Rubin with 3 point forehand multiball

33 Year old Rubin (2nd year in TT)



This video was taken during the final minutes of a 2 hour multiball session.

You are doing a great job feeding multiballs Tony!

Thanks Giangt

Coach Yogi Bear, good to see you here too!!
Oh btw, there was only like 5 balls left

Here is a hardcore one, faster pace (pace of top levels)
Clauzane in this video is also pretty new to the sport, also around 2 years too (6 months with me)
He wanted to test out the speed he needs to be at one day and it was also approaching the end of a 2 hour session

Good technique, Tony. Not all coaches get the timing right for each individual player and sometimes feed too fast or slow or too long/short, depending.
Back in the nineties coaches used to bounce the ball on the table first for most M-ball sessions with the out of hand technique for more specialised stuff. It seems that today it is all out of hand technique.
I still use the table bounce technique for young players or low standard as I think it helps to relate to gameplay.

Dan should do video on some of his M-ball techniques...hint, hint.

Originally Posted by Tinykin

Good technique, Tony. Not all coaches get the timing right for each individual player and sometimes feed too fast or slow or too long/short, depending.
Back in the nineties coaches used to bounce the ball on the table first for most M-ball sessions with the out of hand technique for more specialised stuff. It seems that today it is all out of hand technique.
I still use the table bounce technique for young players or low standard as I think it helps to relate to gameplay.

Dan should do video on some of his M-ball techniques...hint, hint.

Thanks you Tinykin,

Yeah, I think it is individual preferences. I feed faster with out of hand technique. For underspin I prefer bounce though, however if require to feed out of hand, I can too, but those were be 2 different types of underspin arc (out of hand is more chopper like)

I've been training my students to feed to each other, and indeed the biggest struggle is the right timing.
It is so much more than feeding, as one requires to visualise the player and adjust to his/her timing.

Some of my students has been feeding for over a year now. And they still don't feed close to any where "good" in my standard.
I wonder if I can succeed at all one day (in building up players to become proper feeders, so they can train among themselves)

Yes I've noticed that young players don't particularly like feeding m-ball and many deliberately don't do it well. It's for a variety of reasons including some feel that they are giving their 'competition' too much help. Even when I see videos of those Chinese young players doing m-ball, their faces say that they are not really into it.
They will feed by blocking all day long, but multi-ball...maybe not.

But having said that, I have been to a German training camp where the multiball session was treated as part of a big end of day event. This went down a treat with all the youngsters

Originally Posted by Tinykin

Yes I've noticed that young players don't particularly like feeding m-ball and many deliberately don't do it well. It's for a variety of reasons including some feel that they are giving their 'competition' too much help. Even when I see videos of those Chinese young players doing m-ball, their faces say that they are not really into it.
They will feed by blocking all day long, but multi-ball...maybe not.

But having said that, I have been to a German training camp where the multiball session was treated as part of a big end of day event. This went down a treat with all the youngsters

From the TT training environement I've been in, the child feeders are already great enough - even though they like it or not, it is working for overall improvemen通
And thats a culture i'm trying to introduce locally here.

A culture of high quality training - meaning you need to be loosing lots of calories, just like any hard work out in any other form of training or sports.
We have a huge shortage of top level coaches, have plenty of ITTF approved tables (thanks to Lotto funding), I have some balls (2000-3000), and but when i'm not there, people just fooling around and think that is training. They think playing a few matches, or some warm up rallies, totally 6 hours a week is called training........#hopeless, and that goes to our top players here too - kind of start training 10 hours a week, 1 or 2 weeks prior to international trips.

South Africa is very far behind, as you can see, they didn't even make the Commonwealth Games
As today is apparently World Lazy Day, I will let them get away with it, so I will stop my rant now
will continue tomorrow lol

But just imagine if you are a coach, with 20 students, on 10 tables, and each of them feeding to each other.
Coach can make adjustments to technique, walk around all the tables and step in when ever required
Now that is coaching like the Chinese (so much easier for the coach, and more improvement for the players)

Originally Posted by Tony's Table Tennis

A culture of high quality training -

Good luck to that.
It's something that we here in England also struggle with. The Germans and French seem to have it and it's paying off for them.

Originally Posted by Tinykin

Good luck to that.
It's something that we here in England also struggle with. The Germans and French seem to have it and it's paying off for them.

Why is it struggling there in England, possible to share you views?

[QUOTE=Tinykin;90272]Good luck to that.

Originally Posted by Tinykin

Good luck to that.
It's something that we here in England also struggle with. The Germans and French seem to have it and it's paying off for them.

Im not an official coach with a degree or something, but every player needs different approach so what I did in my club when I realized we need tons of improvement is to recognize players from my club or other clubs who have the enthusiasm to improve and sweat over the table.

One little trick Ive learned (by accident) even for lazy players is that if you approach them first and feed them multiball (to improve a weakness of theirs for example) is that 80 % of them will response positively if you spend some time with them till they see the significant importance of multiball in their game. Afterwards and once they see that multiball really rocks, you can kindly ask them to do the same thing for you (hehe they cant say no at that point, but if you proposed to them without feeding them, most of they players wont even try it)


One year ago everyone was playing loop against backspin / block and topspin/countertopspin exercises and some serve receive drills. Now most of the players reach me to do MB (in almost all the aspects of the game, short game/reflexes/footwork/smashing/chopping/bh fh transition/flicking etc etc) to each other, so if you wanna change something in your club make small sacrifices of your training in the beginning in order to help others and after a few months you will be amazed of the results...I didnt do anything special so anyone can do that, why wont be you? Good luck hope I helped

Originally Posted by Tony's Table Tennis

Why is it struggling there in England, possible to share you views?

I could go on ad naseum but it's a little late.
Anyway, one example, Although England invented so many sports, sport on a whole was seen more as a social activity with professionalism ( and all that it entails) looked down upon. So today, there are very few sports-halls in the country, but we have many Leisure centres where the sports are competing for space/time with activities line dancing. This unlike Germany and France where each community has its own true sportshall where they play sports.