China Super League 2017

WorkerBee · Feb 11, 2018

Any chance of a ranking list for the Super League players based on this past season in English? There might be some Lindt chocolate in it for you.

rainneverever · Feb 11, 2018

Women's Round 18
Wuhan 0:3 Shandong Luneng
1) Zhang Rui 1:3 Gu Yuting (11:8, 6:11, 7:11, 6:11)
2) Qian Tianyi 0:3 Zhu Yuling (2:11, 4:11, 7:11)
3) Feng Yalan / Qian Tianyi 1:2 Liu Gaoyang / Li Xiaodan (7:11, 11:9, 3:7)
4) Zhang Rui vs Zhu Yuling
5) Feng Yalan vs Liu Gaoyang

Qilu 3:2 Sichuan
1) Chen Xingtong 0:3 Guo Yan (12:14, 4:11, 12:14)
2) Wu Yang 3:0 Yuan Yuan (11:6, 11:8, 11:5)
3) Chen Xingtong 1:2 Yuan Yuan / Yang Huijing (7:11, 11:6, 6:8)
4) Wu Yang 3:0 Guo Yan (11:4, 11:3, 11:6)
5) Wen Jia 2:1 Yang Huijing (11:5, 7:11, 7:5)

Shanxi 0:3 PLA
1) Che Xiaoxi 2:3 Liu Xi (8:11, 11:4, 7:11, 11:4, 2:7)
2) Liu Ming 1:3 Sun Mingyang (12:10, 6:11, 5:11, 5:11)
3) Liu Ming / Wang Shu 0:2 Mu Zi / Liu Xi (2:11, 6:11)
4) Che Xiaoxi vs Sun Mingyang
5) Mu Jingyu vs Hu Limei

Longfu 0:3 Shenzhen
1) Li Jiayi 2:3 Sun Yingsha (11:8, 8:11, 11:8, 4:11, 2:7)
2) Feng Tianwei 2:3 Chen Meng (7:11, 12:10, 11:8, 8:11, 5:7)
3) Feng Tianwei / Zhang Qiang 1:2 Wang Yidi / Sun Yingsha (14:12, 9:11, 4:7)
4) Li Jiayi vs Chen Meng
5) Liu Fei vs Wang Yidi

Jilin 3:1 Beijing
1) Chen Ke 2:3 Li Jiayuan (11:7, 9:11, 4:11, 11:9, 6:8)
2) Wang Manyu 3:0 Zhao Lin (11:5, 11:8, 11:9)
3) Chen Ke / Yuan Xuejiao 2:0 Shu Chen / Sheng Dandan (11:8, 11:8)
4) Wang Manyu 3:0 Li Jiayuan (11:4, 11:8, 11:9)
5) Yuan Xuejiao vs Sun Chen

There is no Stage II (KO stage) this season. Wuhan is champion. Congrats!

Rank	Club	Win	Loss	Points
1	Wuhan	15	3	33
2	Shandong Luneng	14	4	32
3	Jilin	13	5	31
4	Shenzhen	13	5	31
5	Qilu	9	9	27
6	PLA	8	10	26
7	Shanxi	8	10	26
8	Beijing	6	12	24
9	Longfu	3	15	21
10	Sichuan	1	17	19

Sali · Feb 11, 2018

rainneverever said:
Men's Round 18
PLA 1:3 Bazhou
1) Zhou Kai 1:3 Liang Jingkun (10:12, 6:11, 11:9, 8:11)
2) Fan Zhendong 3:0 Yu Heyi (11:8, 11:7, 11:5)
3) Zhou Yu / Zhou Kai 1:2 Wang Chuqin / Yu Heyi (5:11, 11:8, 2:7)
4) Fan Zhendong 0:3 Liang Jingkun (9:11, 3:11, 9:11)
5) Zhou Yu vs Wang Chuqin

Sichuan 0:3 Shangdong Weiqiao
1) Xu Ruifeng 2:3 Xue Fei (11:8, 8:11, 7:11, 11:8, 3:7)
2) Yan Sheng 0:3 Yan An (16:18, 6:11, 7:11)
3) Zhu Linfeng / Yan Sheng 0:2 Lin Gaoyuan / Xue Fei (6:11, 9:11)
4) Xu Ruifeng vs Yan An
5) Zhu Linfeng vs Lin Gaoyuan

