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    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    Ummmmm….
    could someone please be nice and translate?
    thanks
    😂

    It is misspelled German.

    Det habe icke doch schon jesacht=I have already said that.
    ja dann lösches hoid=yes then delete hoid?
    hoid must be misspelled or slang. I don't know what word it should have been.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony
    I think it is too late now... there is no hope....
    There is hope. I see you are making a mistake that is very common. You are not starting with the paddle low enough.

    Look at the ball you hit at 1:00. You started your stroke at about the same height as the ball instead of below the ball. Basically you just slapped that ball right into the net. I call this scooping because your stroke is determined by rotation around you shoulder joint so the paddle makes a scooping motion where initially it is moving almost horizontally and forwards.
    The Chinese call a loop a 拉球 for a reason. If started with the paddle lower than the ball and coming up from behind it so the tangential friction between the ball and rubber pulls or drags the ball a little higher. It also adds more top spin which is necessary for the Magnus effect.
    This is a common mistake. I make it too.

    Here is a video where I make the same mistake at about 1:40. I didn't get
    my paddle low and swing up in a plane. Notice that most of the time I do it right with my FH. You can see that often I am making contact with the ball from below net height so an arc, a loop, is required to land the ball. It is a matter of getting the spin to speed ratio right.
    https://deltamotion.com/peter/TableT...ng%20c-pen.mp4
    I don't normally play c-pen but the physics doesn't change. I can see I made mistakes like rolling my wrist on FH strokes etc.
    I made the video in support of the c-pen thread. I think c-pen is as natural as shake hands. It is just what you get use too. Again, the physics doesn't change. One more thing. I am using a blade and rubbers where the total cost less than $100. You don't need boosting or the fastest blades or rubbers.


    As for being big. I would make Der Echte and Tinykin look small. It is a little harder to get below the ball when tall. Bending you knees and bending over a bit helps. Also my practice partner in the video is tall for being Chinese. He is the one that teaches me about China and escorts me around when I am in China but not for years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenball

    It is misspelled German.



    hoid must be misspelled or slang. I don't know what word it should have been.

    There is hope. I see you are making a mistake that is very common. You are not starting with the paddle low enough.

    Look at the ball you hit at 1:00. You started your stroke at about the same height as the ball instead of below the ball. Basically you just slapped that ball right into the net. I call this scooping because your stroke is determined by rotation around you shoulder joint so the paddle makes a scooping motion where initially it is moving almost horizontally and forwards.
    The Chinese call a loop a 拉球 for a reason. If started with the paddle lower than the ball and coming up from behind it so the tangential friction between the ball and rubber pulls or drags the ball a little higher. It also adds more top spin which is necessary for the Magnus effect.
    This is a common mistake. I make it too.

    Here is a video where I make the same mistake at about 1:40. I didn't get
    my paddle low and swing up in a plane. Notice that most of the time I do it right with my FH. You can see that often I am making contact with the ball from below net height so an arc, a loop, is required to land the ball. It is a matter of getting the spin to speed ratio right.
    https://deltamotion.com/peter/TableT...ng%20c-pen.mp4
    I don't normally play c-pen but the physics doesn't change. I can see I made mistakes like rolling my wrist on FH strokes etc.
    I made the video in support of the c-pen thread. I think c-pen is as natural as shake hands. It is just what you get use too. Again, the physics doesn't change. One more thing. I am using a blade and rubbers where the total cost less than $100. You don't need boosting or the fastest blades or rubbers.


    As for being big. I would make Der Echte and Tinykin look small. It is a little harder to get below the ball when tall. Bending you knees and bending over a bit helps. Also my practice partner in the video is tall for being Chinese. He is the one that teaches me about China and escorts me around when I am in China but not for years now.

    Thank you, I see that this is a part of the issue.

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Loop Willie
    I have never seen a Multi Bird training (in badminton) . 1:54 of the video
    Your TPH backhand is not bad. Tony is wrong. It is not too late for you. You can still try to learn RPH backhand

    Seriously, I have rarely seen a poster with a YouTube video, say as to who is who in the video. I have seen a few players say like "I am the one with green skirt & high heels" or something.

