A what if boosting rubber scenario?

[JackJohnson]

There was a question that someone asked on Reddit about boosting rubbers the other day but no one seems to have an answer:

“Do you know if anyone has had any action taken against them for boosting? Like if one was to inform every official involved that you boosted your rubbers yourself before every single game you played will they do anything even when it's passing the racquet control test?”

I expect no one wants to find out though if it's never happened. If pro players were to be asked they would say they don’t boost or the rubbers were boosted at the factory.”

It makes no sense to allow factory boosting but players can’t boost their own rubbers themselves and the current racquet control tests are useless for detecting booster as many players pass the test.

This is not including the Jishan Liang incident last year where he failed the racquet control test due to sponge being thicker than the ittf requirements as many players boost their rubbers and still pass the racquet control test.

If players like Wang Chuqin, Fan Zhendong or Ma Long were to admit or get caught boosting their rubbers themselves before every game would ITTF penalised them in some way such as disqualifying their results from all events, olympics and championships won etc due to boosting their own rubbers themselves like if they were caught taking anti-doping drugs in other sports.

 

[the-don]

All pros boost.
So if there was a sanction it would be against every single player who participated in the Olympics, world championships, etc.

 

[JackJohnson]

All pros boost.
So if there was a sanction it would be against every single player who participated in the Olympics, world championships, etc.

Yea so it seems ITTF is quite relaxed on boosting even if you do it yourself. Many players would have been sanction/penalised by now.

Any reason why ITTF doesn’t allow players to boost their own rubbers but allows factory boosting. If ITTF did decide to start sanctioning/penalising players I could see this be taken to court with the current rules of factory boosting being allowed and player boosting rubbers themselves makes no difference.

 

[the-don]

Yea so it seems ITTF is quite relaxed on boosting even if you do it yourself. Many players would have been sanction/penalised by now.

Any reason why ITTF doesn’t allow players to boost their own rubbers but allows factory boosting. If ITTF did decide to start sanctioning/penalising players I could see this be taken to court with the current rules of factory boosting being allowed and player boosting rubbers themselves makes no difference.

There were cases of players sanctioned when the speed glue ban was a new thing.
But eventually that stopped happening.
Ittf and players are part of the same organization in a way....they don't want top players to suffer.

As for why they don't allow you to boost.....simple......to make more money.
If you can't boost you are forced to change rubbers more often.

It's funny that ittf doesn't care yet in amateur scene I've seen quite a few who are against boosting, simply because they don't want to break the rules.

 

[Tyce]

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If you can't boost you are forced to change rubbers more often.

Eh? How?
Speed glue meant you could throw away a sheet of rubber after glueing 4-5 times or so.
Boosting wears out the sponge too, so rubber wears out quicker when you boost it. Not as radical as with speed glue but still.

 

[igorponger]

Non expert talks. Factory boosting got disallowed since a long time ago in accordance to ITTF M4 regulations.
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[the-don]

Eh? How?
Speed glue meant you could throw away a sheet of rubber after glueing 4-5 times or so.
Boosting wears out the sponge too, so rubber wears out quicker when you boost it. Not as radical as with speed glue but still.

Nonsense trolling.
Multiple boosting enlarges the life of a rubber, not the contrary.
Now if you see the rubber a little worn out and throw it away like it was a freezbe it's your problem, not the rubber.

 

[Sims]

All pros boost.
So if there was a sanction it would be against every single player who participated in the Olympics, world championships, etc.

No it wouldn't.
Are you saying that every player using D09c and D05 is boosting it before every match?
That's absolutely not the case.
As for those who do boost, it's Chinese rubbers that really need it, and every player would have to admit to it before a sanction could be applied.
So back to the original question, what would the ITTF do to a top player if he admitted to, or was caught boosting?

 

[Lazer]

Nonsense trolling.
Multiple boosting enlarges the life of a rubber, not the contrary.
Now if you see the rubber a little worn out and throw it away like it was a freezbe it's your problem, not the rubber.

