CNT ditched Wang Manyu for WTTC in Doha 2025

[SFF_lib]

The recent Asian Cup champion WMY is not selected to compete in the WTTC? She's also ranked #2.

CNT has picked:

1. Sun Yingsha
2. Kuai Man
3. Wang Yidi
4. Chen Xingtong
5. Shi Xunyao

Unsure why they picked Shi Xunyao who just lost to Ito 0-3 in Asian cup (10 points in total). WMY is ranked at least #3 in the CNT I would say.

Chinese fan said it's due to politics. What do you think?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

The recent Asian Cup champion WMY is not selected to compete in the WTTC? She's also ranked #2.

CNT has picked:

1. Sun Yingsha
2. Kuai Man
3. Wang Yidi
4. Chen Xingtong
5. Shi Xunyao

Unsure why they picked Shi Xunyao who just lost to Ito 0-3 in Asian cup (10 points in total). WMY is ranked at least #3 in the CNT I would say.

Chinese fan said it's due to politics. What do you think?

not surprised
merit selection does not exist within CNT, as what I tried to explain to shine and some other people in recent months

 

[SFF_lib]

not surprised
merit selection does not exist within CNT, as what I tried to explain to shine and some other people in recent months

That sucks. . . Imagine Chen Meng and Wang Manyu play for South Korea 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

That sucks. . . Imagine Chen Meng and Wang Manyu play for South Korea 🤣🤣🤣

thats just life
even if you beat the core players, it doesn't mean you have even a slim chance of making the core players
or even if you are a core player, you could get moved out

 

[dingyibvs]

That's not the final roster, it won't be set until 3/17. I'd be extremely surprised if WMY isn't on the final roster.

 

[SFF_lib]

That's not the final roster, it won't be set until 3/17. I'd be extremely surprised if WMY isn't on the final roster.

Thanks for clarifying!!

 

[zeio]

SXY: I'm just a placeholder, thanks to ETTU and JTTA.

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/2025_WTTC_Qualification_Pathway_20240814.pdf

Replacement of Singles and Doubles by MA:
• Singles: according to the Proposition by ETTU* (approved by the 2020 BoD and
amended by the 2021 BoD following a proposition by JTTA), MAs have the authority
to nominate the players to the WTTC Finals, therefore replacement of the players is
allowed until the given deadline published in the Event Prospectus. If an MA
withdraws a participant without replacing him/her (at the same time as the
cancellation takes place), the quota will be reallocated to the Continental quota or
the World Ranking quota as appropriate at the time the cancellation takes place.

...

*Proposition by ETTU in 2020 and amended by JTTA in 2021
(Approved by the 2020 BoD and amended by the 2021 BoD following a proposition by JTTA)
Players/pairs qualifying for the Finals are not individually qualified but gain places for their
Association which has the right to nominate according to the qualified number of places for the
Finals.
If the Association is not able to comply, the vacant place will go to the highest ranked
player/pair not yet qualified from another Association.

 

[zeio]

not surprised
merit selection does not exist within CNT, as what I tried to explain to shine and some other people in recent months

Laughable. By that logic, ETTU and JTTA are the very ones that do not embrace meritocracy as they are the ones that came up with the proposition and amendment.

Where is your scrutiny for SBTF and OETTV?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/run-in-between-moregard-and-sbtf.36653/
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/run-in-between-polcanova-and-oettv.36675/

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Laughable. By that logic, ETTU and JTTA are the very ones that do not embrace meritocracy as they are the ones that came up with the proposition and amendment.

Where is your scrutiny for SBTF and OETTV?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/run-in-between-moregard-and-sbtf.36653/
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/run-in-between-polcanova-and-oettv.36675/

i have friends within cnt (actual players)
until you are talking to real life people and not just sitting in front of the computer to gather what little knowledge you have, then maybe we can have some civil conversation about actually what is going on.
until then, there is no reason for me to even discuss with you, because you only know as much as what is on the internet and will never take in what I say.

it is tiring for pros to talk to ob and this is really no different.
i rather spend my energy and helping these cnt players take on foreign leagues.
dealing with real people is more appreciative than dealing with internet trolls.

 

[zeio]

Dodging the tough question behind your unverifiable "networking" as always. Couldn't care less.

Once again, where is your scrutiny for SBTF and OETTV? About time for someone who accuses others of pushing an agenda.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Dodging the tough question behind your unverifiable "networking" as always. Couldn't care less.

Once again, where is your scrutiny for SBTF and OETTV? About time for someone who accuses others of pushing an agenda.

so far I am only servicing Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Taiwanese national player.
I have friends within few European federations, and I can tell you all federation are terrible.
I have said this before and I can say it again, all federation is terrible.
Because you are really lopsided and will refuse any truth, because it is from me...
hence you are a mere internet troll and can't become any better.

so while doing that, another batch of womens has "retired" from the CNT last month, and I am helping one of them for league.
she has many wins against the core players.
so again, do I really need to show off my "networking"?

Isn't like 23 players registered in Europe already proof of my "networking"?
but even with solid proof, you "couldn't care less" still, so you are arguing for the sake of it, because it hurts your pride and that your favorite organization is "bad talked on", so you are a troll, a big arrogant OB one, period.

