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    Boosters for Chinese rubbers

    I'm getting back and forth answers on another post about whether I should use a booster or not on an H3. If I was going to get a booster, which one should it be? Dian chi, seamoon?
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    I'm getting back and forth answers on another post about whether I should use a booster or not on an H3. If I was going to get a booster, which one should it be? Dian chi, seamoon?
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    Seamoon is the most popular, you can start with it to have a reference model.
    The goal here is to make your H3 easier to play, not necessarily more powerful.


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    I've boosted H3 all my life. Seamoon is the way to go. Go with the commercial version first. The national version shortens the life too much for the gain of power.

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    A nice comparison of boosters can be found here https://blog.tabletennis11.com/revie...based-boosters
    Start with Haifu Seamoon or Falco Tempo Long

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFF_lib
    I've boosted H3 all my life. Seamoon is the way to go. Go with the commercial version first. The national version shortens the life too much for the gain of power.

    my i ask : Have you ever experienced , maybe after several boostings, that it simply stopped workin ?
    I've got a black H3 commercial that might have been reboosted a couple of times but now any amount of
    layers of seamoon applied will not dome the rubber anymore.

    btw. i forgot to add that the rubber is perfectly playable.

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    my i ask : Have you ever experienced , maybe after several boostings, that it simply stopped workin ?
    I've got a black H3 commercial that might have been reboosted a couple of times but now any amount of
    layers of seamoon applied will not dome the rubber anymore.

    Boosting= shorter lifespan
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    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    Boosting= shorter lifespan

    fair enough but i forgot to add that the rubber is perfectly playable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lodro

    my i ask : Have you ever experienced , maybe after several boostings, that it simply stopped workin ? I've got a black H3 commercial that might have been reboosted a couple of times but now any amount of layers of seamoon applied will not dome the rubber anymore.

    Boosting stretches the topsheet, and eventually the topsheet will stretch out with time. Thus, no more doming, as doming is caused by expanded sponge vs tight unstretched topsheet)

    The sponge can expand more with extra boostings to re-tension the topsheet, but eventually reaches a saturation point (for example, Seamoon national yellow can do about three reapplications).

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    -- Igor, why do you attack boosters like a drunk bull?
    -- Boosters is dope of a kind, and dope is a shitty stuff anyway..

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    Quote Originally Posted by igorponger
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    -- Igor, why do you attack boosters like a drunk bull?
    -- Boosters is dope of a kind, and dope is a shitty stuff anyway..

    And $80 Tenergy is theft. Rubber manufacturers use all sorts of chemicals to make rubbers, why can't I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by igorponger
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    -- Igor, why do you attack boosters like a drunk bull?
    -- Boosters is dope of a kind, and dope is a shitty stuff anyway..

    It isn't the first time I notice how well informed about drugs this person is

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    Seamoon after drying leaves a layer of latex. I always peel it off, that is why I always put the glue after. Some of you leaves this layer of latex or do same as I do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliastheaka
    Seamoon after drying leaves a layer of latex. I always peel it off, that is why I always put the glue after. Some of you leaves this layer of latex or do same as I do?

    I use the normal yellow standard seamoon and it most definitely does not leave any residue or layer .
    Also , there is no latex in seamoon, unless you do not talk about the seamoon booster but the seamoon glue.


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    I use this one and I can assure you that after I have sprayed 3 layers and let them dried there is a layer of something. Almost transparent and if you not rub the sponge you may not see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lodro

    my i ask : Have you ever experienced , maybe after several boostings, that it simply stopped workin ?
    I've got a black H3 commercial that might have been reboosted a couple of times but now any amount of
    layers of seamoon applied will not dome the rubber anymore.

    btw. i forgot to add that the rubber is perfectly playable.

    Yup that’s the case. Once the energy of the sponge is used up, further boosting will not curl the rubber at all.


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    Composition of Seamoon according to MSDS
    SECTION 3. Composition / information on ingredients
    The difference between the single product and mixture: Mixture
    Substance name Conc. (%) CAS.
    Natural Rubber 60% CAS 9006-04-6
    Ethylenediamine 40% CAS 107-15-3

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    Composition of Seamoon according to MSDS
    SECTION 3. Composition / information on ingredients
    The difference between the single product and mixture: Mixture
    Substance name Conc. (%) CAS.
    Natural Rubber 60% CAS 9006-04-6
    Ethylenediamine 40% CAS 107-15-3

    Interesting... According to Wikipedia ethylenediamine has an "ammonia-like odor". Either it does not smell when mixed with natural rubber or my Seamoon, which worked great, had a different composition or was a fake...
    "Safety Ethylenediamine, like ammonia and other low-molecular weight amines, is a skin and respiratory irritant. Unless tightly contained, liquid ethylenediamine will release toxic and irritating vapors into its surroundings, especially on heating. The vapors absorb moisture from humid air to form a characteristic white mist, which is extremely irritating to skin, eyes, lungs and mucus membranes." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylenediamine
    Maybe I should go back to my homemade booster (paraffin oil and/or d-limonene (lemon or orange oil)) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliastheaka
    I use this one and I can assure you that after I have sprayed 3 layers and let them dried there is a layer of something. Almost transparent and if you not rub the sponge you may not see it.

    OK, this is the same stuff i use so i stand corrected. But yes, I admit once i have applied the stuff I do not rub it and look for anything, I simply cover the stuff with glue .

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