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    Older Butterfly Primorac Off- - Old or fake?


    I was just wondering if anyone knows what's up with the Primorac with the red-ish lense. The silver tags on the bottom of the handle are all the same older asymmetrical BTY logo with "Butterfly" written beneath.
    The silver-grey background also is NOT reflective or shiny, but looks printed on the red-ish one. Is it just older or simply fake?
    Couldn't find anything online and away help is appreciated 😁

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    #2
    It's not fake it's indeed an old era Primorac OFF-, with that kind of "glittery" lense, oval tag at the the bottom right ? like this https://tennis-de-table.s3.amazonaws...50448ef3d2.JPG


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    More of it, I think yours is a "classic" version from the 2000's, cos' it seems that the "Primorac Classic" inscription has been ripped https://mytabletennis.net/forum/fs-p...opic18760.html

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    it has the newer silver lense on the bottom, but the lense on the fh side looks like the post you linked AND the primorac classic inscription does seem to have been wiped off somehow.
    there surely was a period in which the primorac classic was available with the newer silver stamp on the bottom before they updated the plasic lense on fh side.
    Thank you so much for your help, appreciate it!

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    #5
    Yeah that "Primorac Classic" + oval tag (what you name silver stamp ?) is from the 2000's, I think it's because they were made in Europe, the Omar Assar blade has the same oval tag, as the Petr Korbel, and as all the euro made blade I know. But in the 90's those blades were made in Japan, hence the famous black tag.
    Different eras for the Korbel:

    90's made in Japan black tag
    https://ireland.apollo.olxcdn.com/v1...age;s=1000x750


    2000's same era as your Primorac, same tag, made in Europe so
    https://scontent.fcdg3-1.fna.fbcdn.n...IQ&oe=631F41F7


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    Can you show a photo of the bottom of the handle?
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    There has been some evolution in the euro oval tags used: the 2000's era tags had a more rounder relief and were darker with the "Butterfly" inscription under the asymetric wings logo , as the new euro oval tags are way more clear grey and flat, more squared, with no "Butterfly" inscription on it, and no asymetric wings logo.

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    Thanks for the pic, yep definitely a 2000's euro blade, looks a bit shinny still so maybe there has to be some variations between the darker euro tag on the 2000's Korbel I've shown and this 2000's "PC" you've got, maybe the darker ones are even older, and the shinnier more late 2000's ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kjell Willers

    Was the handle sealed? It looks like it may have been.

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    yes, the blades' surface is also sealed.


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    Well thank you guys for the help, I am now confident that this is a genuine BTY blade from the early 2000s.
    After my journey into faster blades (following the destruction of my original Primorac 😭) I may now return to this lovely blade

    Thanks again!

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    Those three Primorac blades you have should all play really nicely. And most important issue, in my book would be how the blade feels when you use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kjell Willers
    Well thank you guys for the help, I am now confident that this is a genuine BTY blade from the early 2000s.
    After my journey into faster blades (following the destruction of my original Primorac 😭) I may now return to this lovely blade

    Thanks again!

    De nada glad it helped 😉


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