Dignics 09c vs DHS Huriccane 3 NEO

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Hello. I'm playing with Dignics 09c half a year. Everything seems to be fine, but I still want to try DHS Hurricane 3 NEO. I watched a few reviews on YouTube (comparisons), looked for information in forms, but it's quite contradictory.. Some say that the transition from Bignics 09c to Hurricane 3 Neo was very easy and smooth, and the rubber itself left a better impression, while others say that they are completely different rubbers and the Dignics 09c is significantly better (or vice versa).

How many of you have tried both of these rubber's? What are your impressions? Which one did you end up playing with? What main differences did you notice?

Please share your thoughts on whether it's worth spending a significant amount of money and trying something new.
 
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D09c is hard sponge and sticky but has modest to significant catapult in a way H3 doesn't. This may or may not suit your style depending on what what you are used to in a rubber - after all, it was designed to accommodate T05 users who wanted more control and spin at the expense of pure speed (that they would largely have to generate themselves, but not quite the same as with H3).

With H3, you have more ultimate control because the sponge requires more to get a response. In fact, you can drive the ball so hard with some versions of H3 that the ball skids/slides, but D09c will still tend to arc such shits, though it can have frightening drives as well.

People who play with a rubber for a long time become specialists at using it and in that regard, an advanced H3 user might not like D09c and vice versa. All in all, if you need a rubber to do some traditional European looping but with more stickiness, use D09c, which requires effort but not H3 levels. If you like the Chinese loop drive spin in your game with maximum control and physical effort, use H3.
 
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I ended up with H3 Neo on FH and D09c on BH, if you are a BH oriented I suggest that combo. H3 is slower so putting it on FH helps you to control/unleash power according to the power input. On the other hand D09c does not require as much effort, so putting it on BH helps you to open backspin/counter loop easier.
I play FH on Dignics 09c. BH - long pips. But sometimes I seem to lose control.. This makes me wonder if I should try something else and throw out the idea of H3
 
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D09c is hard sponge and sticky but has modest to significant catapult in a way H3 doesn't. This may or may not suit your style depending on what what you are used to in a rubber - after all, it was designed to accommodate T05 users who wanted more control and spin at the expense of pure speed (that they would largely have to generate themselves, but not quite the same as with H3).

With H3, you have more ultimate control because the sponge requires more to get a response. In fact, you can drive the ball so hard with some versions of H3 that the ball skids/slides, but D09c will still tend to arc such shits, though it can have frightening drives as well.

People who play with a rubber for a long time become specialists at using it and in that regard, an advanced H3 user might not like D09c and vice versa. All in all, if you need a rubber to do some traditional European looping but with more stickiness, use D09c, which requires effort but not H3 levels. If you like the Chinese loop drive spin in your game with maximum control and physical effort, use H3.
I started with tenzor type European rubbers, but I didn't like them..there was too much speed and not enough control. Then I tried Glayzer..it seemed "dead" to me..then I put on Dignics and have been playing for half a year. I'm just not sure if it's the right option for me..my priority is spin and control, and speed, I think, comes with time and the right technique.
 
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I started with tenzor type European rubbers, but I didn't like them..there was too much speed and not enough control. Then I tried Glayzer..it seemed "dead" to me..then I put on Dignics and have been playing for half a year. I'm just not sure if it's the right option for me..my priority is spin and control, and speed, I think, comes with time and the right technique.
The thing about rubbers is that once they perform within a certain range, it is about tradeoffs to your game, and ultimately, you can't know until you try for an extended period. I have tried in the past 1 year H3 and TH3 unboosted, D05, D80, and to a lesser degree, Rakza Z EH, Rakza Z and Golden Tango, and to a much lesser degree D09c and J&H 55. They are all good rubbers. I could play with any of them. Even some of the ones I stopped using, I might play better with them, than what I am currently using. But I got to what I am using partly because my coach didn't like my forehand speed with sticky rubbers and he felt that 09c didn't do well. But I suspect if I improve aspects of my technique, he might change his mind a little.