    I just look for the tallest guy

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    4th, get kicked out for hogging the court.😆

    I mean, the court costs 3 dollars an hour, I get what I get. But yes, a lot more room is needed.

    And yes, I need to deal with the fact that I have 4 active rackets of different structure and probably need to stick with the Boll alc and the 7-plys.
    Yes sir! Thank you sir!

    Just imagine if you hit the guy behind you or the next table
    it will cost way more than $3.

    Those small places, I would just train. Its not match friendly.
    I went to a place before and it was tiny, your place is worse.

    Here is a video of that place:



    The distance between table and table is "fair", but right side is a net - sure don't want to catch my bat in the net, broken bat is one thing, broken wrist is another.
    The other side is glass window - no ways I'm playing within 50cm from glass windows.
    you can see the 3rd video ends with ball going near the net, I just let it go.

    PS, i'm the one in orange.

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    Come on Thad good enough for training that’s about the space I have in one of my clubs.

    Cheers
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    Sorry for not reading every post in this thread, but I think you should just relax and give yourself at least 20hrs to recover to previous form.

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    #27

    I just said "i delete it then" cause Lodro said" already the same thing"
    and "hoid" is bavarian Slang for "halt"
    And we just wanted to cheer you up,casue TT is very mental.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto
    Sorry for not reading every post in this thread, but I think you should just relax and give yourself at least 20hrs to recover to previous form.

    20 hours per bat?

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Haraold

    I just said "i delete it then" cause Lodro said" already the same thing"
    and "hoid" is bavarian Slang for "halt"
    And we just wanted to cheer you up,casue TT is very mental.

    ..........and I have just tried to imitate a Berliner accent..............aber ich bin nicht ein Berliner, unlike president
    kennedy who claimed "Ich bin ein berliner" 😁

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    I see from your adjusted stroke. You were playing the game: who will break the glass first.

    For this game, I have some tips for you:
    1, push long to the bottom, allow him to use power loop to kill the ball. He will finally beak something behind him.
    2, push crosscourt, he will finally run into the guys at next table.

    Once those happened, no matter what was the score before then, you immediately win and the game is finished.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Lycanthrope
    I see from your adjusted stroke. You were playing the game: who will break the glass first.

    For this game, I have some tips for you:
    1, push long to the bottom, allow him to use power loop to kill the ball. He will finally beak something behind him.
    2, push crosscourt, he will finally run into the guys at next table.

    Once those happened, no matter what was the score before then, you immediately win and the game is finished.

    And in order to do all that one has to adopt the """killer attitude"""" instead of ""let's play a bit of ping pong """ 😁


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    #32
    I just looked at your second video. It is better. It would be better to see some playing for point rather than just hitting the ball back and forth.
    Can you make good strokes under time pressure? Obviously no one can all the time but that is what makes the game challenging. Also, listen to sound of the impact of the ball on the paddle. You are still hitting through the ball instead of brushing, pulling, the ball. As you brush the ball more and more the sound of impact goes down because the ball is hitting the paddle to more of an angle. When you make a very good brush the sound will be just that of the ball and rubber. That is hard to do consistently because it is easy to miss the ball. Another metric that lets you know if you are doing it right is that the ball will skip out low and fast at your opponent. When you do it very right the ball will dive out low below your opponent's paddle as he swings and misses due to misjudging the Magnus effect. Another indication you are looping well is that the opponent's return will go high because of the extra top spin.

    When practicing with my first coach I would get bored hitting the ball back and forth in your video. The FH to FH warm ups quickly became a contest of who could loop the best by making the other guy miss due to the ball going under his paddle or the return going high.

    A while back I made a pdf showing the effect of spin and the resulting Magnus effect on the ball. One can see the difference in the trajectory that even 10 revolutions per second make. You passed your school tests so answer this. How much faster must the tangential speed of the paddle be to achieve an extra 10 revolutions per second?



