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    Hugo Calderano HAL is currently a good option?

    Hello, i am interested to buy a new blade and i have read that it's a good option for me but I wanted to know if it is really worth or if there are better options.
    I am looking for a blade that has good control, good feedback and reasonable speed(off).

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    who told you that it would be a good option for you specifically ? How long are you playing for and at what level ?

    They blade may be decent and controllable if you compare it with other carbon blades, but if we would simply look at your requirements beeing good control, good feedback and reasonable speed a carbon blade would probably not be the first that comes to mind. If you only need reasonable speed, you dont need anything but an all wood blade (be it 5 or 7 ply).

    If you want control and feel many people consider the Nittaku Violin blade a pretty well controlled and good feeling blade. It is around 150€.
    If you want to go cheaper you can also go for Yasaka Sweden Extra or a Donic Appelgren Allplay. Both are good controllable blades.


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    It is indeed a good blade. A very good blade.
    If it is good for you, I think its a 50-50 call

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    Quote Originally Posted by jk1980

    who told you that it would be a good option for you specifically ? How long are you playing for and at what level ?

    They blade may be decent and controllable if you compare it with other carbon blades, but if we would simply look at your requirements beeing good control, good feedback and reasonable speed a carbon blade would probably not be the first that comes to mind. If you only need reasonable speed, you dont need anything but an all wood blade (be it 5 or 7 ply).

    If you want control and feel many people consider the Nittaku Violin blade a pretty well controlled and good feeling blade. It is around 150€.
    If you want to go cheaper you can also go for Yasaka Sweden Extra or a Donic Appelgren Allplay. Both are good controllable blades.

    Thanks, I based my decision reading forums since in my country there is no way to test blades. I am an intermediate level player, but I want to improve so I want a blade with better feedback than the one I currently have Fang Bo Carbon, I read in forums that the HAL is for all player levels and has what I am looking for control and good feedback I don't really care about speed.

    I also had that blade in mind along with the acoustic but I don't know which one to choose. I have also tried the nittaku acoustic inner and I like it. Is there much difference with the allwood version?

    PS sorry for my English I don't know how to express myself in this language as I would like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jk1980

    who told you that it would be a good option for you specifically ? How long are you playing for and at what level ?

    They blade may be decent and controllable if you compare it with other carbon blades, but if we would simply look at your requirements beeing good control, good feedback and reasonable speed a carbon blade would probably not be the first that comes to mind. If you only need reasonable speed, you dont need anything but an all wood blade (be it 5 or 7 ply).

    If you want control and feel many people consider the Nittaku Violin blade a pretty well controlled and good feeling blade. It is around 150€.
    If you want to go cheaper you can also go for Yasaka Sweden Extra or a Donic Appelgren Allplay. Both are good controllable blades.

    Thanks, I based my decision reading forums since in my country there is no way to test blades. I am an intermediate level player, but I want to improve so I want a blade with better feedback than the one I currently have Fang Bo Carbon, I read in forums that the HAL is for all player levels and has what I am looking for control and good feedback I don't really care about speed.

    I also had that blade in mind along with the acoustic but I don't know which one to choose. I have also tried the nittaku acoustic inner and I like it. Is there much difference with the allwood version?

    PS sorry for my English I don't know how to express myself in this language as I would like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozano

    Thanks, I based my decision reading forums since in my country there is no way to test blades. I am an intermediate level player, but I want to improve so I want a blade with better feedback than the one I currently have Fang Bo Carbon, I read in forums that the HAL is for all player levels and has what I am looking for control and good feedback I don't really care about speed.

    If you are already coming from an carbon blade, the HAL could indeed give you what want, if reviews are to be trusted. That would probably only be a marginal change though, since there is a pretty big chasm between the average carbon blade and the full wood blades

    I also had that blade in mind along with the acoustic but I don't know which one to choose. I have also tried the nittaku acoustic inner and I like it. Is there much difference with the allwood version?

    I gotta preface that i am only a very interested beginner and probably read more about table tennis than many people that played for 30 years already.
    Indeed i already tried several different blades and the latest three were the Nittaku Violin in 87g, a Nittaku Violin Inner Carbon in 84g and the Nittaku Acoustic 86g.
    Between the Nittaku VIolin and the inner Carbon Violin i could not even tell a big difference in feeling (which is good, since the inner Carbon one does not feel worse to me). What i could notice and test though, that the inner Carbon had more speed/catapult (both using the same rubber Nittaku FastArc G-1 in 1.8mm) even when passively played. I think you can even test that easily by doing a drop test next to each other and see if the ball already bounces higher on one of them, even though there is only the force of the ball falling from 50cm onto the stationary blade, you can already see the inner carbon being about 10 - 20% more bouncy. I like both Violins very much, but today i bought a used Acoustic and glued on a FastArc G-1 in 2.0mm on it. I compared it with the regular all wood Violin for 2 hours with my Roboter with different drills. Now i can not 100% tell if it is just the blade or the thicker sponge of the G-1 or the combination of both, but wow: I have never been able to play such spinny topspins like with the Acoustig with the G-1 in 2.0mm. You basically can even here it that i brush the ball so light that it makes a very low thumb-sound.

    I have read that the Violin is allegedly more stiff than the Flexy acoustic and according to reviews that would mean that the Acoustic would benefit from "harder" rubbers like the G-1 more, than the Violin. Indeed was the Violin pretty enjoyable with the Tibhar Evolution EL-S, which is kinda 46° compared to the G-1's 47'5° hardness.