Dignics, not just D09c, because it is harder and less responsive than Tenergy, tends do well with players who don't like the early catapult of Tenergy and want more dwell and control. Glayzer has a bit less tension and boosting than Dignics so any advanced player will find it a bit slow and less spin reactive than Dignics, even if adequate.

You can try H3, but there is no perfect option out there unless you know exactly how you want to play and how to evolve and know what suits it best and there truly is no answer. For example, I thought it would make no sense to have a rubber like Dignics 05 on the forehand because 09c was where the pros should be, but then Harimoto and Jha seem to know something I don't. Just find some time to test H3 and if you don't like it, there is no shame in going back to where you came from. But these are all subtleties.
 
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I started with tenzor type European rubbers, but I didn't like them..there was too much speed and not enough control. Then I tried Glayzer..it seemed "dead" to me..then I put on Dignics and have been playing for half a year. I'm just not sure if it's the right option for me..my priority is spin and control, and speed, I think, comes with time and the right technique.
i would suggest you work on your technique
H3 is not easy to maximize its strength
it requires a high level skill
a lot of people say its control is very good - control on what? against which opponent?

your setup is good enough already - if you switch now (and i think 99% after reading a bunch of H3 topics here) you will switch because why not - you’ll realize it is just a matter of technique adjustment and not the equipment

have fun and just discard what i said
 
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I started with tenzor type European rubbers, but I didn't like them..there was too much speed and not enough control. Then I tried Glayzer..it seemed "dead" to me..then I put on Dignics and have been playing for half a year. I'm just not sure if it's the right option for me..my priority is spin and control, and speed, I think, comes with time and the right technique.
Try H3, but expect to hit really hard for true speed. It is the best rubber for brushed loops, not so good for full contact… Great control in the slow game and open ups and flicks are an easy. The only thing is you break your shoulder from position 3 😇…

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i would suggest you work on your technique
H3 is not easy to maximize its strength
it requires a high level skill
a lot of people say its control is very good - control on what? against which opponent?

your setup is good enough already - if you switch now (and i think 99% after reading a bunch of H3 topics here) you will switch because why not - you’ll realize it is just a matter of technique adjustment and not the equipment

have fun and just discard what i said
Very correct answer. I thought about it myself. I have two identical blades, the only difference is the BH long pips and with both of them, I seem to play identically. With which I play longer - that rubber looks better.
 
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I’ve been working a lot on my technique lately and what I’ve found is that as one’s technique improves the difference between equipment lessens. For example, a lot of amateurs loop with a rather concave motion, trying to wrap the racket around the ball. If you do that you’d probably feel a gigantic difference between the two rubbers and make major adjustments to your stroke. H3 is a lot harder to hit into, you’d need to modify your motion significantly to either go forward much more to hit into it or, as many others prefer, stop trying to hit into it and just use a brushing stroke.
 
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H3 and d09c are not close. They are only considered similar by people who have not used much rubbers.

There is a spectrum of absolute offensive rubbers that range from bouncy and grippy to dead and tacky.

In the far sides you have brcye high speed and tg2

D9oc is kind of in the middle but towards European rubbers. Mild tack quite hard but with good catapult effect.

A hybrid that is close to h3 is Rakza Z extra hard. D09C is more like dynarz zgr or tibhar k3.

But at the end of the day they all take minimal adjustments for us hobby players
 
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I have experience with both on the backhand side.
1) H3 neo 37° = very hard, low arc and controlled touch, with little catapult on soft touches. When using the appropriate technique, long and sweeping drives, it applies a higher level of spin on the ball, however it demands commitment and physical strength.
2) Dig 09c = hard, high arc and controlled touch, with a slight catapult on soft touches. Compact shots generate energy and speed for high-quality balls. Excellent for brushed drives and also with beaten shots.

My preference is for the 09c, except for the price.
 
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