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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenball
    I just looked at your second video. It is better. It would be better to see some playing for point rather than just hitting the ball back and forth.
    Can you make good strokes under time pressure? Obviously no one can all the time but that is what makes the game challenging. Also, listen to sound of the impact of the ball on the paddle. You are still hitting through the ball instead of brushing, pulling, the ball. As you brush the ball more and more the sound of impact goes down because the ball is hitting the paddle to more of an angle. When you make a very good brush the sound will be just that of the ball and rubber. That is hard to do consistently because it is easy to miss the ball. Another metric that lets you know if you are doing it right is that the ball will skip out low and fast at your opponent. When you do it very right the ball will dive out low below your opponent's paddle as he swings and misses due to misjudging the Magnus effect. Another indication you are looping well is that the opponent's return will go high because of the extra top spin.

    When practicing with my first coach I would get bored hitting the ball back and forth in your video. The FH to FH warm ups quickly became a contest of who could loop the best by making the other guy miss due to the ball going under his paddle or the return going high.

    A while back I made a pdf showing the effect of spin and the resulting Magnus effect on the ball. One can see the difference in the trajectory that even 10 revolutions per second make. You passed your school tests so answer this. How much faster must the tangential speed of the paddle be to achieve an extra 10 revolutions per second?
    That’s not middle school physics for us😅
    sorry about that.
    I’ll try and do some research and see what I get.
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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    That’s not middle school physics for us😅
    sorry about that.
    I’ll try and do some research and see what I get.

    is he thinking its you in the 2nd video, meanwhile it is me????
    I mean, you posted 1 video. I posted 1 video.
    There is only 2 videos in this thread lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenball
    I just looked at your second video. It is better. It would be better to see some playing for point rather than just hitting the ball back and forth.
    Can you make good strokes under time pressure? Obviously no one can all the time but that is what makes the game challenging. Also, listen to sound of the impact of the ball on the paddle. You are still hitting through the ball instead of brushing, pulling, the ball. As you brush the ball more and more the sound of impact goes down because the ball is hitting the paddle to more of an angle. When you make a very good brush the sound will be just that of the ball and rubber. That is hard to do consistently because it is easy to miss the ball. Another metric that lets you know if you are doing it right is that the ball will skip out low and fast at your opponent. When you do it very right the ball will dive out low below your opponent's paddle as he swings and misses due to misjudging the Magnus effect. Another indication you are looping well is that the opponent's return will go high because of the extra top spin.

    When practicing with my first coach I would get bored hitting the ball back and forth in your video. The FH to FH warm ups quickly became a contest of who could loop the best by making the other guy miss due to the ball going under his paddle or the return going high.

    A while back I made a pdf showing the effect of spin and the resulting Magnus effect on the ball. One can see the difference in the trajectory that even 10 revolutions per second make. You passed your school tests so answer this. How much faster must the tangential speed of the paddle be to achieve an extra 10 revolutions per second?
    A wild guess but does an additional 2.512m/s sound in the ball park?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony's Table Tennis

    is he thinking its you in the 2nd video, meanwhile it is me????
    I mean, you posted 1 video. I posted 1 video.
    There is only 2 videos in this thread lol

    Huh…
    Maybe those people on Twitter are right, all Asians do look alike🤣😉
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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    Huh…
    Maybe those people on Twitter are right, all Asians do look alike🤣😉

    1 third of the world is Chinese looking
    another 1 third of the world is Indian looking
    need to open your eyes, other wise very easy to confuse 2 thirds of the world lol

    Well, based on the 2nd video, well done - big improvements in your shot quality to your first video
    If such an improvement can occur inside a few days.... you could start bragging about your EJ virus

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    #38
    Is it possible to move the bench behind the table too somwhere else?

    you guys should try to brush more, especially against backspin. No problem is if the opening loop is high, as long it goes on too the table.

    Edit: forgot too say that everyone feel that the level of play go up and down. Need to try to keep up the hard work.

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    #39
    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    Huh…
    Maybe those people on Twitter are right, all Asians do look alike🤣😉

    Special if they wearing masks ))))


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    Quote Originally Posted by PingBirdPong
    Huh…
    Maybe those people on Twitter are right, all Asians do look alike🤣😉

    If this came across as Racist I am deeply sry,i just wanted to cheer you up mate!

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