Dignics 80 vs Hurricane 3 Neo Provincial

So I am an intermediate level player who trains about 2 hours per week or so and I am a two wing looper. I currently play with Hurricane 3 Neo Provincial Blue Sponge 40 boosted 2 layer Haifu Seamoon Commercial for my forehand and H3NP Orange Sponge 37 boosted 1 layer HSC on my backhand. My blade is the Viscaria Super ALC

I really enjoy player H3 on forehand but find that on the backhand, while safe, feels quite slow even when boosted. My BH topspin always lands on the table but for blocking it’s really slow. However, my serve receive and short game is my weak point which is why I love H3 for BH.

Recently I came across Dignics 80, and based on the reviews, seem to be a balance of speed spin and control. What are you opinions on this rubber vs H3? Is it a very big change? Will I lose too much in my short game and serve receive in exchange for better BH topspin and Block? Cost is not an issue for me.

(Could also consider Dignics 05 but heard it’s a lot more spin sensitive and worse in short game than D80)
 
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You can try boosting your BH a bit more. I'm switching from D09c to H3 37 on the BH side, boosted x4 layers. The regular Seamoon isn't that strong, so I think 3-4 layers is more appropriate. The D09c can't match the H3 in spin, and you can always generate speed by hitting harder (all equipment top out at similar speed).
 
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find that on the backhand, while safe, feels quite slow even when boosted. My BH topspin always lands on the table but for blocking it’s really slow. However, my serve receive and short game is my weak point which is why I love H3 for BH.
This may well contain the answer. It is not your boosted H3 that is not doing the BH job, it could be your strength and your technique that lacks.
I deliberately use un-boosted H3 commercial on my BH to avoid any trampoline effect but I was never told that my BH is slow.
 
This may well contain the answer. It is not your boosted H3 that is not doing the BH job, it could be your strength and your technique that lacks.
I deliberately use un-boosted H3 commercial on my BH to avoid any trampoline effect but I was never told that my BH is slow.
My backhand is weaker than my forehand but I do miss a bit of catapult effect sometimes that I like on forehand as I used to play tensor rubbers and D05 on backhand. Maybe if I use H3 longer to improve my technique and switch back to D80 could be a good idea?
 
You can try boosting your BH a bit more. I'm switching from D09c to H3 37 on the BH side, boosted x4 layers. The regular Seamoon isn't that strong, so I think 3-4 layers is more appropriate. The D09c can't match the H3 in spin, and you can always generate speed by hitting harder (all equipment top out at similar speed).
I’ve heard that boosting a 37 sponge too much would make it too soft mushy and unplayable…but i’ll look into this
 
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My backhand is weaker than my forehand but I do miss a bit of catapult effect sometimes that I like on forehand as I used to play tensor rubbers and D05 on backhand. Maybe if I use H3 longer to improve my technique and switch back to D80 could be a good idea?
Which rubber from BTY is similar in softness when u compare it to H3 37 boosted ? just curios.
 
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My backhand is weaker than my forehand but I do miss a bit of catapult effect sometimes
Of course I am not a coach but I think you put the finger right on the spot. Playing with the tensor rubbers might have made you rely on the catapult effect and now your muscle memories are still expecting this crutch.
 
Rozena ????????????????????
I’ve had rozena before, found it way too soft and not spin enough, I actuallly find D05 that I had before similar in hardness to H3 37, although speed difference is way higher on D05 which is why I want to try D80, the less spin sensitive and easier to use D05
 
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I’ve had rozena before, found it way too soft and not spin enough, I actuallly find D05 that I had before similar in hardness to H3 37, although speed difference is way higher on D05 which is why I want to try D80, the less spin sensitive and easier to use D05
Then why not try 09c instead ? I find it very good on BH and after trying D80 I switched back to 09c.
 