Anhui 3:2 Shanghai
1) Xi Sheng 0:3 Xu Xin (10:12, 2:11, 9:11)
2) Yu Ziyang 3:2 Zhao Zihao (11:13, 7:11, 11:9, 11:6, 7:2)
3) Zhou Qihao / Zhu Cheng 2:1 Cui Qinglei / Zhao Zihao (11:8, 14:16, 7:4)
4) Yu Ziyang 0:3 Xu Xin (6:11, 7:11, 15:17)
5) Zhou Qihao 2:1 Cui Qinglei (11:4, 9:11, 7:2)

Tianjin 3:1 Shandong Luneng
1) Ma Long 3:0 Xu Yingbin (11:7, 11:9, 11:3)
2) Ma Te 3:1 Fang Bo (11:6, 5:11, 12:10, 11:2)
3) Cheng Jingqi / Fang Yinchi 1:2 Zhang Chao / Liu Jikang (11:9, 12:14, 3:7)
4) Ma Long 3:0 Fang Bo (15:13, 11:4, 12:10)
5) Cheng Jingqi vs Zhang Chao

Jiangsu 3:2 Shenzhen
1) Sun Wen 1:3 Zheng Peifeng (7:11, 7:11, 13:11, 3:11)
2) Zhang Yudong 3:2 Hao Shuai (11:9, 12:10, 9:11, 6:11, 7:5)
3) Kong Lingxuan / Cai Wei 1:2 Ren Hao / Xu Chenhao (11:7, 3:11, 6:8)
4) Zhang Yudong 3:2 Zheng Peifeng (11:9, 10:12, 12:10, 7:11, 7:4)
5) Kong Lingxuan 2:1 Xu Chenhao (11:5, 4:11, 7:3)

There is no Stage II (KO stage) this season. Shandong Weiqiao is champion. Congrats!

Rank Club Win Loss Points
1 Shandong Weiqiao 14 4 32
2 PLA 12 6 30
3 Shandong Luneng 12 6 30
4 Bazhou 11 7 29
5 Tianjin 11 7 29
6 Shenzhen 10 8 28
7 Anhui 8 10 26
8 Shanghai 6 12 24
9 Jiangsu 5 13 23
10 Sichuan 1 17 19

Wow LJK on fire in the end od the season

rainneverever · Feb 11, 2018

Men's top 30

Rank	Player	Club	Win	Loss	Points
1	Ma Long	Tianjin	24	5	309.639
1	Fan Zhendong	PLA	23	6	309.639
3	Lin Gaoyuan	Shandong Weiqiao	22	5	302
4	Liang Jingkun	Bazhou	19	8	282.521
5	Fang Bo	Shandong Luneng	19	9	271.5
6	Xu Xin	Shanghai	18	10	266.99
7	Yan An	Shandong Weiqiao	17	10	233.585
8	Zhou Qihao	Anhui	21	12	203.75
9	Zhou Yu	PLA	18	13	195.75
10	Shang Kun	Shandong Luneng	19	11	190.566
11	Zhang Chao	Shandong Luneng	17	6	174.75
12	Ma Te	Tianjin	8	5	169.828
13	Liu Dingshuo	Tianjin	10	13	158.229
14	Zheng Peifeng	Shenzhen	9	14	155.386
15	Zhang Yudong	Jiangsu	13	15	154.696
16	Ren Hao	Shenzhen	13	10	150.382
17	Xu Chenhao	Shenzhen	14	7	149.358
18	Yu Ziyang	Anhui	10	17	148.78
19	Wang Chuqin	Bazhou	15	10	138.839
20	Cui Qinglei	Shanghai	6	22	131.125
21	Hao Shuai	Shenzhen	11	6	129.255
22	Xue Fei	Shandong Weiqiao	11	7	115.599
23	Zhou Kai	PLA	14	15	113.375
24	Zhu Linfeng	Sichuan	6	17	109.582
25	Yu Heyi	Bazhou	13	12	101.939
26	Kong Lingxuan	Jiangsu	8	16	97.25
27	Zhu Cheng	Anhui	13	9	94.9132
28	Zhao Zihao	Shanghai	6	23	78.875
29	Cheng Jingqi	Tianjin	6	13	78.625
30	Xia Yizheng	Shandong Weiqiao	8	5	77

