Performing the Falkenberg Drill

Originally Posted by lodro

Brilliant performances.
Of course living in a provincial town of a 3rd world country I never even saw multi-ball done in our clubs.
My only exercise is with my robot.

I wonder if in this Falkenberg drill the feed is known to the receiver and is always the same routine or will the coach try to
catch you out by serving "unpredictable"

I kindof bought the habit of multi ball training to South Africa.
together with that, I also imported my own branded balls - half the price of any quality brands, and of the same quality too.
But mutliball is still not used enough, maybe people can't feed properly.

The quality of training partners is low, so training is limited in terms of quality and number of hits in a rally.
So multiball is crucial to push the player far enough to improve.

Most multiball or fixed drill feed - the receiver knows what is coming.
For advance players, the coaches could add a surprise here or there, or also push/place a ball into a more uncomfortable position.

There is a danger to moving too early, because it is not realistic.
So the feed needs to also be correctly paced and slowed down a bit to go for those wider angle balls.

I tried to promote the culture of multiball, get 2 or 3 players in a group, and then you have your training group.
1 feed, 1 hit, 1 pick up balls.

Originally Posted by Tony's Table Tennis

cross over is feet - correct, same as pivot is a footwork.
we say pivot fh, cross over wide fh etc.

maybe for beginners, I may need to be more clear on the terminologies.
but for any one with former training, I think the above terms should be easily understood

Different nationality different terminology. For instantaneous on this forum all strokes with topspin are called loops. For me a loop must have have dominant spin on the scale for spin/speed ratio. Actually in the old days almost only brushed hits were considered loops. All other strokes with topspin were called drives. Not to mention all the Chinese terminology…

Cheers
L-zr

In my club it’s reserved for payed sessions with a trainer. Most session are too crowded, so it’s not convenient. Anyway I think it’s a bit overrated when I’m just there for having fun and a bit of exercise. I can compete anyway.

Cheers
L-zr

Originally Posted by Lazer

Different nationality different terminology. For instantaneous on this forum all strokes with topspin are called loops. For me a loop must have have dominant spin on the scale for spin/speed ratio. Actually in the old days almost only brushed hits were considered loops. All other strokes with topspin were called drives. Not to mention all the Chinese terminology…

Cheers
L-zr

I'm talking feet, you talking hand since my first post.
Footwork has no conflicting names in many countries I've been to.
pivot is the same, cross over is the same.

Someone else already explained above, you can't pivot and then 2 side steps to the wide forehand
It is too old school, too slow.
Today's game, is to cross over step to reach a far ball.

If the multiball feed in OP was top spin feed, or if it was a right hander feed, placing the far fh at an angle, how can you get to it without cross over?

Nope never heard crossover before. I’ve been doing this for almost 50 years.

Originally Posted by Lazer

Nope never heard crossover before. I’ve been doing this for almost 50 years.

that is very sad then
table tennis has evolved a lot, so have a lot of skills sets, especially footwork.

So if you can't cross over to attack a wide forehand,
what do you teach the players there by you?

Go over and scoop the ball in the air and start playing a lobbing game?

Originally Posted by Tony's Table Tennis

that is very sad then
table tennis has evolved a lot, so have a lot of skills sets, especially footwork.

So if you can't cross over to attack a wide forehand,
what do you teach the players there by you?

Go over and scoop the ball in the air and start playing a lobbing game?

Or attack with BH… I don’t teach anybody anything and what the kids are thought today I have no idea. Not interested really…
You should check out the veterans World Cup that is ongoing and see how grown ups play…

Originally Posted by Lazer

Or attack with BH… I don’t teach anybody anything and what the kids are thought today I have no idea. Not interested really…
You should check out the veterans World Cup that is ongoing and see how grown ups play…

attack with BH on the far forehand side?
okay, i'm starting to think you are joking with me.
sure, let me check the grown ups play, especially that BH on the far FH side.

Originally Posted by Tony's Table Tennis

attack with BH on the far forehand side?
okay, i'm starting to think you are joking with me.
sure, let me check the grown ups play, especially that BH on the far FH side.

No we were talking about cross over to get to play FH from the BH side and I said crossover is a recipe for disaster.

Originally Posted by SofaChamp

No, playing a FH from the BH side is called a pivot.

When your opponent plays the next ball to your wide FH side, the footwork that you can then do to get to it is called crossover footwork (or cross-step).

And that’s what I call a recipe for disaster (for myself).

Originally Posted by latej

Are you telling me, that I can "cross over"??? No Lazer, I'm telling you, when you are ready, you won't have to

😀 😁This discussion is silly. You can get Your answer by looking at the posted videos. This will tell you who is in any shape to perform this “acrobatic circus act” 😜

Cheers
L-zr

Originally Posted by Gozo

Lazer,

Just curious, if cross over is undesirable for you to play a wide FH shot whilst you are at the far BH corner, what method of locomotion do you do to recover to get that wide FH return?

some guessing

1. watch the ball go pass
2. use two side stepping movement to get to a position, but will be too slow and late, but maybe can try and lob the ball back/scoop the ball in and start being in a defensive position
3. learn cross over step