Chuang Chih Yuan

[Tony's Table Tennis]

In a recent thread, I mentioned Chuang is the only 40 year old active player, that is playing at a high level in the world (currently WR17), who is also an active coach (for almost 10 years or so now) and built a table tennis center (2 floors of playing space, gym, dorm etc) in his name (the centre is run by his brother, but Chuang is very active in it)

Of course there will always be one person who don't believe me and call out, "how about Boll or Samsonov etc"
I do speak under correction - no other 40 year old (active or retired) that I can think of was a player at 40 years old and have another of the other two boxes, ticked.
Chuang has all 3 and that deserved a mention on this forum!


Chuang is also a record holder:

This was yesterday. So today, it is now 561 matches, or 4 more matches to go until he breaks that record and to be number 1 of all time matches played.
Sadly, he lost 2-3 today, so his match count from Contender Ammen has halted.

However, this doesn't mean he is done at Ammen.

He will be back on the coaches corner for Kao Cheng-Jui, who will face Chuang's old friend, Dima later today.
Kao went into the R16, while Chuang was knocked out in the R32.

Here is a photo of Chuang sitting at Kao's court during the qualification rounds.

 

[Attitude]

Your title throwing simply cant neglect CCYs work and other achievements FOR the sport itself and not just himself. He is a great sportsman and awesome play, maybe not as big as other mentioned players, but either way a huge name, who many ppl dont even recognize.

Your writing here is just rude, narrow minded and a plain disturbance to the topic, nothing more.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I blocked this old user guy.
Saw ignored member content after TTD1 and Attitude's reply.
Indeed the reading is a is a waste of my time.
I do hope TTD can be updated during the next update, so these ignored memeber can't see my posts and pollute it with text pollution.

For me to add onto OP:
A player is for himself.
A coach is for others or himself (could be his job post playing days)
Building a table tennis center is way bigger than himself and others.

Chuang is not just a high level player, but is making a huge impact for the generations to come - and all privately. This is NOT an easy task. He could be best rank 13 or 30, I will still have the same view.

For the ones that don't know....
Selling your investment properties that Chuang and his parent has accumulated over decades to build a TT center? means a lot. Jerry Guo only came onboard after this center was built to help cover operations costs. The building was all done by Chuangs. I can't remember the exact number of properties that was sold.

Chuang could easily play and be a coach and kept all those properties for retirement and past onto his kids. He could LIVE very comfortably. But putting all those monies in a TT center means TRUE PASSION and devotion. AND, a lot of hard work for the rest of his life. He is never going to retire.

It is easy for Chuang to retire when his WR went to the 20s/30s for the first time in decade plus, but at 40 he decided to make it back into the top 20 and has a goal of top 10....

Its easy for people to talk loud about table tennis subjects, however it is very difficult for people to talk with their monies, by putting their own monies into sports for others. Chuang has done all kinds of talking and action possible.
A good debate would be - Indeed, who else has done better, or gotten even close? With a motive to praise all those goods achievers.

 

[Gozo Aruna]

I blocked this old user guy.
Saw ignored member content after TTD1 and Attitude's reply.
Indeed the reading is a is a waste of my time.
I do hope TTD can be updated during the next update, so these ignored memeber can't see my posts and pollute it with text pollution.

For me to add onto OP:
A player is for himself.
A coach is for others or himself (could be his job post playing days)
Building a table tennis center is way bigger than himself and others.

Chuang is not just a high level player, but is making a huge impact for the generations to come - and all privately. This is NOT an easy task. He could be best rank 13 or 30, I will still have the same view.

For the ones that don't know....
Selling your investment properties that Chuang and his parent has accumulated over decades to build a TT center? means a lot. Jerry Guo only came onboard after this center was built to help cover operations costs. The building was all done by Chuangs. I can't remember the exact number of properties that was sold.

Chuang could easily play and be a coach and kept all those properties for retirement and past onto his kids. He could LIVE very comfortably. But putting all those monies in a TT center means TRUE PASSION and devotion. AND, a lot of hard work for the rest of his life. He is never going to retire.

It is easy for Chuang to retire when his WR went to the 20s/30s for the first time in decade plus, but at 40 he decided to make it back into the top 20 and has a goal of top 10....

Its easy for people to talk loud about table tennis subjects, however it is very difficult for people to talk with their monies, by putting their own monies into sports for others. Chuang has done all kinds of talking and action possible.
A good debate would be - Indeed, who else has done better, or gotten even close? With a motive to praise all those goods achievers.