 

[zeio]

The following is an example where Tony, with all the networking at his disposal, forwarded/spread the fake news.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/china-smash-2024-beijing-9-26-10-6.33455/post-482171
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/china-smash-2024-beijing-9-26-10-6.33455/post-482329
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/china-smash-2024-beijing-9-26-10-6.33455/post-482366

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

The following is an example where Tony, with all the networking at his disposal, forwarded/spread the fake news.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/china-smash-2024-beijing-9-26-10-6.33455/post-482171
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/china-smash-2024-beijing-9-26-10-6.33455/post-482329
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/china-smash-2024-beijing-9-26-10-6.33455/post-482366

yes ob,
what ever you say,

 

[Shine]

not surprised
merit selection does not exist within CNT, as what I tried to explain to shine and some other people in recent months

You hopped on a sensational post with no proof to boost your usual talking points. Don't you get tired of living like this?

 

[Shine]

so far I am only servicing Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Taiwanese national player.
I have friends within few European federations, and I can tell you all federation are terrible.
I have said this before and I can say it again, all federation is terrible.
Because you are really lopsided and will refuse any truth, because it is from me...
hence you are a mere internet troll and can't become any better.

so while doing that, another batch of womens has "retired" from the CNT last month, and I am helping one of them for league.
she has many wins against the core players.
so again, do I really need to show off my "networking"?

Isn't like 23 players registered in Europe already proof of my "networking"?
but even with solid proof, you "couldn't care less" still, so you are arguing for the sake of it, because it hurts your pride and that your favorite organization is "bad talked on", so you are a troll, a big arrogant OB one, period.

Beating 2 of the "newer" core players, but losing way too many times doesn't count for much.
It's no surprise that there's an exodus, there's always an exodus when players don't get what they want.

 

[Shine]

The recent Asian Cup champion WMY is not selected to compete in the WTTC? She's also ranked #2.

CNT has picked:

1. Sun Yingsha
2. Kuai Man
3. Wang Yidi
4. Chen Xingtong
5. Shi Xunyao

Unsure why they picked Shi Xunyao who just lost to Ito 0-3 in Asian cup (10 points in total). WMY is ranked at least #3 in the CNT I would say.

Chinese fan said it's due to politics. What do you think?

The CNT has traditionally had a selection event( Marvelous 12) + coaches discretion for their WTTC lineup.
Firstly, two players are selected via a tournament, and 3 are selected based on performances in the majors, and one more at the coaches' decision.
Where is the male equivalent of this lineup?
Was this posted on the CTTA Weibo?
I think it's important not to share what's tantamount to misinformation, not just because of the confrontation that arises from it, but the prejudice it cements in naysayers minds.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

it is tiring for pros to talk to ob and this is really no different.
i rather spend my energy and helping these cnt players take on foreign leagues.
dealing with real people is more appreciative than dealing with internet trolls.

Is there a post or comment anywhere detailing specifically what you do for all these CNT, KNT, JNT players that you frequently mention?

Apart from "servicing" and "helping them find leagues" I haven't really seen any specifics on what it is that your service provides, and I read the "my involvement" thread all the way through, which mentions little specifics of what it is that you actually do and are getting paid for.

I know many pro players on a personal level, a good number of them world class, myself. I've never heard of them using and paying for 3rd party agents especially from outside of their country. Mainly, because top players and coaches are all connected and finding leagues is not difficult if you are a certain level of player and the TT world is so small that there isn't really much digging to be done. For lower level players I understand it,

So I'm really curious what the extent of your agent service is. Do you have a webpage or information you can provide if I want to connect you with pro players that I know who are looking for leagues?

 

[zeio]

The CNT has traditionally had a selection event( Marvelous 12) + coaches discretion for their WTTC lineup.
Firstly, two players are selected via a tournament, and 3 are selected based on performances in the majors, and one more at the coaches' decision.
Where is the male equivalent of this lineup?
Was this posted on the CTTA Weibo?
I think it's important not to share what's tantamount to misinformation, not just because of the confrontation that arises from it, but the prejudice it cements in naysayers minds.

That's the Continental Quotas of the Individual WTTC Qualification Structure that started with WTTC 2021. See links below. I was waiting for the entry deadline on 3/17 to start the WTTC 2025 thread but this thread prompted me to act early...

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/2025_WTTC_Finals_MS-2.pdf
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/ittf-wttc-finals-doha-2025-5-17-25.36703/post-511152

 

[dingyibvs]

That's the Continental Quotas of the Individual WTTC Qualification Structure that started with WTTC 2021. See links below. I was waiting for the entry deadline on 3/17 to start the WTTC 2025 thread but this thread prompted me to act early...

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/2025_WTTC_Finals_MS-2.pdf
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/ittf-wttc-finals-doha-2025-5-17-25.36703/post-511152

Right, the list is not through the CNT but through ITTF based on automatic qualifying criteria. WMY isn't listed because she didn't participate in the ATTC last year due to a family emergency. The currently listed players can be replaced by their national federations, and I'm sure WMY will be one of the replacements.

 

[Shine]

Right, the list is not through the CNT but through ITTF based on automatic qualifying criteria. WMY isn't listed because she didn't participate in the ATTC last year due to a family emergency. The currently listed players can be replaced by their national federations, and I'm sure WMY will be one of the replacements.

Ah trust me bro, this can't be right , there are forces against Manyu in the team because the coaches are dumb enough to put largely untested and untrusted Kuai & Xunyao in the WTTC because of politics of course, and I mean who else beats Hayata without breaking much of a sweat if not Xunyao and WYD, silly foreign CCP spokesmen.
And I know this as a matter of fact from arrant gossip tabloi.. ehem from my mole in the team akshually. He serves as LGL right hand man and he's been wanting out forever.