No, boosting is the opposite. It’s chemically resolving the rubber. so you are actually destroying it…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Tyce]

Nonsense trolling.
Multiple boosting enlarges the life of a rubber, not the contrary.
Now if you see the rubber a little worn out and throw it away like it was a freezbe it's your problem, not the rubber.

No nonsense, no trolling. You disregarding a post with actual explanations and information is closer to trolling than someone taking time and effort to react to you.

Boosting wears out the sponge, making it mushy and unplayable when done too often. This information is widely available and certainly no attempt to troll.
Not boosting a rubber makes it simply last longer. It won't have the performance of a boosted rubber, but that was such an open door I didn't think I needed to mention it.

Now if you're talking about factory boosted rubbers, and extending performance using booster, you have some sort of a point. But you don't say that, you don't use any specifics, you just bash on someone asking what the hell you mean by the minimal information you cared to provide.

So congratulations, you pissed me off *and* got an actual elaborate answer. Not sure what more you want

 

[igorponger]

𝚆𝙷𝚈 𝙲𝙷𝙸𝙽𝙰 𝙽𝙰𝚃𝙸𝙾𝙽𝙰𝙻 𝙿𝙻𝙰𝚈𝙴𝚁𝚂 𝙻𝙾𝙾𝙺𝙸𝙽𝙶 around 𝙵𝙾𝚁 𝚂𝙾𝙼𝙴 𝙰𝙻𝚃𝙴𝚁𝙽𝙰𝚃𝙸𝚅𝙴 𝙱𝙾𝙾𝚂𝚃𝙴𝚁𝚂.

In view of the impending due-for-all tests for boosters with an advanced pocket-size device, China CTTA recently called up all the domestic manufacturers asking for an alternative boosting method other than common oily compounds. ©Yinhe Galaxy was the first factory to reply.

Image enclosed by courtesy of Linkedin developer. The device now submitted for ITTF ultimate expertise. Rather costly one, yet very effectual.

 

[the-don]

No nonsense, no trolling. You disregarding a post with actual explanations and information is closer to trolling than someone taking time and effort to react to you.

Boosting wears out the sponge, making it mushy and unplayable when done too often. This information is widely available and certainly no attempt to troll.
Not boosting a rubber makes it simply last longer. It won't have the performance of a boosted rubber, but that was such an open door I didn't think I needed to mention it.

Now if you're talking about factory boosted rubbers, and extending performance using booster, you have some sort of a point. But you don't say that, you don't use any specifics, you just bash on someone asking what the hell you mean by the minimal information you cared to provide.

So congratulations, you pissed me off *and* got an actual elaborate answer. Not sure what more you want

sure if you boost 100 times eventually you destroy the rubber.
What factories want is you never boosting the rubber.

The best solution is somewhere in the middle.
Boost until rubber has had enough, then replace.

The benefit of boosting is rather small so for amateurs it probably doesn't make sense other than the whole curiosity of doing it.

 

[mcfly]

But to be honest most people in this forum don't really need booster and the benefit would be almost meaningless to them.

could be true. but the benefit having a boosted rubber on the paddle could change the game during a rally at 9-9 when you are out of position…

 

[Sims]

Nonsense trolling.
Multiple boosting enlarges the life of a rubber, not the contrary.
Now if you see the rubber a little worn out and throw it away like it was a freezbe it's your problem, not the rubber.

Don
You telling someone they are trolling is one of the more ridiculous things I've seen in here.
How many crazy posts have you made and deleted? Also entire threads you've wanted to delete. More recently your 'pay to beat WCQ rubber' thread where you couldn't explain to anyone what you were actually talking about.
But you also told Tony that you played professional TT, right? Or is that post deleted now also?
Anyway, as an anonymous ex pro can you please explain why it is you can't add any info towards answering the original question and also how it is that you don't know that chemical boosting degrades the sponge and shortens it's useful life.
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