Amazed by the low weight of the Palio AK74 rubbers... wow.

lVegita · Sep 7, 2018

Lightzy said:
Hire me

I think I might need a business first haha

Lightzy said:
Your first racket though?

Well, the first real one. I'm currently playing with a premade DHS.

Ordered an Yinhe Earth 3 to go with the rubbers. Should be well controlled

patelaaaa · Sep 7, 2018

Lightzy said:
B2 is like H3 if you increase almost all it's properties (tackiness, speed, spinniness) and make it also good in drives. It's a direct upgrade as I see it. It does not feel like the hybrids.
I can't play with it now though because of summer where I live being like 98% humidity and humidity really kills the tackiness until you clean and dry the rubber..

If you want a rubber that feels more like a hybrid and is very, very good, try Skyline 3-60 maybe. B2 is more 'traditional' feeling. Both are more spin sensitive than euro-style rubbers.

What I really liked about AK47 is how non-spin-sensitive it is btw. It makes active blocking a breeze. Much more difficult with the tacky rubbers.

Got it. Thanks for the elaborated explanation.

Simas · Sep 8, 2018

So received my Palio too. The problem was I tried to buy a cheap replacement for my BH Donic Bluefire, so ordered a red one. Unfortunately, received a blue one which is the soft sponge version... Wrote a message to seller and he didn't bother to respond. (The sellers has the most orders and rating for Palio). After waiting for half a week or so, wrote a complaint to Aliexpress. They were quick to respond and refunded me the whole amount. So I'd say Aliexpress service is on par with Amazon.

So got a free rubber, but not the one I needed. Anyways, swapped it with my Bluefire. First impressions are that it is not the one for me. (I like harder sponges, especially with my Stiga OC). So as expected, a little bit too mushy, the through angle seems to be on the lower side, didn't find the increase in spinning ability... Will keep it for a couple of weeks to give them some more play.

Besides that, the quality seems nice (especially for the price level). Also got a free plastic sheet protector (but again, not the right one for AK47) -not a sticky one, but for tacky rubbers, so will use with my H3Neo).

hipnotic · Sep 11, 2018

These rubbers are very fragile, especially the blue. I was removing the rubber from the DHS301 and i haven't sealed the blade yet, the rubber just disintegrated! So my advice is to seal the blade before you glue this rubber.

lVegita · Sep 11, 2018

hipnotic said:
These rubbers are very fragile, especially the blue. I was removing the rubber from the DHS301 and i haven't sealed the blade yet, the rubber just disintegrated! So my advice is to seal the blade before you glue this rubber.

Good to know!
Is shellac good to seal the blade?
I have some around, but I heard it hardens the wood.

hipnotic · Sep 11, 2018

lVegita said:
Good to know!
Is shellac good to seal the blade?
I have some around, but I heard it hardens the wood.

I suppose it would work, and I really doubt that it would harden the wood. First, shellac is soft, second, if applied by the "boneca" method goes in very thin layers. I just don't know if it would be very durable.

patelaaaa · Sep 11, 2018

I'm using regular elmer rubber cement when replacing rubbers and helps in re-using the rubbers as its easy to remove from the sponge. I had bad experience with tear mender, which damaged the sponge on one of the rubbers. While attaching a new/used rubber to the blade with elmer cement after its dry, I don't apply much pressure. Just enough pressure with a roller would get rid of the unwanted air bubbles and will keep the tension in the rubber intact, and makes it easier to remove the glue from the rubber when its time to replace, with out causing damage to the grain of the blade.

I did not had problem while removing Palio AK47 blue off my DHS H301 btw. The blade is not varnished/lacquered.

hipnotic · Sep 11, 2018

patelaaaa said:
I'm using regular elmer rubber cement when replacing rubbers and helps in re-using the rubbers as its easy to remove from the sponge. I had bad experience with tear mender, which damaged the sponge on one of the rubbers. While attaching a new/used rubber to the blade with elmer cement after its dry, I don't apply much pressure. Just enough pressure with a roller would get rid of the unwanted air bubbles and will keep the tension in the rubber intact, and makes it easier to remove the glue from the rubber when its time to replace, with out causing damage to the grain of the blade.

