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05-01-2022 1651398928 #1
Picking up Butterfly Lin Gaoyuan ALC
Would like to get some pointers on rubbers to use on this.
Been looking to try something new and don't want to use super hard rubbers prefer a tad more towards medium to hard.
So was looking on rasanter 47 on BH and 50 on FH
Or also looked at stiga dna pro M
Don't want to bouncy rubbers prefer a bit more control and I'll make the rest work.
But if anyone has some good pointers as also does anyone know if the arch is mid or low on the blade?
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This user has no status.This user has no status.05-01-2022 1651399859 #2
Personally, I think a rasanter is not a great choice if you want "a bit more control".
And a Lin Gaoyuan ALC is not the slowest blade either.
If you like Andro, I suggest you consider a Hexer PowerGrip.
There's a good review here: https://blog.tabletennis11.com/hexergripandpowergrip
Max hardness for this rubber is however 47,5.
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05-01-2022 1651401227 #3
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This user has no status.This user has no status.05-02-2022 1651482989 #6
Also love this blade. I have 2. My original set up of H3 blue pro aand D05. Second blade has H3 Orange with D05.
previously used Apolonia, IFLALC, Harimoto ALC, Mizutani ZLC. Really loving the LGY the most. It’s fast but not super fast but this is also dependant on rubbers used, it has great control and has a softer feeling than Viscaria which is similar construction.
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Stiga DNA Pro M is definitely a good pick for BH, I've been using it on a Viscaria after trying a BTY D05 (for fun, was way über too much difficult to handle of course hahaha), and then I was sold ! probably the best 47/48° BH mid rubber out there, you can generate mid arc but also high arc depending on the blade you use: very comfortable and safety net clearance, very versatile rubber, easy to serve with, loop, loop kill, receives are easy, backspin, passive or agressive blocks, defense, way more user friendly than the Rasanter rubbers even for amateur/beginner (1.9mm thickness in that case). I use it now on ALL+/OFF- blades, pairs really well with all wood 5 or 7 ply OFF- blades (Stiga Clipper or Xiom Offensive S in my case). Way less bouncy than the Rasanter as you're asking for that specific requirement.
It's durable, way more than the Rasanter rubbers I've also used.
And it's possible to pick it cheaper when TT11 does weekly promotions
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05-02-2022 1651489777 #9
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05-02-2022 1651491496 #10
Ok seems like the blade I'm looking for.
May I throw in a curve ball and also ask your opinion of this one[h3]Nittaku Acoustic Carbon or nittaku acoustic carbon inner[/h3]
Read alot and it's also a contender in my opinion want to order a new racket today
So I'm thinking stiga Dna Pro M för BH and nittaku fastarc on FH.
Think that will be a good compromiseLast edited by Zion; 05-02-2022 at 12:02 PM.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.05-02-2022 1651502492 #12
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05-03-2022 1651560855 #13
Bought a slightly different racket yesterday.
A butterfly Zhang Jike ALC with Stiga dna pro M on BH and nittaku fastarc G-1 2.1 on FH. Let's see how these rubbers perform on this racket.The Following User Likes Zion's Post:
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This user has no status.This user has no status.05-03-2022 1651572796 #14
Hope you'll enjoy the DNA Pro M as much as I did on a Viscaria
To me, ZJK ALC or LGY ALC are only signature versions of the Viscaria, those players were notorious for using Viscaria as the vast majority of the CNT members, even a regular (not "Golden") one for ZJK. If really there are some differences, I don't think it's that much noticeable. Even BTY rates those blades exactly the same on its chart, the TB ALC being different because of its slightly different design.The Following User Likes OldUser's Post:
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05-07-2022 1651936947 #15
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This user has no status.This user has no status.05-07-2022 1651939405 #16
I recently sold my Lin Gaoyuan ALC to a friend at the local club, she picked Stiga DNA Platinum M, and Butterfly Tenergy 19. She plays in NCTTA, and has a 2100-2200 USATT rating if I remember correctly.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.05-08-2022 1652026963 #17
I would trust you if you believed there were some differences between recent blades and old ones. I've tested a black tag TB Spirit for example, ad I was surprised how it was controlable, but that's kind of normal: a new blade is always faster than the same being 4 or 5 years older, and 5 grams doesn't affect that much the sensations : I'm a musician since I'm a child, I can tell you that a 7 or 8% difference in a Dunlop .88 mm nylon plectrum weight does not affect that much the feeling and the strokes on a guitar... no guitar legend weights his plectrums before putting them in his pocket or on the mike's stand, the thickness of the material, directly related to its flexibility so, matters way much than the weight.
Jia Nan Yuan recently switched to a Golden Viscaria because her old TB Spirit was indeed becoming... slow, and she needed more power. Her recent successful matches , either in mixed doubles or single vs Mima Ito, prove her right. I've also seen her training IRL with a regular Viscaria vs french pro A guys (her husband being the RPB chinese player Chen Tian Yuan, ranked french n°6) and she didn't seem to complain about any difference in feeling. Maybe a slower version with the regular Viscaria was helping her controlling the men's power... ?
I've also tested a 2 years old LGY too, it felt similar to my Viscaria, it was 5 grams lighter than my 92 grams visca... I've tested a quite new TB ALC also at the same time, no really big differences, maybe the handle... maybe stiffer... only the top pros can feel any difference, I could because I'm familiar with wood reactions and vibrations because of my music training since 40+ years, but it's seriously difficult to tell how it translates into TT for an amateur player like I am.
As in music instrument, how the wood ages is by far way more important.
The rest to me is... a fancy hype for EJs.Last edited by OldUser; 05-08-2022 at 04:25 PM.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.05-15-2022 1652642387 #18
You can check out Tibhar MXD and or Tibhar Audis Prime. Both are very good for either FH or BH..
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