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In the current playing field nobody excels so much that they would do this I think. Especially nowadays many top-50 players can take games off top-10 players. So it would be incredibly hard to get a winning streak like that on an individual tournament. It was already crazy that Ma Long did it in the Teams WTTC, but in individual WTTC he will meet 2 of his Chinese teammates at least before he can win it all the way ;)
 
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If it has been done before, it is possible. But it is not that likely. In baseball they have what is called a perfect game. That is where a pitcher does not allow one base runner. No hits, not walks, no errors, nobody gets on base in any way. A no hitter is hard. A perfect game is very, very hard.

Here is a stat on perfect games from Wikipedia: "The feat has been achieved 21 times in the history of major league baseball—19 times since the modern era began in 1900."

In 1956 Don Larson pitched a perfect game in the World Series. We could ask, can anyone ever pitch a perfect game in the World Series again? Statistically, this is harder to pitch a perfect game than Waldner's not dropping one game in the World Championships of 1997. If you think about the fact that the baseball season has 162 games and there are 30 teams and over 112 years there have only been 19 perfect games. That means in approximately 500,000 chances there have been 19 perfect games (after doing the math I lowered the number to some extent since MLB used to have few games in a season and fewer teams). So it happens much more frequently that a player wins a tournament without dropping one game than perfect games occur. But, it could happen that someone pitches a perfect game in the World Series again.

So, yes, it is possible. Statistically, it is rare to win the World Championships without dropping a game. But, if a great player really gets on a roll, anything can happen.
 
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If it has been done before, it is possible. But it is not that likely. In baseball they have what is called a perfect game. That is where a pitcher does not allow one base runner. No hits, not walks, no errors, nobody gets on base in any way. A no hitter is hard. A perfect game is very, very hard.

Here is a stat on perfect games from Wikipedia: "The feat has been achieved 21 times in the history of major league baseball—19 times since the modern era began in 1900."

In 1956 Don Larson pitched a perfect game in the World Series. We could ask, can anyone ever pitch a perfect game in the World Series again? Statistically, this is harder to pitch a perfect game than Waldner's not dropping one game in the World Championships of 1997. If you think about the fact that the baseball season has 162 games and there are 30 teams and over 112 years there have only been 19 perfect games. That means in approximately 500,000 chances there have been 19 perfect games (after doing the math I lowered the number to some extent since MLB used to have few games in a season and fewer teams). So it happens much more frequently that a player wins a tournament without dropping one game than perfect games occur. But, it could happen that someone pitches a perfect game in the World Series again.

So, yes, it is possible. Statistically, it is rare to win the World Championships without dropping a game. But, if a great player really gets on a roll, anything can happen.

Im not very familiar with baseball, but I think a perfect game is only one match right? That means that you need only 1 weak opponent to achieve it. That is different from facing like 8 different opponents. Although for Ma Long the first 3-5 of those are always 4-0 wins. But I think both are so rare that you can't really put a number on it. It merely happens by 'coincidence'. I believe Ma Long was down 9-4 against Dima in one game. Usually Dima takes that game and the streak ends there. It shows that such an achievement is maybe not always a good measure of the actual performance. Maybe Ma Long played as well or better in other tournament, but lost a game like that.
So after all the statistic is great, but you buy nothing for it xD. Every win counts as a win, regardless if it is a 'perfect' win (3-0) or a close call.
 
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Im not very familiar with baseball, but I think a perfect game is only one match right? That means that you need only 1 weak opponent to achieve it. That is different from facing like 8 different opponents. Although for Ma Long the first 3-5 of those are always 4-0 wins. But I think both are so rare that you can't really put a number on it. It merely happens by 'coincidence'. I believe Ma Long was down 9-4 against Dima in one game. Usually Dima takes that game and the streak ends there. It shows that such an achievement is maybe not always a good measure of the actual performance. Maybe Ma Long played as well or better in other tournament, but lost a game like that.
So after all the statistic is great, but you buy nothing for it xD. Every win counts as a win, regardless if it is a 'perfect' win (3-0) or a close call.

