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At serve ball must be visible all the time. Here is invisible for a moment and it is enough to say it is illegal. 
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ye thats true maybe timo can see the ball all the time but the camera have a different angle so its arguable!!!
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I think none of the shots were taken from the receiver's view. From where the camera was, it did look suspect. But if I am playing against him, I can safely say that I would be able to see the ball at all times.
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I think that for Ma Long, the serve appears to be illegal because Ma Long can't see the ball I presume.
But for Timo Boll, I presume that the serve is right because Timo has a good perspective.
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But for Timo Boll, I presume that the serve is right because Timo has a good perspective.
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Lefties are happy to see the ball, because of their different perspective
Right handers are disadvantaged
But generally I assume it's an illegal serve
Right handers are disadvantaged
But generally I assume it's an illegal serve
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I think he covers the ball with his body, but I don't see how the opponent got too much trouble from it..
I think he covers the ball with his body, but I don't see how the opponent got too much trouble from it..
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this just shows you how carefree HIGHEST LEVEL INTERNATIONAL umpires are when looking for illegal services. ittf needs to have umpires sit where they can tell if the service is being hidden or not. Many of the chinese services have gotten away will illegal services because no one has told them they are illegal
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Every pro's serve is "illegal" then. Some umpires + rules are so stupid. NO ONE that is a pro player throws the ball 'vertically upwards,' especially the men. Only some girls do that.
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Someone please tell me why this is the most active topic of the entire forum's history.
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Yes, I am new to THIS TT forum, but not new to TT forums.
Someone please tell me why this is the most active topic of the entire forum's history.
It can't be the Bots, they don't post.
Yeah good point there. Its because i made a video on youtube of this thread and it was a big hit and all traffic was diverted to this thread. Ifs a shame i dont have that channel anymore :-(
I think the chinese super league thread will soon take over.
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yes its more to do witha slack attitude with pros that leads to illegal serves from the highest level down, some allowence is made for near vertical but you can't toss it backward /sideways/behind your body and then say its legal, the rule dosn't say because everyone else does it therfore its legal,
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