Women's top 30

Rank	Player	Club	Win	Loss	Points
1	Liu Shiwen	Wuhan	28	2	338.819
2	Wang Manyu	Jilin	23	6	299.931
3	Chen Meng	Shenzhen	21	8	289.177
4	Zhu Yuling	Shandong Luneng	20	7	283
5	Ding Ning	Beijing	18	5	260.307
6	Mu Zi	PLA	12	9	225.208
7	Wu Yang	Qilu	13	9	207.733
8	Li Jiayi	Longfu	19	14	207
9	Che Xiaoxi	Shanxi	16	11	202.646
10	Sun Yingsha	Shenzhen	19	10	180.582
11	Chen Xingtong	Qilu	15	19	178.625
12	Gu Yuting	Shandong Luneng	10	4	176.004
13	Yuan Xuejiao	Jilin	14	13	172
14	Feng Yalan	Wuhan	14	8	171.09
15	Chen Ke	Jilin	19	17	155.5
16	Li Xiaodan	Shandong Luneng	14	3	153.71
17	Wen Jia	Qilu	10	13	149.358
18	Wang Yidi	Shenzhen	17	7	143.625
19	Hu Limei	PLA	7	5	140
20	Sun Mingyang	PLA	7	14	122.257
21	Liu Gaoyang	Shandong Luneng	16	5	121.406
22	Feng Tianwei	Longfu	9	16	120.031
23	Li Jiayuan	Beijing	4	14	111.493
24	Liu Ming	Shanxi	12	10	106.458
25	Sheng Dandan	Beijing	6	11	104.785
26	Qian Tianyi	Wuhan	10	9	93.4375
27	Guo Yan	Sichuan	8	16	91.8316
28	Zhang Rui	Wuhan	6	9	91.1111
29	Guo Yuhan	Beijing	5	8	84.4333
30	Wang Shu	Shanxi	8	6	83.1389

rainneverever · Feb 11, 2018

LSW secured #1 rank (a.k.a MVP) before Round 18. However, it was not clear who would be men's MVP until all matches of Round 18 were over. Interestingly, FZD and ML got the exact same ranking points. At the beginning, CTTSL website showed FZD was #1 and ML #2. There were debates on social media and Chinese TT forums that how should MVP be determined when tied. Some thought both should be #1 based on the ranking points (a system similar to old ITTF world ranking rating points); some argued ML should be #1 because he has higher winning ratio (24 out of 29) than FZD (23 out of 29); some argued that FZD should be #1 because he beat ML. Later, CTTSL website changed to FZD #1, ML #1 and changed again to ML #1, FZD #1. Table Tennis Magazine (official magazine of CTTA) said both ML and FZD are MVPs this season and will be awarded 100,000 RMB prize money each (not shared).

drunix80 · Feb 12, 2018

rainneverever said:
LSW secured #1 rank (a.k.a MVP) before Round 18. However, it was not clear who would be men's MVP until all matches of Round 18 were over. Interestingly, FZD and ML got the exact same ranking points. At the beginning, CTTSL website showed FZD was #1 and ML #2. There were debates on social media and Chinese TT forums that how should MVP be determined when tied. Some thought both should be #1 based on the ranking points (a system similar to old ITTF world ranking rating points); some argued ML should be #1 because he has higher winning ratio (24 out of 29) than FZD (23 out of 29); some argued that FZD should be #1 because he beat ML. Later, CTTSL website changed to FZD #1, ML #1 and changed again to ML #1, FZD #1. Table Tennis Magazine (official magazine of CTTA) said both ML and FZD are MVPs this season and will be awarded 100,000 RMB prize money each (not shared).

Even an injured (and new dad) Ma Long can still kick everybody's ass. One word for the man - RESPECT !!!

RidTheKid · Feb 12, 2018

Indeed. I've watched every match so far and can say with confidence that Ma Long hasn't played on more than 80% of his potential (he's looked quite mortal in several matches), meaning when he gets back in his full stride again nothing will stop him.

drunix80 said:
Even an injured (and new dad) Ma Long can still kick everybody's ass. One word for the man - RESPECT !!!

