Curious case of Joola ZGR's to ZGX's

[TensorBackhand]

I'd like to discuss my experience with 4 Joola hybrid rubbers: Dynaryz ZGR, Dynaryz ZGX, Rhyzen ZGR (now Tronix), and Rhyzen ZGX.

Dynaryz ZGR - I suppose this is meant to be Joola's premium flagship hybrid rubber. Overall it is good and does everything I want. It is slightly tacky, very hard, and has good speed with strong power. I like the purple sponge. I feel its a bit harder to engage than Stiga Dragon Grip. DG feels faster and easier to activate. I feel DG is easy to use on both FH and BH, but Dynaryz ZGR really is just for FH.

Dynaryz ZGX - Joola's premium 53d hybrid rubber. It is good all-around with some speed, grip, spin. I think it is similar to K3. It feels slower than standard tensors, but its fun to input more of your own power with it. Also I find that there is little reaction from booster. I boosted it, but it really didn't add much rebound.

Rhyzen ZGR - Here's the really magic. Rhyzen ZGR has one of the most unique responses to booster of any rubber I have seen. The topsheet of Rhyzen ZGR seems similar to Dynaryz, its a bit tacky and feels high quality. But it has a tremendous reaction to booster. The catapult becomes very pronounced. It is easy to use on FH or BH and really produces crazy power. Also, the throw angle becomes higher than any other rubber I have seen. My shots land really deep on the table with this. I love this feature because I sometimes feel my bh shot has a tendency to fall into the net. To me, this is really the standout rubber from Joola. I'm surprised that Joola doesn't market this feature for one, but also I'm surprised that other brands don't use the same sponge. If I was Nittaku, I would say to ESN "give me a rubber with the same balance sponge" and I would market it as a booster monster. As far as I know, this rubber is totally unique among ESN brands.

Rhyzen ZGX - I find this rubber is harder and denser than Dynaryz, but otherwise performs similar to the Rhyzen ZGR. It is also very hard, but with good rebound and spin. Freshly boosted Rhyzen ZGR is magic, but the Rhyzen ZGX is 99% the same.

 

[SlowPower]

Rhyzen ZGR and ZGX are supposed to be the same. At least they use the same hardness in contrast to dynaryz where the zgx is softer.

I must admit I only played the zgx and still playing it. It's hard to find a combo with blade and bh rubber cause it adds 10g of weight to the setup...

 

[TensorBackhand]

@Matt Hetherington

Hi Matt, @Cadoia was asking me if Rhyzen ZGR and Tronix ZGR are identical. Can you clarify the situation of these 2 rubbers?

 

[vossi39]

We had a debate about Rhyzen ZGR, ZGX and Tronix ZGR with Mat.
Too me they are identical. Rhyzen ZGR is discontinued and Tronix ZGR is the successor. This leaves us with the question, if Tronix ZGR vs. Rhyzen ZGX is worth the price difference. I would go for the Rhyzen, if I would play again with the Joolas, but have for next season switched to DHS.
Maybe I need to return to Joola, if the Hurricanes wear off to quickly.

 

[Matt Hetherington]

Tronix ZGR is a rebrand of Rhyzen ZGR yes, the Rhyzen series is typically a third tier rubber series for developing players and they felt that Rhyzen ZGR was a rubber that didn't belong in that series so it was elevated up. It seems a few more JOOLA players have begun to favour Tronix ZGR on the forehand recently.

 

[KM1976]

Tronix ZGR is a rebrand of Rhyzen ZGR yes, the Rhyzen series is typically a third tier rubber series for developing players and they felt that Rhyzen ZGR was a rubber that didn't belong in that series so it was elevated up. It seems a few more JOOLA players have begun to favour Tronix ZGR on the forehand recently.

Hi Matt, hope you are well. Please can you let me know which Joola rubbers in the current line up will be closest to Rhyzm-P and Golden Tango.
Many thanks for your kind help and valuable time.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Tronix ZGR is a rebrand of Rhyzen ZGR yes, the Rhyzen series is typically a third tier rubber series for developing players and they felt that Rhyzen ZGR was a rubber that didn't belong in that series so it was elevated up. It seems a few more JOOLA players have begun to favour Tronix ZGR on the forehand recently.

Did the Joola players explain why they switched to Tronix Zgr?

Did they mention the response to booster?

 

[Matt Hetherington]

Did the Joola players explain why they switched to Tronix Zgr?

Did they mention the response to booster?