A perfect game is like 27 matches in a row without losing one. In baseball, a team has nine players in the game and a bench full of backups, many of whom are specialists in certain aspects of the game. Statistically, a perfect game is more than 100 times rarer than a player winning a tournament without dropping a match. Getting a perfect game in the World Series would guarantee that no only is the opponent good, but the opponent is at least the second best team in baseball that year. There are so many ways of getting on base, in baseball. Statistically winning a tournament where you have to play 8-16 players and not dropping a game in the tournament would be closer to a baseball pitcher hitting a no hitter. A perfect game would be closer to a player not losing one point in a tournament. You know how the opponent could have that one lucky shot where they hit the edge or the net and get a point. Getting on base in baseball is like that. A perfect game would actually be statistically about as likely as someone going through the semifinals and finals of a tournament and not losing one point. The reason that never happens in Table Tennis though, is that, when someone is going to win 11-0 they usually give the opponent a point on purpose. :)
 
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With 162 games a year, and 30 teams, and in each game, each team has an opportunity to get a perfect game, the average is one perfect game every 6 years.

30 x 162 = 4860

4860 X 6 = 29,160

These statistics leave out playoff games so there are actually approximately 50 more games a year that are not included in those figures. :) And based on those figures above, a perfect game happens once every 29,160 tries.

That is much less frequently than a table tennis player going through a tournament and winning the entire tournament without dropping a game. That actually happens at least a few times a year in the pro tour. Ma Long definitely did it at least once in the last 9 months and he definitely played his Chinese teammates in the tournament that I know he won where he did not lose a match.
 
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With 162 games a year, and 30 teams, and in each game, each team has an opportunity to get a perfect game, the average is one perfect game every 6 years.

30 x 162 = 4860

4860 X 6 = 29,160

These statistics leave out playoff games so there are actually approximately 50 more games a year that are not included in those figures. :) And based on those figures above, a perfect game happens once every 29,160 tries.

That is much less frequently than a table tennis player going through a tournament and winning the entire tournament without dropping a game. That actually happens at least a few times a year in the pro tour. Ma Long definitely did it at least once in the last 9 months and he definitely played his Chinese teammates in the tournament that I know he won where he did not lose a match.

Ah, I still don't get it completely, but it starts to make sense :p I think the tournament u mean is the Swedish Open 2011, where he beat Kishi in the semis and Wang Hao in the finals.
 
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Ah, I still don't get it completely, but it starts to make sense :p I think the tournament u mean is the Swedish Open 2011, where he beat Kishi in the semis and Wang Hao in the finals.

Yeah. I guess, since you don't understand it, the baseball analogy does not work, but the baseball analogy I used, the perfect game, is super hard to do. It was only done once in a world series. :)

No matter, it is possible for someone to get on a roll and have a great tournament and not drop a match. Lets see if Zhang Jike can do that at the Olympics. :)
 
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Yeah. I guess, since you don't understand it, the baseball analogy does not work, but the baseball analogy I used, the perfect game, is super hard to do. It was only done once in a world series. :)

No matter, it is possible for someone to get on a roll and have a great tournament and not drop a match. Lets see if Zhang Jike can do that at the Olympics. :)

Nah, Zhang is not a man to do that. He needs an opponent to challenge him before he starts getting to his level. He will always drop games, also against weaker players. It would be insane already if he could complete his Grand Slam. That would mean he won WTTC at first attempt, Olympics at first attempt, only World Cup at second attempt. Most players who manage to complete it take a lifetime for it xD
 
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Nah, Zhang is not a man to do that. He needs an opponent to challenge him before he starts getting to his level. He will always drop games, also against weaker players. It would be insane already if he could complete his Grand Slam. That would mean he won WTTC at first attempt, Olympics at first attempt, only World Cup at second attempt. Most players who manage to complete it take a lifetime for it xD

You are right. That is how Zhang Jike is. But I will be rooting for him to complete his grand slam. :)
 
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Nah, Zhang is not a man to do that. He needs an opponent to challenge him before he starts getting to his level. He will always drop games, also against weaker players. It would be insane already if he could complete his Grand Slam. That would mean he won WTTC at first attempt, Olympics at first attempt, only World Cup at second attempt. Most players who manage to complete it take a lifetime for it xD

That drunk young man..
Winning the highest titles when he is around 24 y o :p

Let's see if he could actually pull it off :)
 
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