CCY, you are my hero.

 

[ricospin]

CCY is amazing. A couple of friends told me he was insanely quick when he played in the last year. I can't imagine him in his prime. Very underrated player that people don't talk enough about.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

6 year ago today (Facebook memories)

 

[Table Tennis Reborn]

A legend of the game, hes competed with the top pros for so long

 

[DukeGaGa]

Anyone not seen this before?

 

[tropical]

Everyone is unique!

Boll achieves more than CCY in table tennis for sure, but he doesn't have the other 2 (coaching and owner of a table tennis center) as the OP suggests. However, Boll is one of the top 10 richest table tennis players in the world (as of 2022), a task that CCY may never be able to achieve. To get in such position he must play and get a lot of endorsements.

Samsonov is another one to wonder. Besides his TT achievements he is a polyglot, speaking Russian, English, German, Serbian, and Spanish. I don't think Boll or CCY can master such skills.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Anyone not seen this before?

I was LIVE.

Chuang hosted 2 of these "invitationals", he had a corporate (Tai Bin) who was willing to sponsor him to host these events, since Taiwan didn't had any ITTF senior opens (only juniors), so Chuang and his team hosted 2 (years) of this to promote table tennis in his own town.

All the juniors from his centre was doing duty.
It was a super big thing of what Chuang did, getting all stars to his city that has NEVER hosted any international event.

Taipei, the capital would host world junior circuits, and decades ago, Pro Tour for senior. Taipei also hosted the World University Games.
So Chuang did so much things for Kaohsiung (his home city), and he doesn't go about telling the world about it. He is not that kind of guy that will go wanting the front page news.

In Taiwan, people call Chuang the father of table tennis.

 

[Table Tennis Reborn]

Gatien has won more than him, and he's never considered as a legend of that sport, he was only 1 match far to win the 3 Grand Slam competitions in a 2 years span:
Runner up Olympics Barcelona 92, lost to the GOAT Waldner.
Winner WTTC 93
Winner World Cup 94

Some people do not know the TT history and talk BS here.

Gatien is considered a legend though?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I see the same troll continues to not understand and comprehend that this thread is not being about a player only.

Here is the coaching + tt center part, showing 1 man doing so much for the sport, while keeping active and competitive himself too. That is a one difficult task. Just ask any player/coach that question.

This is a recent photo (yesterday) and this photo has the coaching team + all Chuang's players from the TT center.

There is a couple of WTT junior ranked players already.
IE Junior boy no 2 (who is also senior 129) and Junior girl no 21 (who is also senior 167).
Whats quite cool is, Chuang brings some of these kids with on tour, to act as his practice partner. At times, you would even see his student sitting on his coach corner.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Everyone is unique!

Boll achieves more than CCY in table tennis for sure, but he doesn't have the other 2 (coaching and owner of a table tennis center) as the OP suggests. However, Boll is one of the top 10 richest table tennis players in the world (as of 2022), a task that CCY may never be able to achieve. To get in such position he must play and get a lot of endorsements.

Samsonov is another one to wonder. Besides his TT achievements he is a polyglot, speaking Russian, English, German, Serbian, and Spanish. I don't think Boll or CCY can master such skills.

If Chuang didn't invest all his money into his TT center and raising so many students, Chuang would be a lot more richer than what he is today.

I some times wonder, what the legends of the yester years are doing for the sport today
It is difficult to stay in the sport, since you spend your whole life in it. So lots of them are more in the back end position, or in administration roles.
How many exactly is on the ground, grooming the next?

WSA was a former world champ doing what Chuang did (just not matching "active player"), but WSA didn't last too long...

 

[Lula]

It is always cool when good players (that probably got a lot of thelp in their developement) is giving back!

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

It is always cool when good players (that probably got a lot of thelp in their developement) is giving back!

From what I know, Chuang's helper was his mom.
he didn't get much outside support, until he got famous
So the full grass root was his mom.

Mom was a national player in her days, and elder brother started training first.
Chuang just like other young siblings ended up loving it too.
Mom, knew what was required, made sure Chuang was going to learn shakehand (while everyone else was still using jpen), and started to groom him. It was a tough journey, an expensive journey.
It was also a time when the Tainan gang (over 20 years of champions/ many generations from Tainan City), was unbeatable in Taiwan.

I recall Chuang saying something like, when he was already pretty good and going to train with provincial teams in China, his mom had to sell things to keep up with his costs of training, and that included properties.
I have no idea how much properties the family had, but they sold maybe half a dozen in the past 2 to 3 decades to keep Chuang's passion for the sport going.

