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PlasmaLight · Oct 28, 2012

Hey guys,

just wanted to share my match videos with you

1st Match (was very nervous in the first match

)

2nd Match (injured my shoulder, when i fall. couldnt move my arm for two weeks)

3rd Match (still injured shoulder. you can see in the first match, that i was scared to do a topspin and often failed)

4th Match

5th Match

6th Match

7th Match

8th Match

Der_Echte · Oct 28, 2012

You got more than a little temper dude! I like that. Your last opponent sometimes appeared to make his ball toss 15 millimeters instead of 15 cm... You still handled his serves, blocked, and fished/lobbed well. Some nice attacks and rallies to boot.

What is the average TTV level of the players you face?

PlasmaLight · Oct 28, 2012

Der_Echte said:
You got more than a little temper dude! I like that. Your last opponent sometimes appeared to make his ball toss 15 millimeters instead of 15 cm... You still handled his serves, blocked, and fished/lobbed well. Some nice attacks and rallies to boot.

What is the average TTV level of the players you face?

thank you echte

15millimeters ... hehe .. yeah .. but i dont care

whats a ttv level?

UpSideDownCarl · Oct 30, 2012

Some of those ball tosses are 0 millimeters. Some he just throws the ball straight back without any up.

Your forehand loop looks really nice when you let the ball drop. Pretty shot. You played nicely in both matches.

Der_Echte · Oct 30, 2012

Oops! TTR. The new German system to classify the playing level...

PlasmaLight · Oct 30, 2012

Der_Echte said:
Oops! TTR. The new German system to classify the playing level...

hm its different. the weaker players have around 1850 points and the best 2000 points. but normally they have between 1910 and 1970 ... i have 1911 now

Vega · Oct 30, 2012

PlasmaLight said:
hm its different. the weaker players have around 1850 points and the best 2000 points. but normally they have between 1910 and 1970 ... i have 1911 now

And the points ar very different depending in which region/association you play

If you compare the strongest regions (like Bavaria, Nort Rhine-Westphalia,..) to the weaker ones (like Plasmas

) u can say that players of the same strength have easily about 100 points too much in the weaker regions compared to the rest of Germany..

PlasmaLight · Oct 30, 2012

Vega said:
And the points ar very different depending in which region/association you play If you compare the strongest regions (like Bavaria, Nort Rhine-Westphalia,..) to the weaker ones (like Plasmas ) u can say that players of the same strength have easily about 100 points too much in the weaker regions compared to the rest of Germany..

yea right

whats your ttr?

UpSideDownCarl · Oct 30, 2012

PlasmaLight said:
yea right whats your ttr?

Any idea how those numbers compare to USATT rating system?

cmetsbeltran15 · Oct 30, 2012

What is your ranking in Germany? Just based on video I'd estimate you at or over 2400 US, which puts you not far under the highest level of US born players.

UpSideDownCarl · Oct 30, 2012

cmetsbeltran15 said:
What is your ranking in Germany? Just based on video I'd estimate you at or over 2400 US, which puts you not far under the highest level of US born players.

Funny, I was thinking 2250-2350 range, but you are probably right.

PlasmaLight said:
hm its different. the weaker players have around 1850 points and the best 2000 points. but normally they have between 1910 and 1970 ... i have 1911 now

So 1911 might mean approximately 2400. I wonder if anyone knows how that would translate into USATT rating.

cmetsbeltran15 · Oct 30, 2012

UpSideDownCarl said:
Funny, I was thinking 2250-2350 range, but you are probably right.

So 1911 might mean approximately 2400. I wonder if anyone knows how that would translate into USATT rating.

Video always makes people look worse. Just by the power of his loops and consistency with which he hits I don't see him as any less than 2350. The serves look pretty nasty as well.

UpSideDownCarl · Oct 30, 2012

cmetsbeltran15 said:
Video always makes people look worse. Just by the power of his loops and consistency with which he hits I don't see him as any less than 2350. The serves look pretty nasty as well.

