Sign after a name on the ITTF ranking list

Progton · Apr 3, 2013

Hi!

I have a question.
I saw Singapore on the live stream and i thougt this are not the strongest players. Only Gao Ning.

Now i was searching for other players on the ittf ranking list, and i saw ZHAN
Jian ^ (SIN) and more players who had that sign
What is the meaning of that sign, are they former Chinese and not allowed to play for the country or something else?

Ton

Matt Hetherington · Apr 3, 2013

Progton said:
Hi!

I have a question.
I saw Singapore on the live stream and i thougt this are not the strongest players. Only Gao Ning.

Now i was searching for other players on the ittf ranking list, and i saw ZHAN
Jian ^ (SIN) and more players who had that sign
What is the meaning of that sign, are they former Chinese and not allowed to play for the country or something else?

Ton

Hey Progton. There can be one or two signs.
^ one cap means they are originally from another nation and have changed their representation. Zhan Jian is likely to have been from China and changed to Singapore.
^^ two caps means they have changed their representation and their name. For example Liu Yongshuai moved from China to New Zealand and his name is now Liu Teng Teng and he plays in New Zealand.

Progton · Apr 3, 2013

Thank you!
I understand.

Then i have another question. Why does Singapore never deliver his best players?
Is it not possible, because they are not long enough a singapore citizen

TableTennisDK · Apr 3, 2013

The Singaporian players, are not good enough to join the chinese nationalteam, and therefore moves to Singapore, Hong Kong (Jiang Tianyi) or Chinese Taipei. To play on their nationalteams.

Progton · Apr 3, 2013

Thanks!
There are much of those players i think.

And names as Zhan Jian, Chen Feng, Li Hu. Aren't allowed to play for Singapore team because they where Chinese.
Do you know when they can play for the Singaporian team

TableTennisDK · Apr 3, 2013

I do not know whether they have to live there, og have a citizenship.

Progton · Apr 3, 2013

Hmm okay, i think they can be a lot better with 1 or 2 of those players, they are high ranked

Matt Hetherington · Apr 3, 2013

Feng Tianwei was also formerly from China, I remember because in 2003 when I played at a combined National and World Junior Circuit event she was here with Ma Long and Zhang Jike, representing China.

Progton · Apr 3, 2013

Yeah i knew that. Her father was in the Netherlands, i had multi ball of him because i was helping the players for the dutch paralympic team in Being, was a great experience.
He is/was a trainer in China. He gave Wang Hao multi ball training

TurboZ · Apr 3, 2013

I see both Yoshida Kaii and Chan Kazuhiro are originated from China and pick up new names after moving to Japan but there are no sign with them. Jiang Tianyi also moved to Hong Kong from China and no sign too. Could it be the list is not complete or the sign actually means something else?

Steven · Apr 3, 2013

TurboZ said:
I see both Yoshida Kaii and Chan Kazuhiro are originated from China and pick up new names after moving to Japan but there are no sign with them. Jiang Tianyi also moved to Hong Kong from China and no sign too. Could it be the list is not complete or the sign actually means something else?

Some Chinese players who moved to another country a long time ago have already lost those marks. For example Li Jiao, she got her Dutch passport nearly 10 years ago. I don't know for how long Feng Tianwei, Kaii Yoshida and Chan Kazuhiro have lived outside China, but I think it's somewhat similar for them.

jmillsy2 · Apr 4, 2013

i think ifyou are eligible to represent your country in the world championships then the sign disappears from the name.
zhan jian cant play in the worlds due to the eligibility rules, however feng tianwei, wu jiaduo, shen yanfei, chen weixing etc are eligible to represent their 'new' country in the worlds so do not have a sign after their name.

Progton · Apr 4, 2013

think you are very right indeed

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