LikeTT · Feb 13, 2018

LikeTT · Feb 13, 2018

WorkerBee · Feb 13, 2018

To see how Tomokazu Harimoto would fare in the Super League, watch Liang JingKun. Tomo is a little faster but JingKun is a little stronger, their tactics are very similar. Would love to see them play one day. Any one notice that JingKun is number 4 in the Super League, and number 80 in the ITTF?

RidTheKid · Feb 13, 2018

LJK has never really succeded internationally, lacks somewhat in the mental game still.

WorkerBee said:
To see how Tomokazu Harimoto would fare in the Super League, watch Liang JingKun. Tomo is a little faster but JingKun is a little stronger, their tactics are very similar. Would love to see them play one day. Any one notice that JingKun is number 4 in the Super League, and number 80 in the ITTF?

Jimbob MacInbred · Feb 13, 2018

Very happy for LSW. She seems to be in good shape. I'll be even happier if she wins in Budapest next year, even though it is somewhat of a long shot, unfortunately...
It is also quite shocking to see XX as well as Sun Yingsha and Chen Xingtong with that many losses.

quanghuysk · Feb 13, 2018

RidTheKid said:
LJK has never really succeded internationally, lacks somewhat in the mental game still.

That has been said for Ma Long previously. And now?

Junting · Feb 13, 2018

Actually LJK and TH have already had a match in 2017 Japan Open. The result was that LJK 4-1 TH. But since TH is becoming stronger and stronger, and LJK seems very unstable in international events, it is hard to predict who will win when they rematch.

WorkerBee said:
To see how Tomokazu Harimoto would fare in the Super League, watch Liang JingKun. Tomo is a little faster but JingKun is a little stronger, their tactics are very similar. Would love to see them play one day. Any one notice that JingKun is number 4 in the Super League, and number 80 in the ITTF?

NextLevel · Feb 13, 2018

quanghuysk said:
That has been said for Ma Long previously. And now?

That's apples to oranges. Ma Long was first team on CNT when people said he struggled internationally. It was an extremely subtle statement. Who knows, maybe he would still be struggling if we were still using the celluloid ball...

RidTheKid · Feb 13, 2018

LJK has all the right tools technically if you ask me. He only lacks the mental toughness. If he develops that aspect of his game there's no telling how far he can go. He always seem to give ML a difficult time when they meet.

quanghuysk said:
That has been said for Ma Long previously. And now?

quanghuysk · Feb 13, 2018

RidTheKid said:
LJK has all the right tools technically if you ask me. He only lacks the mental toughness. If he develops that aspect of his game there's no telling how far he can go. He always seem to give ML a difficult time when they meet.

That's right, dude. I just want to say that never say never

He is still young and and able to improve his mental toughness as well as his technique.

NextLevel · Feb 13, 2018

RidTheKid said:
LJK has all the right tools technically if you ask me. He only lacks the mental toughness. If he develops that aspect of his game there's no telling how far he can go. He always seem to give ML a difficult time when they meet.

He doesn't have variation and he is not as fast as Fan Zhendong so his forehand is worse. He is right now in many ways just a lower level Fan Zhendong. I think he needs to lose weight like Fan has.

Sali · Feb 13, 2018

NextLevel said:
He doesn't have variation and he is not as fast as Fan Zhendong so his forehand is worse. He is right now in many ways just a lower level Fan Zhendong. I think he needs to lose weight like Fan has.

What do you mean by fast, look at how early he takes the ball both with BH and FH. Of course he could improve his footwork, but that kind of things we can say about each player. Last year he beat all players in china and thanks to him his team went to final. So I wouldn't say he needs much improvement in technique or footwork. Mainly it is mental and maybe also strategy. Look how often he leads with great players and then somehow he cannot finish the match.

NextLevel · Feb 13, 2018

Sali said:
What do you mean by fast, look at how early he takes the ball both with BH and FH. Of course he could improve his footwork, but that kind of things we can say about each player. Last year he beat all players in china and thanks to him his team went to final. So I wouldn't say he needs much improvement in technique or footwork. Mainly it is mental and maybe also strategy. Look how often he leads with great players and then somehow he cannot finish the match.

Nothing you said addressed the point I made. And since I said he lacks variation, that is the same thing as your saying it is mental and strategy. Fan Zhendong can make up for his relative lack of variation with his ability to move and be extremely consistent. If you think LJK is as fast as Fan, let me know. It is hard to move faster without dropping some weight. Just a fact of sports.

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