Yeah, I think you are right.

YosuaYosan · Oct 31, 2012

Yer skilled!

PlasmaLight · Oct 31, 2012

UpSideDownCarl said:
Any idea how those numbers compare to USATT rating system?

puhh... sorry i dont know

cmetsbeltran15 said:
What is your ranking in Germany? Just based on video I'd estimate you at or over 2400 US, which puts you not far under the highest level of US born players.

in germany i am ranked now 1297. i play in the 5th devision

UpSideDownCarl · Nov 1, 2012

PlasmaLight said:
puhh... sorry i dont know

Yeah. That makes sense. I don't know that stuff like that translates. But I think cmetsbeltran15 is probably pretty accurate. I like watching your loops.

PlasmaLight said:
in germany i am ranked now 1297. i play in the 5th devision

Pretty respectable.

PlasmaLight · Nov 1, 2012

UpSideDownCarl said:
Pretty respectable.

Thanks.

Made some good improvements, when i went to another club last year

Der_Echte · Nov 2, 2012

UpSideDownCarl said:
Funny, I was thinking 2250-2350 range, but you are probably right.

So 1911 might mean approximately 2400. I wonder if anyone knows how that would translate into USATT rating.

Variato from Pimp My Blade TT Forum in Germany (a material TT forum) made a post at OOAK explaining the system a bit.

http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17872

UpSideDownCarl · Nov 2, 2012

Der_Echte said:
Variato from Pimp My Blade TT Forum in Germany (a material TT forum) made a post at OOAK explaining the system a bit.

http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17872

Great info. Thanks Der_Echte. So, 1911 would fall into the area somewhere between 2200 and 2500. Here I am quoting from that post on Ooak Forum:

Variatio from Ooak Forum said:
The spread goes from ~800 TTR (beginners) to ~2700 (Timo Boll).

Here some estimated domains of the TTR for the German leagues - whereby the names of the leagues differ in the different regions of germany. Here I mention the leagues of the WTTV region:

1.Bundesliga (2300-2700)
2.Bundesliga (2000-2400)
Regionaliga (1900-2200)
Oberliga (1800-2100)
Verbandsliga (1700-2000)
Landesliga (1650-1950)
Bezirksliga (1600-1900)
Bezirksklasse (1500-1750)
Kreisliga (1400-1650)
1. Kreisklasse (1350-1550)
2. Kreisklasse (1300-1500)
3. Kreisklasse (1200-1450)
Hobbyklasse (1000-1400)

I looked for comparisons to the USATT and found some german players that are both ranked in TTR and USATT. For example I found one player with a lot of matches both in USA and Germany. He has a TTR of ~1650 and a USATT of ~2100. But most german players participated only at one championship in the USA thus it is difficult to find more convincing examples.

Here some players that played both in the USA and in Germany - in bold I emphasized that players that did quite a lot of matches in Germany AND the USA:

name TTR | USATT
--------------------------------------------------------------
Aleksandar Karakasevic 2500 | 2850
Thomas Keinath 2420 | 2800
Lucian Blaszczyk 2500 | 2800
Joerg Rosskopf 2400 | 2730
Patrick Baum 2450 | 2730
Steffen Mengel 2350 | 2720
Stefan Feth 2275 | 2700
Andreas Ball 2130 | 2675
Tanja Hain-Hofman 2100 | 2500
Franz-Josef Huermann 1870 | 2230
Sebastian Lenzen 2050 | 2230
Thorsten Esch 1700 | 2140
Andreas Hain 1800 | 2130
Fabian Schulenburg 1800 | 2120
Markus Kirsten 1650 | 2100
Volker Schoeppe 1550 | 2070
Michael Backes 1600 | 1900

This means that my TTR of ~1750 is comparable to an USATT of 2100-2250.

Do you know some other players that helps to compare the USATT and the TTR?

PlasmaLight · Nov 2, 2012

so you were right

1911 + 300/400 points

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