Butterfly Dimitrij Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC Review

NDH · Dec 23, 2021

Tonimontana said:
Thanks for your review, it is much appreciated. I see that you are comparing this blade with different blades that you have had in the past. I would like to ask your personal preference after trying those blades, which blade would you pick if you had only one choice and why?

The Ovtcharov..... Because after spending £350 on the blade and rubbers, it's the only answer that'll let me sleep at night 😂

In all seriousness, I would have to do a direct comparison of the Ovtcharov with the TB ALC using the same rubbers before deciding.

I would rather have the TB ALC over the Harimoto though, so it's between the TB ALC and Ovtcharov.

My gut feeling is that I'd go with the Ovtcharov, because it provides all the power I need with a better touch and short game.

But honestly, if you went for the one you liked the look of most..... You probably wouldn't be missing out too much - They are all very, very similar.

Colin Ksh · Dec 29, 2021

Is dignics 09C on ovtcharov’s blade too(overly) fast?
from what timo boll said dignics 09C can be used for intermediate players as well due to the longer contact time.
Moreover, do you think it’d be suitable to use Rozena on the bh side of Ovtcharov’s blade?

NDH · Dec 29, 2021

Colin Ksh said:
Is dignics 09C on ovtcharov’s blade too(overly) fast?
from what timo boll said dignics 09C can be used for intermediate players as well due to the longer contact time.
Moreover, do you think it’d be suitable to use Rozena on the bh side of Ovtcharov’s blade?

Amazingly, I’d have no problems recommending 09C to an intermediate player.

You really have to work it, like you would a cheaper Chinese rubber - The rubber doesn’t do much of the work for you, so if you are currently used to being out of position and playing a soft shot that has the catapult effect of something like T05, you’ll find there will be an adjustment period for 09C.

I’ve had it a few times where I’ve been jammed up in my body, and tried to play a slow controlled shot back, and it’s barely gone anywhere.

Previously, T05 would always you to do that, but Dignics requires much more effort.

As for Rozena, I’ve never actually tried it, but I’d have no issues using it.

I think it’s easy to worry about what rubbers go with what blades etc, but personally, I just don’t think it matters quite as much as people think.

if you break all rubbers and blades down into 4 categories of DEF, ALL, OFF and OFF+, you can then just pair up what you want.

Rozena would come under the OFF category for me, and the blade would be an OFF+

So if you can use a fast blade with fast rubbers, you’ll be absolutely fine.

Colin Ksh · Dec 29, 2021

NDH said:
Amazingly, I’d have no problems recommending 09C to an intermediate player.

You really have to work it, like you would a cheaper Chinese rubber - The rubber doesn’t do much of the work for you, so if you are currently used to being out of position and playing a soft shot that has the catapult effect of something like T05, you’ll find there will be an adjustment period for 09C.

I’ve had it a few times where I’ve been jammed up in my body, and tried to play a slow controlled shot back, and it’s barely gone anywhere.

Previously, T05 would always you to do that, but Dignics requires much more effort.

As for Rozena, I’ve never actually tried it, but I’d have no issues using it.

I think it’s easy to worry about what rubbers go with what blades etc, but personally, I just don’t think it matters quite as much as people think.

if you break all rubbers and blades down into 4 categories of DEF, ALL, OFF and OFF+, you can then just pair up what you want.

Rozena would come under the OFF category for me, and the blade would be an OFF+

So if you can use a fast blade with fast rubbers, you’ll be absolutely fine.

First of all thanks, for explaining with patience. By the way how much does the blade itself alone weight with ST handle of yours? And the total weight with both rubbers as well. How’s the durability and longevity of dignics 09C?
Another thing I’d like to know is the edge tape and the no of layers of glue you use.
do you use the edge tape all around the racket or just in some proportion like timo and dima. Does the edge tape really have impact on the racket overall like becoming slower or not feeling as crips as before or as it should be.
Im sure you do use free chack pro 2 glue, may I know how many layers of glue do you use on the rubbers and blade.

Pls don’t mind me for asking many questions as I have to be very mindful and careful when buying certain equipment and setup as they cost bucks and I have to pay it myself.
Thanks in advance🙌
would love to hear from you and much appreciated

jamiebtt · Dec 31, 2021

NDH said:
Amazingly, I’d have no problems recommending 09C to an intermediate player.

You really have to work it, like you would a cheaper Chinese rubber - The rubber doesn’t do much of the work for you, so if you are currently used to being out of position and playing a soft shot that has the catapult effect of something like T05, you’ll find there will be an adjustment period for 09C.

I’ve had it a few times where I’ve been jammed up in my body, and tried to play a slow controlled shot back, and it’s barely gone anywhere.

Previously, T05 would always you to do that, but Dignics requires much more effort.

As for Rozena, I’ve never actually tried it, but I’d have no issues using it.

I think it’s easy to worry about what rubbers go with what blades etc, but personally, I just don’t think it matters quite as much as people think.

if you break all rubbers and blades down into 4 categories of DEF, ALL, OFF and OFF+, you can then just pair up what you want.

Rozena would come under the OFF category for me, and the blade would be an OFF+

So if you can use a fast blade with fast rubbers, you’ll be absolutely fine.

Hi NDH I see you have switched to using ovtcharov ALC, Dignics 09c on the forehand and Dignics 05 on the backhand from your Timo Boll ALC and T05 on both sides, how does this setup differ

Rinforzando · Sep 27, 2022

Any other reviews ? I heard that the blade is quite stiff (is it stiffer than a Viscaria ?) and has a low throw angle, is that true ?

lapiskamay · Sep 28, 2022

Rinforzando said:
Any other reviews ? I heard that the blade is quite stiff (is it stiffer than a Viscaria ?) and has a low throw angle, is that true ?

Ovtcharov innerforce is stiffer than the Viscaria. I used both blade and I think Ovtcharov has a slightly higher arc angle than viscaria in my case.

LHDuy · Oct 10, 2022

I have an intend to combine it with Hurricane 3 Neo, will it work? Usually people will combine it with Viscaria

Phan Le Minh · Sep 17, 2023

This pro version will be even more amazing

kapahoo · Dec 30, 2023

Does anyone know how the shape of the heads of Ovtcharov/Harimoto blades differ from classic Butterfly blades (boll, viscaria etc).
The measurements are one thing but where are the added width added?

Jeff39 · Dec 30, 2023

kapahoo said:
Does anyone know how the shape of the heads of Ovtcharov/Harimoto blades differ from classic Butterfly blades (boll, viscaria etc).
The measurements are one thing but where are the added width added?

152x158 vs 150x157, Ovtcharov feels little heavy to the head

kapahoo · Dec 30, 2023

Jeff39 said:
152x158 vs 150x157, Ovtcharov feels little heavy to the head

Thanks!

I guess what I really wanted to know is - do the bigger heads have the same shape, just bigger, or is something else different? They could have made it more egg shaped, wider overall or something like that.
The Ovtcharov blade is quite thick so it should have been more tilted to the head anyway. (Given that everything else is the same.)

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