I'm not sure I haven't asked them, the players in Europe are managed by JOOLA Germany so they are the main point of contact. Honestly I think for pro players the harder sponge does make more sense with that type of topsheet especially with the plastic ball.

 

[Matt Hetherington]

Hi Matt, hope you are well. Please can you let me know which Joola rubbers in the current line up will be closest to Rhyzm-P and Golden Tango.
Many thanks for your kind help and valuable time.

Honestly there isn't really an alternative to Golden Tango. I'm personally interested in re-launching the golden tango style of rubber which is a bit tackier on the topsheet. I used that rubber for quite a while. The Tronix ZGR is probably the *closest* alternative, but it's definitely not the same style as Golden Tango.

As for Rhyzm-P I would say Tronix ACC is probably the closest to that one.

 

[KM1976]

Honestly there isn't really an alternative to Golden Tango. I'm personally interested in re-launching the golden tango style of rubber which is a bit tackier on the topsheet. I used that rubber for quite a while. The Tronix ZGR is probably the *closest* alternative, but it's definitely not the same style as Golden Tango.

As for Rhyzm-P I would say Tronix ACC is probably the closest to that one.

Thank you Matt. Really appreciate your inputs.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I was curious how Dynaryz ZGR and ZGX react to booster, so I tried boosting them. They had basically no reaction to booster. That's ok, they are still quite good.

Actually, Rhyzen ZGX is very interesting rubber. For whatever reason, its quite a bit cheaper than others. It's supposedly part of a lower performance line, but I find that in many ways it is the best rubber. It has a harder, denser sponge, but it is still very bouncy and spinny. Even without booster, the rebound is just as high as Dynaryz ZGR or Dynaryz ZGX.

 

[Egon]

I have great respect for the Joola company, but these horrible rubber names with three consonants at the end just break my brain. Why can't they continue the old tradition of dancing rubber names?

 

[TensorBackhand]

@Matt Hetherington

Matt, I have a question:
Based on the specs, Rhyzen ZGR and Rhyzen ZGX look extremely similar. But in reality, they play so differently unboosted. ZGR is very hard and dead, very low bounce.

ZGX is very bouncy like Dynaryz ZGR/ZGX.

Why would this be? Unboosted, ZGX is far superior of a rubber. It's almost as if ZGX is factory boosted while ZGR is unboosted.

 

[hallohallowhatuwant]

Dynaryz ZGX - Joola's premium 53d hybrid rubber. It is good all-around with some speed, grip, spin. I think it is similar to K3. It feels slower than standard tensors, but its fun to input more of your own power with it. Also I find that there is little reaction from booster. I boosted it, but it really didn't add much rebound.

Is the dynaryz zgx anything like the zgr or are they very different?

 

[TensorBackhand]

Is the dynaryz zgx anything like the zgr or are they very different?

Similar but softer. Zgx is nice for bh, zgr is nice for both sides actually

 

[hallohallowhatuwant]

Rhyzen ZGX - I find this rubber is harder and denser than Dynaryz, but otherwise performs similar to the Rhyzen ZGR. It is also very hard, but with good rebound and spin. I feel it doesn't quite reach the same heights as Rhyzen ZGR boosted, but its reasonably close.

Could you use this on BH without the booster?

 

[TensorBackhand]

Could you use this on BH without the booster?

Absolutely! It is hard, very hard. But apart from that, it has excellent rebound, excellent spin.

I have a setup with Victas Triple Double on fh paired with Rhyzen ZGX on BH. I love Rhyzen ZGX.

 

[hallohallowhatuwant]

Thank you

 

[hallohallowhatuwant]

@TensorBackhand. Sorry if you already have posted this but would dynaryz zgx unboosted have enough easy access power to be used as BH for a tensor replacemnt（preferably it should be better than rozena on mid and low effort shots in particular. ）？ Also is dynaryz zgx durable enough as on revspin it is said that it drops after a month of playing？

 

[TensorBackhand]

@TensorBackhand. Sorry if you already have posted this but would dynaryz zgx unboosted have enough easy access power to be used as BH for a tensor replacemnt（preferably it should be better than rozena on mid and low effort shots in particular. ）？ Also is dynaryz zgx durable enough as on revspin it is said that it drops after a month of playing？

Definitely it has enough easy power. It's pretty much a tensor with more grip.

I can't say for certain about durability...it just seems like a normal durable ESN rubber. Not more or less durable than other ESN rubbers. I have so many rubbers so I never really push any one rubber so hard.