    Since the test between the regular Violin and the Acoustic did not show the Acoustic to be less controllable, i will play with that one from now on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozano

    I read in forums that the HAL is for all player levels and has what I am looking for control and good feedback I don't really care about speed.

    Compared to any carbon blade (that I know) the HAL will give you more of an all wood feeling. The feedback is excellent, however "control" is something only you can feel. If the blade supports your shots at any speed you might call that controlled, while other people use control in a linear relationship with speed, where slow is controlled. So, the HAL is not slow, but I feel it´s very supportive/"controlled".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jk1980
    If you are already coming from an carbon blade, the HAL could indeed give you what want, if reviews are to be trusted. That would probably only be a marginal change though, since there is a pretty big chasm between the average carbon blade and the full wood blades

    I gotta preface that i am only a very interested beginner and probably read more about table tennis than many people that played for 30 years already.
    Indeed i already tried several different blades and the latest three were the Nittaku Violin in 87g, a Nittaku Violin Inner Carbon in 84g and the Nittaku Acoustic 86g.
    Between the Nittaku VIolin and the inner Carbon Violin i could not even tell a big difference in feeling (which is good, since the inner Carbon one does not feel worse to me). What i could notice and test though, that the inner Carbon had more speed/catapult (both using the same rubber Nittaku FastArc G-1 in 1.8mm) even when passively played. I think you can even test that easily by doing a drop test next to each other and see if the ball already bounces higher on one of them, even though there is only the force of the ball falling from 50cm onto the stationary blade, you can already see the inner carbon being about 10 - 20% more bouncy. I like both Violins very much, but today i bought a used Acoustic and glued on a FastArc G-1 in 2.0mm on it. I compared it with the regular all wood Violin for 2 hours with my Roboter with different drills. Now i can not 100% tell if it is just the blade or the thicker sponge of the G-1 or the combination of both, but wow: I have never been able to play such spinny topspins like with the Acoustig with the G-1 in 2.0mm. You basically can even here it that i brush the ball so light that it makes a very low thumb-sound.

    I have read that the Violin is allegedly more stiff than the Flexy acoustic and according to reviews that would mean that the Acoustic would benefit from "harder" rubbers like the G-1 more, than the Violin. Indeed was the Violin pretty enjoyable with the Tibhar Evolution EL-S, which is kinda 46° compared to the G-1's 47'5° hardness.

    Since the test between the regular Violin and the Acoustic did not show the Acoustic to be less controllable, i will play with that one from now on.

    I really appreciate your opinion, thank you very much for taking the time to answer me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jk1980

    who told you that it would be a good option for you specifically ? How long are you playing for and at what level ?

    They blade may be decent and controllable if you compare it with other carbon blades, but if we would simply look at your requirements beeing good control, good feedback and reasonable speed a carbon blade would probably not be the first that comes to mind. If you only need reasonable speed, you dont need anything but an all wood blade (be it 5 or 7 ply).

    If you want control and feel many people consider the Nittaku Violin blade a pretty well controlled and good feeling blade. It is around 150€.
    If you want to go cheaper you can also go for Yasaka Sweden Extra or a Donic Appelgren Allplay. Both are good controllable blades.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airoc
    Compared to any carbon blade (that I know) the HAL will give you more of an all wood feeling. The feedback is excellent, however "control" is something only you can feel. If the blade supports your shots at any speed you might call that controlled, while other people use control in a linear relationship with speed, where slow is controlled. So, the HAL is not slow, but I feel it´s very supportive/"controlled".

    Thanks for your answer, I had read that the blade felt similar to an allwood but not quite. So I will choose to buy it to clear my doubts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jk1980

    who told you that it would be a good option for you specifically ? How long are you playing for and at what level ?

    They blade may be decent and controllable if you compare it with other carbon blades, but if we would simply look at your requirements beeing good control, good feedback and reasonable speed a carbon blade would probably not be the first that comes to mind. If you only need reasonable speed, you dont need anything but an all wood blade (be it 5 or 7 ply).

    If you want control and feel many people consider the Nittaku Violin blade a pretty well controlled and good feeling blade. It is around 150€.
    If you want to go cheaper you can also go for Yasaka Sweden Extra or a Donic Appelgren Allplay. Both are good controllable blades.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony's Table Tennis

    It is indeed a good blade. A very good blade.
    If it is good for you, I think its a 50-50 call

    Thank you for your opinion I really appreciate it

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    Well, not many people in my country use it, but a pro player in Vietnam has won the SEA Games Mens single 2022 with that blade, with a pair of Xiom Omega 7 Tour i. You can check out Nguyen Duc Tuan on Youtube to see his style

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    I've just bought. I will write my opinions. I will use it with Fastarc G-1 and EL-P 😉

    Happy with my setup

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    Great, let us know how it works out for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lê Hoàng Long
    Well, not many people in my country use it, but a pro player in Vietnam has won the SEA Games Mens single 2022 with that blade, with a pair of Xiom Omega 7 Tour i. You can check out Nguyen Duc Tuan on Youtube to see his style

    I'm posting the video link for the match you referenced because the players, video quality, and crowd are all amazing:

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    I'm posting the video link for the match you referenced because the players, video quality, and crowd are all amazing:


    yes that's it, also I am the commentator to this match 😋

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    Hi, I played last weekend. The blade has good control, good speed. Sweet spot is large. You can do everything you want. You can see good sides of this blade when you hit the ball faster. Also short touches are good. I have played with viscaria to try before. I would say for Calderano HAL has similar charasteristics with more control.

    Question: Hugo Calderano HAL is currently a good optiion ?
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    I would go for the Calderano super Alc blade, 2 people from my club just bought it, incredible control and feeling, average speed
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