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    #401
    Quote Originally Posted by BryanY
    Does the OP really mean "alternative" or is he actually looking for a "clone" that behaves thre same way as T05?
    If the OP is still looking...


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    #402
    one more idea about this thread: maybe we should be listing a much more cheaper then tenergy rubbers here? because if we are listing rubbers that cost the same, why one should be interested in such topic? he should just go and buy tenergy and not alternative...?

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    #403
    The OP was last active 2 weeks ago. I wonder what adjective he'd use now to describe the price. His use of astronomical is really fitting here, seeing the universe is still expanding at an increasing speed. Butterfly is merely taking a page from nature. So deep.

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    This is to make Tenergy a worthles stuff.

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    #405
    I saw in another posts about Bluefire M2. I don't tried it but a lot of people say that it is the same as T05.

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    #406
    As of the moment, newer rubbers like Joola Dynariz AGR and Xiom Omega 7 Asia are better alternatives for T05.

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    #407
    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    As of the moment, newer rubbers like Joola Dynariz AGR and Xiom Omega 7 Asia are better alternatives for T05.
    I haven't tried joola rubbers, but I don' think omega 7 asia is a good alternative for tenergy 05. Ok O7A is faster and spinner but is not easy to use, only pro players could take the best of it. On the other hand tenergy is easier to use. The sponge hardness of O7A requires strong hitting force, tenergy 05 is softer and has more gears. I think that Omega V tour is the closest rubber to tenergy 05, similar trow angle, speed, spin and hardness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    As of the moment, newer rubbers like Joola Dynariz AGR and Xiom Omega 7 Asia are better alternatives for T05.
    Off topic, but yogi based on your review I am going to try O7P after using T05 for 3+ years. Fingers crossed.
    Most of the times practice, patience and an observant mind answers all your questions

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    #409
    Quote Originally Posted by SpearRKO
    I saw in another posts about Bluefire M2. I don't tried it but a lot of people say that it is the same as T05.
    I used M2 for 6 months. There in NO WAY a sane person not under the influence of meds could compare that rubber to T05 in anyway, except for sponge firmness.

    But then again, why do so many citizens wish to purchase and carry away 5 each 30 roll jumbo packs of toilet paper from the store?

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    #410
    The closest rubber I see to T05FX has been Tibhar FX-S.

    Similarities are that FX-S is soft, very dynamic, easily produces boatloads of spin, has similar feel, is very stable in the looping game, but costs 1/2 to 1/3 the price.
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    There is no alternative to Tenergy 05. Stop asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KM1976
    Off topic, but yogi based on your review I am going to try O7P after using T05 for 3+ years. Fingers crossed.
    Pro version has a different feel and playing characteristics. Pro needs more sponge engagement while Asia like 05 needs brushing mostly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KM1976
    Off topic, but yogi based on your review I am going to try O7P after using T05 for 3+ years. Fingers crossed.
    Quote Originally Posted by TTLOVE
    I haven't tried joola rubbers, but I don' think omega 7 asia is a good alternative for tenergy 05. Ok O7A is faster and spinner but is not easy to use, only pro players could take the best of it. On the other hand tenergy is easier to use. The sponge hardness of O7A requires strong hitting force, tenergy 05 is softer and has more gears. I think that Omega V tour is the closest rubber to tenergy 05, similar trow angle, speed, spin and hardness.
    Ease of usage of Tenergy 05 is subjective. I have own a few ones in the past decade and still i find it too spin sensitive which i do not find in O7A. Contrary to your personal feel, I find O7A easier to use.

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    There is no alternative to Tenergy 05. Stop asking.
    Yep. I agree with this.

    There are other rubbers. They are different. But they are not an alternative. They are not close. T05 is the best alternative for T05.

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    One of the ways of explaining it is that Butterfly's spring sponge is just better than any of the other sponges. So Tenergy allows you to feel the ball in a way that other rubbers just don't. I like MXP. It is good enough. I use it. The performance is not so far behind T05. But T05 definitely gets better spin and it just also feels so much better. Because the sponge lets you feel the ball better, it makes it so there is more you can do with the rubber.

    That is how it seems and feels to me anyway. But I do know people who are good players who don't like Tenergy. So, everyone is different.

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    #417
    There is no alternative but you might play just as well or even better with something else. But it will feel different. Nobody has cloned it the way people have cloned, say, Butterfly ALC blades.

    As Carl said, the sponge is completely unique.

    Only wsy to know if something else suits you is to try it.

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    I would really like to see a double blind test being performed with players of all ages and performance level, that claim, that T05 is so "unique" and distinct. I personally have tested many rubbers and I also claim that there are differences that I "feel". But would I put a serious amount of money in a bet being able to distinguish between rubber A and B? Don't think so....

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    #419

    What is the best alternative for Tenergy 05?

    I have little doubt about being able to tell te difference between the non-fx Tenergies and the common alternatives.

    I do like T05 and do think it has unique qualities. However, for me that also holds true for quite a few of the common contenders.

    Much of that is level and style related, and quite a bit, I think, a matter of personal preference.

    Rubbers do not induce a consistent complete partial order, in short. So, no complete lattice, and no top element.

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    #420
    I mostly base my suggestions for alternatives of T0t based on their performance and less with feel because they do not just feel like Tenergy 05. Several rubbers now from ESN provide you with more speed and spin but they cannot replicate the feel of T05 hence maybe people are basing it as still being superior than modern ESN rubbers.

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