amazing serves from a non-pro player

UpSideDownCarl · Dec 28, 2012

blahness said:
I'll give you a challenge, try to identify the type of spin on the ball!

Got to go to work but I will do this later. It will be fun. First one is Side under. Second: Side top. Third: Inside out side top. Fourth: Inside out Side top.

They are nice. It is harder to read from video than from real life but I think those are the first 4 serves. Will do the rest when I am back from work. That one that goes down the line is actually really amazing.

UpSideDownCarl · Dec 28, 2012

blahness said:
He actually only uploaded one serve for each type of serve, and someone else compiled it into one big video. He does have competition videos which further highlight the power of his serve.

Can you post a video of him playing matches. I would love to see that.

Those serves do have a lot of spin.

XIII · Dec 29, 2012

blahness said:
Hey that's cheating ! You still need to identify the top/bottom component

I don't get it...
You mean top-side and under-side?

UpSideDownCarl · Dec 29, 2012

XIII said:
I don't get it...
You mean top-side and under-side?

I think that is what he meant. Is it underspin with the sidespin is it topspin with the sidespin, is it just sidespin. But none of them are just sidespin.

UpSideDownCarl · Dec 29, 2012

Okay, I am going to try a few more. The Fifth one is a little to hard to see. The camera angle is not so good and it is a fast serve. It looks like it could be dead, under or top (it does look like topspin though), and there is some side but not so much. The Sixth one is also a fast serve and it looks like topspin with a small amount of side. The seventh one is also a fast serve and it is inside out topspin to the backhand side. The last one is very much like the Sixth serve.

I can see that, from the motion of his wrist and arm, I would be able to tell if he was there, but it is hard to be sure when you are looking at a video that is not such great quality. I really would love to see him playing a match though to see how he prepares for the third ball.

The placement on the third and forth serves (inside out topspin) is really excellent though.

blahness · Dec 29, 2012

UpSideDownCarl said:
Okay, I am going to try a few more. The Fifth one is a little to hard to see. The camera angle is not so good and it is a fast serve. It looks like it could be dead, under or top (it does look like topspin though), and there is some side but not so much. The Sixth one is also a fast serve and it looks like topspin with a small amount of side. The seventh one is also a fast serve and it is inside out topspin to the backhand side. The last one is very much like the Sixth serve.

I can see that, from the motion of his wrist and arm, I would be able to tell if he was there, but it is hard to be sure when you are looking at a video that is not such great quality. I really would love to see him playing a match though to see how he prepares for the third ball.

The placement on the third and forth serves (inside out topspin) is really excellent though.

I'll go to his channel to see his individual serves to find out the answers for you all.

blahness · Dec 29, 2012

UpSideDownCarl said:
Okay, I am going to try a few more. The Fifth one is a little to hard to see. The camera angle is not so good and it is a fast serve. It looks like it could be dead, under or top (it does look like topspin though), and there is some side but not so much. The Sixth one is also a fast serve and it looks like topspin with a small amount of side. The seventh one is also a fast serve and it is inside out topspin to the backhand side. The last one is very much like the Sixth serve.

I can see that, from the motion of his wrist and arm, I would be able to tell if he was there, but it is hard to be sure when you are looking at a video that is not such great quality. I really would love to see him playing a match though to see how he prepares for the third ball.

The placement on the third and forth serves (inside out topspin) is really excellent though.

You're pretty good, first one is side-under, second one side-top, third one side-under, fourth one side-top, also the fast reverse to the BH is side-under, hehe the reverse is really quite deceptive...for the hook side-under you have to notice during the contact the bat has to drag the ball downwards a period of time (this one is the teller), and there is less acceleration for the upwards "hook". The down-the-line serve is a plain no-spin fast serve

blahness · Dec 29, 2012

The fifth is side-under, sixth is side-top, last serve is no-spin fast.

You can differentiate them through their exit trajectory, fast side-under typically are the shortest due to the slowing down effect of the underspin, side-top typically land a bit longer, while no-spin fast serves don't veer sideways.

Unfortunately it's how I actually determine the spin on long fast serves, by how much they slow down/accelerate and their trajectory LOL... the arm action is way tooooo fast to see anything at all...

blahness · Dec 29, 2012

You can watch this guy's matches at the links here: http://bbs.chinatt.com/tt/dispbbs.asp?boardid=118&id=633763. I'll update the OP

UpSideDownCarl · Dec 29, 2012

blahness said:
You're pretty good, first one is side-under, second one side-top, third one side-under, fourth one side-top, also the fast reverse to the BH is side-under, hehe the reverse is really quite deceptive...for the hook side-under you have to notice during the contact the bat has to drag the ball downwards a period of time (this one is the teller), and there is less acceleration for the upwards "hook". The down-the-line serve is a plain no-spin fast serve

Funny, I left out the down the line one. I just forgot to put it in and thought I had. I was pretty sure the down the line one was no spin because it is higher and very flat. It is an excellent serve though, because of the placement.

UpSideDownCarl · Jan 1, 2013

blahness said:
You can watch this guy's matches at the links here: http://bbs.chinatt.com/tt/dispbbs.asp?boardid=118&id=633763. I'll update the OP

He sets up his points nicely. He knows what to expect as a return from his serves and is set for the third ball quite well. Nice. Fun to watch such well constructed points.

Kevzar · Jan 15, 2013

respect for playing high level table tennis with long trousers haha

ttunreal · Jan 18, 2013

Such high quality serves! Typical Chinese player or not, the serves are well served! Deceptive and great placement!

UpSideDownCarl · Mar 8, 2013

Bump.......

mok33 · Dec 31, 2013

i can't access the video ... can you pls passe me another link 'cause i'm getting curious

Tinykin · Dec 31, 2013

Same here ^^^

ttmonster · Jan 1, 2014

The videos are no longer there , any alternative links ?

courage1337 · Jan 1, 2014

I would like to see those serves have anyone some other links to that ?

bachikho · Jan 2, 2014

Tinykin · Jan 3, 2014

Thanks, Bachikho, for the new link. I particularly like how he serve fast to BH or side double bouncer with almost same movement.

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