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      Will Tenergy 80 be okay with this glue ?

      The glue is called "Vulkan (or Volcano idk) Champion repeat"
      It's not water-based glue but on tenergy is "Attention Butterfly water-based glue is recommended for this rubber"
      Would be my tenergy okay with Vulkan or i need to buy free chack or donic vario clean or what.
      And I want to glue my acuda s2. Can I for example glue my tenergy with free chack and acuda s2 with vulkan ? Would be it okay?

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      In my opinion tenergies work the best with water based glue.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sali View Post
      In my opinion tenergies work the best with water based glue.
      Which water-based glue ?

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      There are plenty of them, each producer has one in his offer. I use butterfly free chack.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sali View Post
      There are plenty of them, each producer has one in his offer. I use butterfly free chack.
      Alright thanks I use it but should I use free chack on acuda s2 too ? let me know

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      Just grab 90ml Donic Vario Clean (9 euros) It's made in the same factory as butterfly's free chuck but costs 2x less. And It's literally the same glue.
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      In my opinion after bty it is easier to remove rubbers. All these glues does not affect your rubbers in any way, you just use them once until rubbers are used and have to be changed to new ones,

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      I personally use Free Chack glue for Butterfly rubbers (etc. Tenergy, Bryce) and Vario Clean glue for Donic rubbers (etc. Acuda, Baracuda)
      In my opinion, they work pretty much similar. Have found that free chack has a less strong bond than the vario clean, which makes it easy to separate from the blade on the corners if you're doing lots of low chops and you hit the rubber on the table. Otherwise, both are fine.

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      Okay so my tenergy would be okay with donic vario clean right ? Just need to know because tommorrow I'm going to buy the glue and glue my rubbers

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      Quote Originally Posted by courage1337 View Post
      Okay so my tenergy would be okay with donic vario clean right ? Just need to know because tommorrow I'm going to buy the glue and glue my rubbers
      Yep. Vario Clean will work with any rubbers. It is good glue. As good as any. Does not matter what kind of rubber, Donic Vario Clean will work on them. So will Free Chack.
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      Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl View Post
      Yep. Vario Clean will work with any rubbers. It is good glue. As good as any. Does not matter what kind of rubber, Donic Vario Clean will work on them. So will Free Chack.
      Thanks very much for info First person who told me clearly and more than i would want and thats very good thanks again bro

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      Quote Originally Posted by courage1337 View Post
      Thanks very much for info First person who told me clearly and more than i would want and thats very good thanks again bro
      You are welcome. It does seem that several people answered different questions or asked their own. All good.

      I would get one of those glues. I use Donic Vario Clean. Which ever water based glue you have, you can use it on all your rubbers including the Acuda S2. There is no reason to use one glue for one rubber and a different glue for a different rubber.

      You don't want the Vulkan Champion Repeat. That is the old glue with VOCs in it. Why don't you want that glue? It will work. But, the VOCs will expand the rubber of either the Tenergy or the Acuda S2 and then a week later, the rubber will shrink and be too small for your blade and you will have to take it off and glue it again, and again, and again or you will have to boost them to permanently expand them so they don't shrink again. The VOCs which are against the current rules of play, will expand the sponge and then the sponge shrinks back to its normal size in a couple of days.

      It is easier to glue with the new water based glues and if you wanted a boost effect, to boost them, rather than using that Vulkan glue. The Tenergy and the Acuda will also last longer with the water based glue.

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      Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl View Post
      You are welcome. It does seem that several people answered different questions or asked their own. All good.

      I would get one of those glues. I use Donic Vario Clean. Which ever water based glue you have, you can use it on all your rubbers including the Acuda S2. There is no reason to use one glue for one rubber and a different glue for a different rubber.

      You don't want the Vulkan Champion Repeat. That is the old glue with VOCs in it. Why don't you want that glue? It will work. But, the VOCs will expand the rubber of either the Tenergy or the Acuda S2 and then a week later, the rubber will shrink and be too small for your blade and you will have to take it off and glue it again, and again, and again or you will have to boost them to permanently expand them so they don't shrink again. The VOCs which are against the current rules of play, will expand the sponge and then the sponge shrinks back to its normal size in a couple of days.

      It is easier to glue with the new water based glues and if you wanted a boost effect, to boost them, rather than using that Vulkan glue. The Tenergy and the Acuda will also last longer with the water based glue.
      Wow. You should keep this because these informations are very useful and i didn't ask for them^^. I really apprieciate these info.
      Btw I asked Dan with which glue I should glue the rubbers and he told me that he recommend free chack.
      And one more thing theres the guy which wrote on my other thread this "One thing, Everybody who used Donic vario clean last year was very happy, but this year it's different. When you stick the rubber with it, after some time air comes under the rubber and you get little baloons, rubber starts to vibrate, and the ball can collapse when you play, so I wouldn't recommend it any more, try Tibhar clean fix, I use it from 2008. , it's great." He's nickname here is MDanielCRO.
      What do you think about that what he wrote?

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      Quote Originally Posted by courage1337 View Post
      Wow. You should keep this because these informations are very useful and i didn't ask for them^^. I really apprieciate these info.
      Btw I asked Dan with which glue I should glue the rubbers and he told me that he recommend free chack.
      And one more thing theres the guy which wrote on my other thread this "One thing, Everybody who used Donic vario clean last year was very happy, but this year it's different. When you stick the rubber with it, after some time air comes under the rubber and you get little baloons, rubber starts to vibrate, and the ball can collapse when you play, so I wouldn't recommend it any more, try Tibhar clean fix, I use it from 2008. , it's great." He's nickname here is MDanielCRO.
      What do you think about that what he wrote?
      Oh, I don't know. I never had a problem with it. But any of the water based glues from any of the companies should be fine. Free Chack, Tibhar Clean Fix. What you do not want is glue that has VOCs in it. Unless you know what you are doing with boosting the rubbers and don't care what kind of glue you use. But, there is no real need to boost Tenergy or Acuda.

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      Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl View Post
      Oh, I don't know. I never had a problem with it. But any of the water based glues from any of the companies should be fine. Free Chack, Tibhar Clean Fix. What you do not want is glue that has VOCs in it. Unless you know what you are doing with boosting the rubbers and don't care what kind of glue you use. But, there is no real need to boost Tenergy or Acuda.
      whats VOC btw o.o

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      VOC = Volatile Organic Compound. They are chemicals that are highly flammable that were used as solvents in the old glues. The solvent, the VOC causes the sponge to expand. ITTF banned the use of glues containing these substances in 2008.

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      I told you about Donic vario clean from my own experience, maybe it will be different for you but I really don't understand why is glue so different than last year..

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