Dignics 05 and 09C for Viscaria Super ALC

LHDuy · Nov 2, 2022

Hi guys, I'm about to pair one of two those rubber onto the Backhand of my Viscaria Super ALC. Can u guys give me likes all the pro and cons of those 2 above? About my playing style, I play a lot of flicks inside the table (my 1st choice to bring the match into topspin-counter topspin). I play T05 before and don't really like it because it's very spin-sensitive and not easy to apply my spin. tks <3

Michael Zhuang · Nov 2, 2022

My experience is that 05 is much easier to use, with a softer sponge. 09c is far more demanding, harder to activate. But if you are strong enough to activate 09c, then it probably has greater offensive potential than 05.

But if you don't like T05, I don't know why you would suddenly like D05.

SFF_lib · Nov 2, 2022

It all depends on your preferences and techniques. For me I prefer hard rubber on Bh. I play 09C on 968 BH. Flick, topspin rally and short game are easy. I find D05 a bit difficult to lift backspin

LHDuy · Nov 2, 2022

Michael Zhuang said:
My experience is that 05 is much easier to use, with a softer sponge. 09c is far more demanding, harder to activate. But if you are strong enough to activate 09c, then it probably has greater offensive potential than 05.

But if you don't like T05, I don't know why you would suddenly like D05.

The term must be strong to activate something is very common, u can see it even with T05. To me, I can activate the potential of sticky rubber on the FH (I've used H3 Neo) by my sense (the ball: how it flies, and the feelings is right), but on the Backhand I'm not sure. Can u be specific about the procedure to apply that activation? I've heard that we need to apply the force into the ball to activate those kind.

allfj · Nov 2, 2022

Personally, i dont like putting jap/eup rubbers on my forehand, but rather my backhand. Its much easier for me to use chinese rubbers like yinhe big dipper 2 or dhs hurricane 3

LHDuy · Nov 2, 2022

Oscarting said:
Personally, i dont like putting jap/eup rubbers on my forehand, but rather my backhand. Its much easier for me to use chinese rubbers like yinhe big dipper 2 or dhs hurricane 3

yeh, I'm seeking for those on my Backhand. At first, I was more into Nittakku Fastrac G-1, but I can't find the quick supply here

superbackhand · Nov 2, 2022

what is your level/ class? C, or B?
i know the ranking system in Vietnam.

LHDuy · Nov 2, 2022

superbackhand said:
what is your level/ class? C, or B?
i know the ranking system in Vietnam.

I'm not into any ranking. But I've just been chosen for a uni team (1 college) in the system National University. I'm just 19 and has some awards before (bronze is the highest).

longle · Nov 2, 2022

LHDuy said:
I'm not into any ranking. But I've just been chosen for a uni team (1 college) in the system National University. I'm just 19 and has some awards before (bronze is the highest).

I guess you're something like E class (around 1600 USATT). IMO I've played the exact rubbers like you mentioned (D09c FH and D05 BH) and I have to say it's very demanding especially on the BH. Tenerg05 is much easier to use. If you ask me I'd suggest Xiom Jekyll&Hyde V47.5 in BH as it's not spin sensitive and more powerful than Tenergy 05

Creek · Nov 2, 2022

If you can’t spin with t05, every Dignics will be the wrong choice, as it is mich harder to activate and spin with it…

LHDuy · Nov 2, 2022

Lê Hoàng Long said:
I guess you're something like E class (around 1600 USATT). IMO I've played the exact rubbers like you mentioned (D09c FH and D05 BH) and I have to say it's very demanding especially on the BH. Tenerg05 is much easier to use. If you ask me I'd suggest Xiom Jekyll&Hyde V47.5 in BH as it's not spin sensitive and more powerful than Tenergy 05

My coach says maybe I'm a D. I've been 1 wing all the time since I started to play. Now, I'm trying to improve the backhand to become more versatile. My first choice of the backhand is Nittakku Farstac G-1 but I can't find it here, I'm already in Canada now. So I'm finding some alternative.

superbackhand · Nov 2, 2022

LHDuy said:
The term must be strong to activate something is very common, u can see it even with T05. To me, I can activate the potential of sticky rubber on the FH (I've used H3 Neo) by my sense (the ball: how it flies, and the feelings is right), but on the Backhand I'm not sure. Can u be specific about the procedure to apply that activation? I've heard that we need to apply the force into the ball to activate those kind.

you sound like a 1500-1600 player since you’ve asked those questions.
i would suggest you find a coach and work on your BH. Rubber won’t matter much at this point, it is more about the technique and the mental side. Multiball is probably the quickest way to rapidly improve techniques generally speaking.

longle · Nov 2, 2022

LHDuy said:
My coach says maybe I'm a D. I've been 1 wing all the time since I started to play. Now, I'm trying to improve the backhand to become more versatile. My first choice of the backhand is Nittakku Farstac G-1 but I can't find it here, I'm already in Canada now. So I'm finding some alternative.

If you're at that level then trying with harder rubbers will improve your game. G1 is a medium hard rubber, if you can't find it there maybe try to something else with the same sponge hardness ? Rubbers nowadays are quite similar

LHDuy · Nov 2, 2022

OK guys, I will try to find Nittaku Farstac G-1 first, if I can't, I would go with Dignics 80. Maybe to use some of rubber, I need to accelerate the contact and right time.

Zwill · Nov 2, 2022

I don't really wanna spoil the idea you have about the G-1, it's not particularly a BH rubber. It surely can be used to great effect but I would look elsewhere.

There are specific BH rubbers out there which excellent players have used to great effect. There's the Quantum X Pro from Tibhar which is specifically an easy to use backhand rubber. Or V>15 Extra from Victas which is used by a ton of pros at least on one side (BH), but there's also MX-P or if you need more spin the MX-S. Sure G-1 would be a solid forehand recommendation but for backhand it would not be in my top10 recommendation.

LHDuy · Nov 4, 2022

Hmm I end up getting Dignics 09C because the club don't have neither of things above

wish me luck then

jk1980 · Nov 5, 2022

Good luck. Interesting that the club does not have any of the more inexpensive rubbers you proposed and you end up with the most expensive one.

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