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Dignics 80 is quite different from Hurricane 3. You'll have to get used to a new throw angle, new speed, more spin sensitivity, etc. I tried my friend's blade which had D05 FH and D80 BH, and I could not distinguish the rubbers from each other. They felt very similar -- if anything, the D80 was faster.

Dignics 09c might be a good alternative for you, but the throw angle is VERY high. Personally I cannot play with D09c because the throw angle is too severe for me. The hardness and tackiness is similar to Chinese rubber, but the throw angle is very different.

Have you considered Tenergy 05 Hard? Or Andro Rasanter C48 / C53? These will have a bit more speed than Hurricane 3, without having to do too much adjustment of angle, spin, etc. I've tried both of them and they feel pretty controlled to me, and they're pretty good in the short game. At the same time, you can hit the ball powerfully if you need to. Both of these rubbers feel similar to Chinese rubbers, I think.

There might also be another issue here, which is that you just need to get stronger. Lift some weights -- it helps a lot.
 
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Dignics 80 is quite different from Hurricane 3. You'll have to get used to a new throw angle, new speed, more spin sensitivity, etc. I tried my friend's blade which had D05 FH and D80 BH, and I could not distinguish the rubbers from each other. They felt very similar -- if anything, the D80 was faster.

Dignics 09c might be a good alternative for you, but the throw angle is VERY high. Personally I cannot play with D09c because the throw angle is too severe for me. The hardness and tackiness is similar to Chinese rubber, but the throw angle is very different.

Have you considered Tenergy 05 Hard? Or Andro Rasanter C48 / C53? These will have a bit more speed than Hurricane 3, without having to do too much adjustment of angle, spin, etc. I've tried both of them and they feel pretty controlled to me, and they're pretty good in the short game. At the same time, you can hit the ball powerfully if you need to. Both of these rubbers feel similar to Chinese rubbers, I think.

There might also be another issue here, which is that you just need to get stronger. Lift some weights -- it helps a lot.
Yeah I’m doing some weight training as well to help me, but yeah I think right now I’m started to get swayed over to the Dignics 09C
 
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nothing is more weird than a H3’s angle, esp on BH
It's all a matter of perspective. I'm a penholder and I like H3's low angle because it lets me take the ball really low (almost off the floor) and still reliably put it on the table. With a higher throw angle, it's much less consistent to take ball from below the table. I think the higher throw angle also makes it more difficult to loop against backspin.

I actually switched from Hurricane to Skyline, because Skyline has an even lower throw angle. But it does mean that I have to be careful when flicking close to the table. It requires a different technique, for sure.
 
Dignics 80 is quite different from Hurricane 3. You'll have to get used to a new throw angle, new speed, more spin sensitivity, etc. I tried my friend's blade which had D05 FH and D80 BH, and I could not distinguish the rubbers from each other. They felt very similar -- if anything, the D80 was faster.

Dignics 09c might be a good alternative for you, but the throw angle is VERY high. Personally I cannot play with D09c because the throw angle is too severe for me. The hardness and tackiness is similar to Chinese rubber, but the throw angle is very different.

Have you considered Tenergy 05 Hard? Or Andro Rasanter C48 / C53? These will have a bit more speed than Hurricane 3, without having to do too much adjustment of angle, spin, etc. I've tried both of them and they feel pretty controlled to me, and they're pretty good in the short game. At the same time, you can hit the ball powerfully if you need to. Both of these rubbers feel similar to Chinese rubbers, I think.

There might also be another issue here, which is that you just need to get stronger. Lift some weights -- it helps a lot.
Reviving this thread because i have been playing with the 09C on my Bh of prov W968 and it’s kind of like you said, the throw angle does make me feel uncomfortable. But my BH is now very strong with 09C and it’s been noted by my club mates as much stronger than before. But even still after nearly 3 months of using the 09C i can’t really adjust to the throw angle during matches. Maybe I should try going back to H3N on my BH but with 2 layers boost since my BH is stronger now.
 
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