I think it is because he didn't get much outside support in his early days, that is why he built a tt center, to ensure kids get proper support early on.
Through his sponsors, these top kids also benefit directly too.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Table Tennis Tony, Old User, tabletennis1, please try to be civil to each other even if you don't agree with each other.

There are lots of different ways to look at an issue. You can each explain your side without making it personal or derogatory about the other.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Carl, you probably been too busy of late, so will assume you haven't been following.

I started a thread, and this troll is coming to harass people in my thread.
His socialist views started in another thread (apparently in his eyes, Chuang is a product of French socialist system), and I started a new thread since Chuang deserves better.

But, guess who wants to degrade this thread too?
I have put him on the ignore list, but I am seeing so many replies directed with his trolling attempts.
Do something about it please.

Old User can go and start another thread about legends, as a player, who are better than Chuang.

In this thread, I am asking you as a mod to ask trolls to stay within the lines or the intention of this thread and if they are trolling, you should do something about it. If you don't understand why so many people are fustrated, read OP and the criteria given on Chuang's achievements.

Can't believe he even brings another player into the equation (Gatien), that doesn't even meet the criteria. If you don't stop him, he will bring every living and deceased legend into this thread.

Tony, you still can be civil and the idea that in a report your wrote "Mod Is Clueless" well, if I was the type who got annoyed at something like that my answer would be different. All I am trying to do is calm things down. Just ignore and answer your side of it. You are answering your side of it. Just leave out the insulting comments about the person you feel is trolling and not getting it.

I saw what your side was. You are talking about him as a someone who is making an impact on the sport for the future with coaching and a TT center. You can state those things without mentioning someone who you feel is not understanding what you are presenting.

Unfortunately, the reality of table tennis forums is, people respond without understanding certain things. You can just provide the extra information without getting riled up by him. I am confident you can.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Carl, he is trolling.
from another thread, to this thread, on the same topic

look at the date, the time stamp, look at everyone who has replied to him
he isn't giving up.

How do you define troll?
Is that not trolling, what is?
For this, I feel you are clueless, and I won't be shy to point that out.

Is there any other mods out there? or they all become normal users now?

Yes. I get that. There is this saying: "DON'T FEED THE TROLLS." So, all I am asking is, don't feed the trolls.

Do me a favor, go back and scan through the thread from the beginning. Thanks.

If everyone deleted mention of him, and just left the positive stuff about CCY, you would have no record of the off topic trolling but lots of nice info about all that CCY is doing that is positive for the table tennis community.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Yes. I get that. There is this saying: "DON'T FEED THE TROLLS." So, all I am asking is, don't feed the trolls.

Do me a favor, go back and scan through the thread from the beginning. Thanks.

If everyone deleted mention of him, and just left the positive stuff about CCY, you would have no record of the off topic trolling but lots of nice info about all that CCY is doing that is positive for the table tennis community.

I started REPORT since the 1st trolling attempt over a week ago.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who reported.
Glad you showed up today.

I only replied to keep the good news going, since nothing was done with the reporting.

and I hope @Dan can look at proper blocking features, not just ignore list features for the next update.
for example, since I "block" old user, then he can't see what I do, and the threads I created. I think that would be a lot more cleaner and peaceful space to be in.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

In a recent thread, I mentioned Chuang is the only 40 year old active player, that is playing at a high level in the world (currently WR17), who is also an active coach (for almost 10 years or so now) and built a table tennis center (2 floors of playing space, gym, dorm etc) in his name (the centre is run by his brother, but Chuang is very active in it)

Of course there will always be one person who don't believe me and call out, "how about Boll or Samsonov etc"
I do speak under correction - no other 40 year old (active or retired) that I can think of was a player at 40 years old and have another of the other two boxes, ticked.
Chuang has all 3 and that deserved a mention on this forum!


Chuang is also a record holder:

This was yesterday. So today, it is now 561 matches, or 4 more matches to go until he breaks that record and to be number 1 of all time matches played.
Sadly, he lost 2-3 today, so his match count from Contender Ammen has halted.

However, this doesn't mean he is done at Ammen.

He will be back on the coaches corner for Kao Cheng-Jui, who will face Chuang's old friend, Dima later today.
Kao went into the R16, while Chuang was knocked out in the R32.

Here is a photo of Chuang sitting at Kao's court during the qualification rounds.

Tony. I am not sure why those files are not showing. See if you can edit and re-add the content that is no longer showing.