a ball with a certain velocity onto a bat and then measure the rebound velocity or distance. Baseball metal bats are actually tested like that.
Limiting the maximum speed after impact is not the way to do it. What you are talking about is measuring the coefficient of restitution. There should be no limit. I don't think a limit is practical. Also, there is such a thing as too fast to control.
Not really, a high speed camera could do this but what is even simpler it to drop the ball from some height and see how high it bounces.
Issue with that is that it is expensive to measure and you would need to test before every match.
NOOOOOOOOOO! Table tennis is for the players. We don't need equipment or rule changes every couple of years.An alternative would be to increase ball size by a millimeter every 5 years to accommodate for faster equipment or you make tables more rough and slow (which is what they did in tennis)
I don't care if someone boost or not. It doesn't make them a better player and from what I can see on this and other forums is that people boost with the wrong thing or don't boost with the right amount.
Also, the ITTF approval for rubbers only seems to apply to the top sheet. Think about it. Many rubbers come in 3 sponge thickness. I have even seen a case where the different thickness of sponge were not made of the same material/sponge hardness.
An alternative would be to increase ball size by a millimeter every 5 years to accommodate for faster equipment or you make tables more rough and slow (which is what they did in tennis)
NOOOOOOOOOO! Table tennis is for the players. We don't need equipment or rule changes every couple of years.
Most of the stuff that is written here is like a joke to me. It is hard to tell the difference between what is intended as joke or just simple ignorance.Funny. I thought Dominikk was joking. Funny to see someone act as though that was a serious comment. hahahahaha.