Back to Forum
Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst 1234
Results 61 to 73 of 73
  1. dajdosta is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Advanced TTD Member 112 221
    D
    dajdosta is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Advanced TTD Member 221 112

    User Info Menu


    Jun 2019
    Croatia
    221
    112
    100
    Read 0 Reviews
    #61
    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    No. We can win by swinging faster and becoming better because we are not at a level where improving in skill give you no significant advantage against your opponents. For pros, they swing hard to begin with, and use the booster to achieve over the top. For us, we swing harder or use boosters so we don’t have to swing that hard. You don’t understand the concept here.

    Yes, I agree. Boosters make us better players.

    The Following 2 Users Like dajdosta's Post:

    lodro and PingBirdPong


  2. lodro is offline
    says TT-CLOWN, old git
     
    Elite TTD Member 431 1,128
    L
    lodro is offline
    says TT-CLOWN, old git
     
    Elite TTD Member 1,128 431

    User Info Menu

    #62
    Quote Originally Posted by dajdosta

    Yes, I agree. Boosters make us better players.

    not me, I drank a whole little bottle of seamoon booster but i still suck at TT

    The Following 2 Users Like lodro's Post:

    Gozo and PingBirdPong


  3. PingBirdPong is offline
    says Verified Cheater, Banned by ITTF :)
     
    Senior TTD Member 301 554
    PingBirdPong's Avatar
    PingBirdPong is offline
    says Verified Cheater, Banned by ITTF :)
     
    Senior TTD Member 554 301
    #63
    Quote Originally Posted by lodro

    not me, I drank a whole little bottle of seamoon booster but i still suck at TT

    “911, what’s your emergency?”
    Modestly, Leo

  4. brokenball is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Elite TTD Member 506 1,128
    B
    brokenball is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Elite TTD Member 1,128 506

    User Info Menu

    #64
    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    But doesn’t friction NOT depend on contact area and only depend on pressure and smoothness?
    NO! It depends on the material involved.
    https://www.engineersedge.com/coeffi...f_friction.htm
    Do you see area in these equations?
    Do you see pressure in these equations?
    The idea of pressure isn't completely wrong though. It would equate to friction force per square centimeter or something like that. The problem that a softer sponge will have a MUCH lower impact force for two reasons.
    1. The ball that hits the softer sponge has more distance to sink into the sponge before it is stopped so the deceleration forces is weaker.
    2. The ball that hits the softer sponge will have its weaker deceleration force spread over a greater area.
    The problem is not linear.
    The coefficient of friction is multiplied by the force at every point the ball makes contact with the rubber.
    This requires some complex math to work out.

    Hard rubbers will not let the ball sink into the rubber very far so the deceleration forces are greater than with soft rubbers. Also the harder rubber will not let the ball sink is as far so the contact area is less.
    The impact forces might be greater but there is less area. Which would create more friction would require modeling the hard and soft rubbers.

  5. brokenball is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Elite TTD Member 506 1,128
    B
    brokenball is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Elite TTD Member 1,128 506

    User Info Menu

    #65
    Quote Originally Posted by lodro

    not me, I drank a whole little bottle of seamoon booster but i still suck at TT

    This made me laugh.

  6. Tony's Table Tennis is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 2,610 3,869
    T
    Tony's Table Tennis is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 3,869 2,610

    User Info Menu


    Sep 2013
    South Africa
    3,869
    2,610
    8938
    Read 3 Reviews
    #66
    Quote Originally Posted by lodro

    not me, I drank a whole little bottle of seamoon booster but i still suck at TT

    I think you should check your source. you may have a counterfeit...

    let it set for 24 hours, and you will be spinning like crazy

    TTT

  7. Gozo is online now
    says May the Spin be with you!
     
    Senior TTD Member 403 650
    Gozo's Avatar
    Gozo is online now
    says May the Spin be with you!
     
    Senior TTD Member 650 403
    #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony's Table Tennis

    I've given up on the terminology on forums.
    I just make sure my students understands what I want from them.
    Have to say, Chinese has deeper meaning than English words, so sorry to the ones using English.

    To further strengthen your point Tony, this internet coach term for block looks like BH topspin / drive to me. One coach may say block but in another part of the world it would be called drive. So term is truly confusing. What I would call a BH drive is called a block by another person....


  8. dajdosta is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Advanced TTD Member 112 221
    D
    dajdosta is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Advanced TTD Member 221 112

    User Info Menu


    Jun 2019
    Croatia
    221
    112
    100
    Read 0 Reviews
    #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Gozo

    To further strengthen your point Tony, this internet coach term for block looks like BH topspin / drive to me. One coach may say block but in another part of the world it would be called drive. So term is truly confusing. What I would call a BH drive is called a block by another person....

