How to perform Kick Serve?

My coach tells me if I'm having trouble with a serve that always seems to look the same but have different spins is to not only read the ball, but look for any type of motion the opponent does to serve. Then push at the ball and note the reaction of the ball to the serve. Of course, this means giving away some points, but in the long run of the match if done early will allow you to get an early jump on the ball if the Kick Serve is a topspin.

its like a normal long fast serve but in the end do a loop motions with just the wrist to give the ball as much topspin as possible.and thats it

Is the kicker server the same serve that Wang Hao uses?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrrIDgT6TnY#t=732

serves start at 12 min

1. i woke up
2. i grabbed my bat
3. i found a table
4. i performed a perfect kick serve

more like the order was 2,3,4,1

I know this is an old thread but it's interesting and I'm gonna do 144 balls on this one today.

I think it's done like this: if your bat angle is 45 degrees open, although it is a backspin position, if you drop the ball on the bat, it will be topspin, but slight topspin.

Use that. Barely mov the bat to touch the ball and then go down. I hope it works for me and everyone else .

agold said:

I know this is an old thread but it's interesting and I'm gonna do 144 balls on this one today.

I think it's done like this: if your bat angle is 45 degrees open, although it is a backspin position, if you drop the ball on the bat, it will be topspin, but slight topspin.

Use that. Barely mov the bat to touch the ball and then go down. I hope it works for me and everyone else .

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thanks for the tip. I have these hook serves (a bit like that of Chris Wheeler), one is topspin/kick serve, one is super fast and no spin or a little underspin. Earned me a lot of points. Hope I can add more deception to my serves with your tip.

iammaru said:

thanks for the tip. I have these hook serves (a bit like that of Chris Wheeler), one is topspin/kick serve, one is super fast and no spin or a little underspin. Earned me a lot of points. Hope I can add more deception to my serves with your tip.

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Thanks. After I wrote this I created a very effective top and under spin serve using my technique. I never got so many points from serve pushes going off the table. When I go back to my club (once my leg heals) I will tape it.

One of my topspin serves is done in the manner described above and to many players it looks a lot like a bottomspin serve. Ball toss a little over head, bat even with table top to 45 degrees, move bat forward to impact it just like underspin, but at impact, you are moving the bat backwards. The ball falling on a tilted blade will naturally have a bit of topspin, but when you pull the bat back at the same time, it generates much more topspin. The timing of this serve can be difficult to learn, but not impossible. Since many players serve underspin but cutting under the ball, following through forward and bringing the bat back, this serve has the same motion as a regular cut serve, but the impact timing is a shade different, kinda hard to catch. That is why it is effective on those who never see it. Plus, when you get good at controlling the impact, you can make this serve both low AND short for even more popups LULZ.

This serve is worth learning for the advantage it can give you (even if it wears off vs the better players) and for the learning of touch and timing that can translate into other shots.

[h=1]Werner Schlager service explanation - ITTF World Hopes Week & Challenge 2013[/h]
cant post a ling but search it on youtube... you`ll get a verry nice ideea of the mechanics

agold said:

Thanks. After I wrote this I created a very effective top and under spin serve using my technique. I never got so many points from serve pushes going off the table. When I go back to my club (once my leg heals) I will tape it.

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thanks. I would love to see it. I love to learn as many strange serves as possible.

It's in the wrist, brush the bull upwards and accelerate that motion with your wrist when you contact the ball during service.

roudy said:

Werner Schlager service explanation - ITTF World Hopes Week & Challenge 2013


cant post a ling but search it on youtube... you`ll get a verry nice ideea of the mechanics

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If you think a little bit logically, you'll find out that the type of spin depends only on the movement and not on the hemisphere where you hit the ball.
I know Schlager is a world champion, but if he says that if you hit the ball on the front hemisphere that it is a topspin and if you hit the ball on the back hemisphere that it is a backspin serve, he doesn't know much about physical processes.