Does it matter which glue you use for the performance of the rubber?

[sky500]

Hi,

there are several glue options to glue a racket. I have currently the waterbased glue from DHS and organic glue from Loki, both purchased on Aliexpress. Also a different glue from a local sport outlet.

I'm wondering if it matters what glue to use and does it matter for the performance of the rubber?

 

[zeio]

At the onset of water-based glue, yes. Butterfly is crap. Nittaku, Haifu and then Dianchi, DHS, Donic etc. are all better.

 

[merlin el mago]

Yes all matter, not only the brand, also the layers and the viscosity of the WBG

 

[sky500]

Ok, so what's the difference between organic glue and a waterbased glue like from DHS?

I have used the waterbased glue from DHS but it's quite expensive here, so I changed to the organic glue from Loki. The rubber feels somehow dead if I'm a bit away from the table. I don't know if it is because if the rubber and blade or because of the glue.

 

[merlin el mago]

The difference is WBG is allowed and VOC is forbidden for competition.

Also is important the sponge hardness of rubber, for Chinese hard sponge rubbers I use latex glue with high viscosity with minimum 1 layers at blade & two on the sponge.

 

[ander999]

At the onset of water-based glue, yes. Butterfly is crap. Nittaku, Haifu and then Dianchi, DHS, Donic etc. are all better.

I would disagree. I've felt that free chack 1/2 (Non-Pro version) are really good. I've tried others like Gewo hydrotech, Joola X Glue and the performance was just much worse.

 

[sky500]

The difference is WBG is allowed and VOC is forbidden for competition.

Also is important the sponge hardness of rubber, for Chinese hard sponge rubbers I use latex glue with high viscosity with minimum 1 layers at blade & two on the sponge.

I mean these two. I don't think that they are forbidden but the Loki one is also called organic:
Loki Glue

DHS Glue

 

[lodro]

I mean these two. I don't think that they are forbidden but the Loki one is also called organic:
Loki Glue

DHS Glue

LOKI Table Tennis Speed Glue 250ml Sponge Booster Effect Original LOKI Tune Ping Pong Synthetic Glue.​

This might be forbidden.
DHS is waterbased glue and is allowed

 

[ttarc]

I mean these two. I don't think that they are forbidden but the Loki one is also called organic:
Loki Glue

DHS Glue

Do the rubbers dome when using the glue from Loki or does the glue smell like the original 1) speedglue? If not than it's probably safe to use before competitions. If it creates a dome than just air it for one or two days.
If you want some (short lived) speedglue feeling you can get a rubber cement like Fixogum (can't find it online on rossmann.de but they sell it over here) or 1)

1) SVS-VULC https://kis.rema-tiptop.net/catalog...S0=1&GLS1=3&GLS2=1&GLS3=5&PLS0=1&API0=5059142

 

[sky500]

LOKI Table Tennis Speed Glue 250ml Sponge Booster Effect Original LOKI Tune Ping Pong Synthetic Glue.​

This might be forbidden.
DHS is waterbased glue and is allowed

Thanks, I didn't know that, just bought it and used it as an alternative because it was cheaper than the DHS one but maybe I have to keep using the DHS one then.

 

[lodro]

Thanks, I didn't know that, just bought it and used it as an alternative because it was cheaper than the DHS one but maybe I have to keep using the DHS one then.

i will use the loki glue when i need to fit a rubber in a rush. Any tournament I join, there has never anybody done a sniff-test

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

short answer, yes!

 

[_ak]

Do the rubbers dome when using the glue from Loki or does the glue smell like the original 1) speedglue?

Yes, rubbers dome quite significantly and the glue smells.

 

[lodro]

Yes, rubbers dome quite significantly and the glue smells.

There are two different glues available in those coloured bottles with the brush inside.
They are often impossible to keep apart but one of them is just stinky glue but the other one is the stinky glue WITH booster effect.
They stink the same.

Now, this one https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwLWcJV , even though it is advertised as speed glue, it is not boosting - just gluing quickly.

 

[_ak]

Speed glue effect is very short living anyway 🤷

 

[vanjr]

I think the main difference in the glue is how easy it is to remove. Outside of a rare bad glue job I see no difference in performance with approved, aqueous table tennis glues. I have not tried all of them however. I like revolution in medium viscosity personally, but only for how easy it is to remove.

 

[lodro]

I think the main difference in the glue is how easy it is to remove. Outside of a rare bad glue job I see no difference in performance with approved, aqueous table tennis glues. I have not tried all of them however. I like revolution in medium viscosity personally, but only for how easy it is to remove.

I found that unless i had at least 3 solid layers of Revo3 on the rubber it could be a pain to remove and nothing like what the demo video showed. I had better luck with SUEKE glue but now they made it quite expensive and i started to use DHS 15.
I did try other glues as well and could never find a difference in the rubbers performance.

 

[_ak]

I found a layer of VOC glue on the blade + WBG on the rubber work quite well

 

[lodro]

I found a layer of VOC glue on the blade + WBG on the rubber work quite well

work quite well.........doing WHAT ????? 😂

 

[_ak]

work quite well.........doing WHAT ????? 😂

I meant it has sufficient bond strength but still quite easy to pull rubbers off