Easier to loop underspin with BH than FH?

[TensorBackhand]

I personally find that looping with BH is a lot easier than FH. Lately, I often move to my right side so that I can open up with my bh. I find that using FH to loop requires a lot of physical strength, while using BH only requires some wrist. I can do 10 bh loops without feeling tired, but 1 or 2 FH loops is quite draining.

Anybody else find that BH is a lot easier than FH?

 

[Sims]

I personally find that looping with BH is a lot easier than FH. Lately, I often move to my right side so that I can open up with my bh. I find that using FH to loop requires a lot of physical strength, while using BH only requires some wrist. I can do 10 bh loops without feeling tired, but 1 or 2 FH loops is quite draining.

Anybody else find that BH is a lot easier than FH?

I used to but now they're about the same I reckon. The changer for me is proper leg, hip n whip rather than the full on shoulder activated swing I used to do. Since implementing the Whip (which I'm still working hard to improve) it's becoming easier (from a physical/fatigue standpoint) to loop those balls. It spreads the effort across the body rather than just shoulder wrist involvement.
If you're already doing this properly and still find BH easier then I can only suppose we're all different with different strengths and weaknesses...
For me tho it takes more arm involvement for BH loop than FH, maybe I should engage my hips more in BH?
Anyway, I'm interested in other replies

 

[SleepyMaster]

In my mind you should strive to perform both strokes with about equal stability/quality. Because when you perform forehand from backhand side you open up the table and risking a bit - the same thing with backhand from forehand side. Skilful player can take advantage from it.

But as I see from years of training there is always some people that are naturally better at backhand than forehand and other way around. There is also a lot of pretty balanced players in therm of using their backhands/forehand’s. So everyone is different and it’s cool to see how people are managing their differences for winning in a match 🤓

 

[lodro]

the further away fro the table i am the harder the BH loop becomes 😁

 

[NextLevel]

Backhand for me is relatively inflexible and works best against long pushes off short or half long balls. Forehand can capture a wider range of balls once they are long or high.

 

[lightspin]

I guess this depends on the players level and their physical preferences. Hardly anyone plays choppers with their backhand, so I would say in general the forehand loop off underspin is much easier than with the backhand. The backhand seems to have less flexibility and requires more precise timing but if it is easier for you then that is great.

 

[turbozed]

You probably feel it's easier because you're properly directing your bodyweight into the ball better with the BH technique than with your FH technique.

I'm the same way actually. With my FH technique, I push off too early on my FH leg and the force is dissipated before I make contact with the ball. This has plagued me for a long time.

Focus on maintaining foot pressure with the floor during and even through contact and you'll find your bodyweight transfer into the ball and it'll feel a lot easier. Sometimes i can direct my body to do this and it just clicks and feels natural (and then I'll forget how to do it the next time).

There's a new translated Fang Yinchi video about this actually.

 

[turbozed]

Here's the video I was referring to above

 

[lodro]

Sometimes i can direct my body to do this and it just clicks and feels natural

Suffering from Neural Foramina , when my back clicks i wish I could forget about it. 😁

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[Gozo Aruna]

Me FH. BH more comfortable to just push.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Here's the video I was referring to above

Yes, but this is exactly what I mean. the FH side involves waist movement, hip movement, a lot of physical effort.

BH side loop is easier as it uses a lot of wrist movement.

For me, accelerating my wrist is a lot less effort

 

[turbozed]

Yes, but this is exactly what I mean. the FH side involves waist movement, hip movement, a lot of physical effort.

BH side loop is easier as it uses a lot of wrist movement.

For me, accelerating my wrist is a lot less effort

You'd have to post a video of your lower body absolutely doing nothing while your hand effortlessly flicks heavy underspin.

Otherwise I'm more inclined to believe that the leg push for you BH is just happening more naturally for you as it does for me, and you don't have to think about it (and so you don't even realize you're doing it).

 

[Amayzde]

Hard to determine what the issue is here without footage.

It could be alot of things:
1. Your stance is too square to the table (right foot too far foreward). This makes it easier to play backhand rather then forehand to begin with, and generate backhand power as well. But it will be harder to get a proper forehand swing because your body is in the way. And when you do get a proper forehand in you can only play crosscourt.
2. Having a tight wrist and/or arm on the forehand. It sounds like you have a relaxed wrist on the backhand, and this will make the stroke feel effortless. And like you said forehand feels like way more effort is needed. You are most likely tensing up on your forehand, because if you had a relaxed forehand swing it should also feel effortless.
3. Not using your body enough to create upward force. You body should generate the power and your wrist should generate te spin. Your arm is just there to connect these 2 and guide your racket thowards the ball.

 

[Gozo Aruna]

Hard to determine what the issue is here without footage.

It could be alot of things:
1. Your stance is too square to the table (right foot too far foreward). This makes it easier to play backhand rather then forehand to begin with, and generate backhand power as well. But it will be harder to get a proper forehand swing because your body is in the way. And when you do get a proper forehand in you can only play crosscourt.
2. Having a tight wrist and/or arm on the forehand. It sounds like you have a relaxed wrist on the backhand, and this will make the stroke feel effortless. And like you said forehand feels like way more effort is needed. You are most likely tensing up on your forehand, because if you had a relaxed forehand swing it should also feel effortless.
3. Not using your body enough to create upward force. You body should generate the power and your wrist should generate te spin. Your arm is just there to connect these 2 and guide your racket thowards the ball.

4. Not using Tenergy, specifically T05.