    Most common term for this type of shot in the video in my experience is counter.

  9. Tony's Table Tennis is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 2,610 3,869
    T
    Tony's Table Tennis is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 3,869 2,610

    User Info Menu


    Sep 2013
    South Africa
    3,869
    2,610
    8938
    Read 3 Reviews
    #69

    too many terms haha. So I need to becareful not to confuse myself and confuse others.

    In Chinese, active block by those Chinese players:

    1) Quick bring forward (drive/counter), small action, with low arc to bring the ball forward. relies on incoming power and pushing it back out with a forward motion.

    2) The kid has passive block then small counter topspin - that isn't a block to me. Its an attacking shot.

    3) Then FZD's bh to bh is really just driving the ball, that is not a block too.

    TTT

  10. Gozo is online now
    says May the Spin be with you!
     
    Senior TTD Member 403 650
    Gozo's Avatar
    Gozo is online now
    says May the Spin be with you!
     
    Senior TTD Member 650 403
    #70
    Also to point out more inconsistencies in using term across different clubs, and this happens to me:

    During the early stages of my coaching, my coach will say, "don't push, topspin the ball back to me"

    To me pushing means contact the bottom of a ball and impart underspin and it is an defending response.

    To him, the term push is kind of block with a little forward motion ( baby BH punch ).

    To my coach, a push he calls a cut or cutting the ball. Imagine the first few lessons it was awkward as we both had to get some of the term right... LOL ha ha ha.

    Also, he does not understand the word drive. He just call them topspin with forward acceleration. Of course in our native language it is not wordy.

    A loop is called from bottom up topspin.

    Oh the misery! We had to have few lessons just to get our term correct and house in order.



  11. PingBirdPong is offline
    says Verified Cheater, Banned by ITTF :)
     
    Senior TTD Member 301 554
    PingBirdPong's Avatar
    PingBirdPong is offline
    says Verified Cheater, Banned by ITTF :)
     
    Senior TTD Member 554 301
    #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Gozo
    Also to point out more inconsistencies in using term across different clubs, and this happens to me:

    During the early stages of my coaching, my coach will say, "don't push, topspin the ball back to me"

    To me pushing means contact the bottom of a ball and impart underspin and it is an defending response.

    To him, the term push is kind of block with a little forward motion ( baby BH punch ).

    To my coach, a push he calls a cut or cutting the ball. Imagine the first few lessons it was awkward as we both had to get some of the term right... LOL ha ha ha.

    Also, he does not understand the word drive. He just call them topspin with forward acceleration. Of course in our native language it is not wordy.

    A loop is called from bottom up topspin.

    Oh the misery! We had to have few lessons just to get our term correct and house in order.
    We should have a standard “TT language” on this forum. Make a post and stick it on top. Should have specific words referring to every major move in TT. 😆
    Modestly, Leo

  12. Tony's Table Tennis is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 2,610 3,869
    T
    Tony's Table Tennis is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 3,869 2,610

    User Info Menu


    Sep 2013
    South Africa
    3,869
    2,610
    8938
    Read 3 Reviews
    #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Gozo
    Also to point out more inconsistencies in using term across different clubs, and this happens to me:

    During the early stages of my coaching, my coach will say, "don't push, topspin the ball back to me"

    To me pushing means contact the bottom of a ball and impart underspin and it is an defending response.

    To him, the term push is kind of block with a little forward motion ( baby BH punch ).

    To my coach, a push he calls a cut or cutting the ball. Imagine the first few lessons it was awkward as we both had to get some of the term right... LOL ha ha ha.

    Also, he does not understand the word drive. He just call them topspin with forward acceleration. Of course in our native language it is not wordy.

    A loop is called from bottom up topspin.

    Oh the misery! We had to have few lessons just to get our term correct and house in order.

    oh my goodness. I recall some people do call it cutting the ball.
    I haven't heard that for 20+ years haha

    The Following User Likes Tony's Table Tennis's Post:

    PingBirdPong

    TTT

  13. PingBirdPong is offline
    says Verified Cheater, Banned by ITTF :)
     
    Senior TTD Member 301 554
    PingBirdPong's Avatar
    PingBirdPong is offline
    says Verified Cheater, Banned by ITTF :)
     
    Senior TTD Member 554 301
    #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony's Table Tennis

    oh my goodness. I recall some people do call it cutting the ball.
    I haven't heard that for 20+ years haha

    In China “cutting the ball” means something like a chop block🤣🤣🤣

    I can see why Chinese coaches are constantly angry with foreigners.

    Modestly, Leo

Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst 1234

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Create a new Topic:
Title is required.