I did not had problem while removing Palio AK47 blue off my DHS H301 btw. The blade is not varnished/lacquered.

I think i used copydex wich is similar to tear mender. I've read somewhere that the bond as a tendecy to get stronger over time and maybe that's what happened. I didn't have problems removing the rubber on the side that was already sealed.

Lightzy · Sep 12, 2018

The blue is so soft sponged that when you take it off the blade the sponge will tear into shreds. It's one of the softest sponges I've ever seen.
Yellow and red, no.

hipnotic · Sep 12, 2018

Lightzy said:
The blue is so soft sponged that when you take it off the blade the sponge will tear into shreds. It's one of the softest sponges I've ever seen.
Yellow and red, no.

Because of that i had to go buy a rubber last minute to play a tournament on saturday. On another note, i tried the B2 on the blade i made and totally changed my opinion about the rubber. It's great and it's gonna stay on the FH.

Nate4s · Sep 14, 2018

I got my Palio AK47-Yellow rubbers just two days ago and finally got a chance to try them out. I think it's really great for the price.

Combined with making my own all-wood blades for around $10-15ea, I can build a really nice paddle for beginners for under $30. I let a few beginners try it out, and they were able to produce a ton more power and spin than with their pre-assembled paddles.

Unfortunately, I find the rubber just isn't grippy enough to produce to kind of spin I am looking for - I find that the ball doesn't bite in much during passive blocks, so I need to use a very flat blade angle to get shots over the net. If I'm hitting softer shots, I find I need to either hit flat or heavily brush the ball to get it do what I want.

I'm happy I've found these rubbers, since I can suggest them to the large group of beginners I play with so they aren't breaking the bank. Personally, it's worth it to me to continue paying for Vega Pro, Fastarc G-1, and Rakza 7.

Tajny1989 · Sep 16, 2018

lVegita · Sep 16, 2018

Hey, I saw a racket today with a rubber (Xiom Omega V) that shrinked about 2mm.
It got me thinking, does AK47 shrink after glued?
Can I cut it fit to the blade, or should I let it some millimeters bigger?

Same question for 729 Battle II.

OrienteTT · Sep 16, 2018

i have bought several Ak 47 rubbers (blue and red) for my club kids, and one year after none of them shrunk. So I gess there is no Booster in them.

lVegita · Sep 17, 2018

OrienteTT said:
i have bought several Ak 47 rubbers (blue and red) for my club kids, and one year after none of them shrunk. So I gess there is no Booster in them.

Thanks for the answer, OrienteTT! (you were between the ones that recommended me this rubber

)

Does anyone know if Battle II shrinks? Or only tensor rubbers shrink?

Atas Newton · Sep 17, 2018

My Battle II didn't shrink, my AK 47 however did shrink the next morning after I glued it.

lVegita · Sep 17, 2018

Atas Newton said:
My Battle II didn't shrink, my AK 47 however did shrink the next morning after I glued it.

Thanks for the answer! How much did it shrink?

Maybe red and blue does not shrink, but yellow does, although it doesn't make much sense. Or maybe it is the gluing method, or it's temper...

Anyways, I got yellow as well, gonna leave a few extra millimeters just to make sure.

Atas Newton · Sep 17, 2018

It mainly shrunk along the vertical axis (from handle and up) and it was a considerable amount, like 2mm at the top. I still glue rubbers with old non water based glues but this was the first rubber that shrunk like that.

Simas · Sep 17, 2018

I play with medium to harder sponges and got soft blue sponge by accident. Not having much of experience with softer sponges (except MarkV long time ago

), just out of curiosity I was wondering how soft actually it is compared to other well established soft sponges like Vega Europe, Rakza 7soft, etc?

killiegradge · Sep 17, 2018

I suspect the glues used are to blame.Perhaps the safe glues dont have the efect of others but they do at least make the rubbers interchangeable and are predictable?

Amazed by the low weight of the Palio AK74 rubbers... wow.

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