Kuwait Open 2013 - ITTF World Tour

WiWa · Feb 18, 2013

ITTF uploaded both finals in full form to YouTube! What confused me in the Men's Final is Ma Long's 'backhand'(?) serve. At first sight it looked like an ordinary backhand serve, but did he hit it with the black rubber? For example at 40:25.. I'm not sure, did anybody think the same?
For the rest it wasn't really a high quality match, both players seemed fatigued or something, haven't heard a single cho... Only the last game Zhang made a fist a few times..

revulucao · Feb 18, 2013

i think the same about both things. They played bad and without emotion. I think too that the serve was with the Fh and you can see for the effect, when i first see it and thought that zhang jike just react to that because they have practiced that service before so not a big surprise for ZJK

Steven · Feb 18, 2013

WiWa said:
ITTF uploaded both finals in full form to YouTube! What confused me in the Men's Final is Ma Long's 'backhand'(?) serve. At first sight it looked like an ordinary backhand serve, but did he hit it with the black rubber? For example at 40:25.. I'm not sure, did anybody think the same?
For the rest it wasn't really a high quality match, both players seemed fatigued or something, haven't heard a single cho... Only the last game Zhang made a fist a few times..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jweOY8G-HFg

Wow yeah, well noticed. That might actually be a really good service since you don't expect a full-topspin service with that motion.
By the way, slow motion replay at 40:35.

janus · Feb 18, 2013

# Semi Final: XU Xin vs MA Long / Full Match in Short Form

# Men's Final: Ma Long vs Zhang Jike / Full Match in Short Form

dici · Feb 19, 2013

revulucao said:
i think the same about both things. They played bad and without emotion. I think too that the serve was with the Fh and you can see for the effect, when i first see it and thought that zhang jike just react to that because they have practiced that service before so not a big surprise for ZJK

The 4th and 5th game definitely shows that Ma Long is way too tired than Jike. Probably they were still in Lunar New Year mode and then it suddenly they had to come over Kuwait for this >.>

Irkutt · Feb 19, 2013

Unexpected from Ma Long, he is normally a stable hard worker and less dependent on the mood, this is what differs him from Zhang Jike, commentator supposed he must have felt not very well- may be he has but I think Ma Long has been somehow not very much concentrated

UpSideDownCarl · Feb 19, 2013

Ma Long beat Xu Xin 4-0. He beat him easily. Zhang Jike stood in there for all Ma Long's most powerful shots and ripped many of them back. Nobody can really do that to Ma Long. Zhang Jike also beat Ma Long on the short game. Yesterday Zhang Jike was, by far, the better player. That gives Ma Long something to think about. I think this is good for both Ma Long and Zhang Jike. There is really nobody close to either of them and if they both keep upping their games against each other, they both will continue to separate themselves from the rest. Sort of like Wang Liqin and Ma Lin when they were toe to toe at the top 10 years ago.

Irkutt · Feb 19, 2013

In my opinion the best and the most objective indicator exposing the power and skillfulness of the Chinese players is their trials for world championships and Olympics. That's where everything is present, true fight and passion, where you almost feel the nerve of the game.

ttmonster · Feb 19, 2013

I do agree with you carl, some of the counters and hard blocks from Zhang Jike was amazing. But for some reason I am not entirely convinced. I feel all of the chinese players right now are saving themselves for the WTTC trials. A small niggle here and there and they don't want to expend themselves on the table. Thats what happened with ZJK in the last phase of the superleague and the last austrian open or whichever was the last tournament before this. I still fail to believe he has less motivation , they are too smart for that and likewise I fail to believe the Ma Long gave his 100%. Look at his backhand serves with reverse spin , he just did not want to move . Thats not common for Ma Long.

Tinykin · Feb 19, 2013

dici said:
The 4th and 5th game definitely shows that Ma Long is way too tired than Jike. Probably they were still in Lunar New Year mode and then it suddenly they had to come over Kuwait for this >.>

I don't think he was tired. He's a superb athlete. It's obvious that he simply gave up.

revulucao · Feb 19, 2013

Ma long was too far of his concentration. He can see that he tried to invert the situation by his attitude and how he asked the time out, but he was in a day no. If you have not notice see how Zhang jike used the time out, he saw ma long far of the table and do it. Then he go to his corner and ma long go to the table to put the racket. Then ZJK see Ma long going to his corner and ZJK came to the table because it was his time out so he decide when it overs. I think that is a attitude of not respect, they belong to the same team

janus · Feb 20, 2013

# Women's Singles Final: Liu Shiwen vs Feng Tianwei / Full Match in Short Form

>> A Great Match!!!

delirious · Feb 20, 2013

revulucao said:
Ma long was too far of his concentration. He can see that he tried to invert the situation by his attitude and how he asked the time out, but he was in a day no. If you have not notice see how Zhang jike used the time out, he saw ma long far of the table and do it. Then he go to his corner and ma long go to the table to put the racket. Then ZJK see Ma long going to his corner and ZJK came to the table because it was his time out so he decide when it overs. I think that is a attitude of not respect, they belong to the same team

A attitude of not respect????

Don't be so sensitive! Zhang Jike and Ma Long are actually best friends.

mefisto81 · Feb 20, 2013

Lol can t belive that

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revulucao · Feb 20, 2013

remember that in the past when ma long win against ZJK ZJk didnot shank hand to ma long in the final of the game

delirious · Feb 21, 2013

revulucao said:
remember that in the past when ma long win against ZJK ZJk didnot shank hand to ma long in the final of the game

In this matter, I accept ZJK's explanations and believe he didn't do that on purpose.
I've paid close attention to ZJK for some time. He is sometimes careless and do funny/stupid things, especially when he is too into a match.

Justchill · Feb 22, 2013

could somebody create the 2013 Qatar open topic?

Steven · Feb 22, 2013

Justchill said:
could somebody create the 2013 Qatar open topic?

Here it is: http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?4426-Qatar-Open-2013-ITTF-World-Tour

cheli · Mar 4, 2013

Ma Long rules

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