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Fan zhendong, Ma Long and Cheng Meng announces Retirement from WTT/ITTF
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the ITTF letters of FZD and CM aren't signed by CTTA
not saying it means anything, but they could of also uploaded that letter with CTTA signatures
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That quote was to answer AutomaticBackhand's question.
OTOH, as stated at the start of the WTT response, it is a clarification to the FZD's and CM's Weibo entries that could mislead the readers, specifically "近日WTT颁布了不参赛就罚款的新规" (WTT recently published a new rule that fines will be imposed for not participating in competitions) for the former and "但近期WTT最新出台的退赛罚款新规定" (but the latest new rules on fines for withdrawal published by WTT) for the latter, which are a misunderstanding/misinterpretation, as the so-called new rules for 2025 are revisions of existing rules that have been in place since WTT started in 2021.
After LYJ and CSY and CTTTA, I'm pretty confident that most WTT players and their respective associations have not gone through, let alone understand, the Handbook, not to mention keeping track of the changes. It's understandable for the players as that piece of crap is unreadable but the associations should've tried their best to get their players on the same page, e.g. JTTA.
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yes, I have already stated that there is no new rules about fines.
hence WTT make that announcement, as I suggested to them.
CTTTA doesn't control the players in Taiwan. The players operate independently, just like most countries.
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Getting your players on the same page doesn't mean controlling them, because the players and their affiliated teams have to get things done through the association. There is clearly a lack of communication among CTTTA and their players, and WTT. U for unprofessional.
For future reference. LYJ's team was scratching their heads as to why he was given a ZPP. In CSY's case, WTT even decided that she was gaming the system.
桌球》札格瑞布挑戰賽退賽被懲處 林昀儒世界排名掉到第8
https://sports.ltn.com.tw/news/breakingnews/4701933
巴黎奧運》WTT不認同補件醫師證明 陳思羽確定無緣女單
https://tw.sports.yahoo.com/news/巴黎奧運-wtt不認同補件醫師證明-陳思羽無緣女單成定局-095942954.html
巴黎奧運》不受資格爭議影響 陳思羽力拚混雙獎牌
https://tsna.com/article/90565
For future reference. LYJ's team was scratching their heads as to why he was given a ZPP. In CSY's case, WTT even decided that she was gaming the system.
桌球》札格瑞布挑戰賽退賽被懲處 林昀儒世界排名掉到第8
https://sports.ltn.com.tw/news/breakingnews/4701933
巴黎奧運》WTT不認同補件醫師證明 陳思羽確定無緣女單
https://tw.sports.yahoo.com/news/巴黎奧運-wtt不認同補件醫師證明-陳思羽無緣女單成定局-095942954.html
巴黎奧運》不受資格爭議影響 陳思羽力拚混雙獎牌
https://tsna.com/article/90565
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More like planned ahead of time. That Retirement Letter must be signed by the association. They wouldn't have let FZD and CM accumulate all those ZPPs otherwise, e.g. WCQ and SYS.
https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/upl...nnis-World-Ranking-Regulations-20241218-1.pdf
p.s.
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5116151610737231
In accordance with the process of the ITTF and the CTTA, a report was submitted this week.
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5116196261467443
Out of respect for the international organizations, the document was signed on Monday, finally making the choice to withdraw from the world rankings.
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I really don't understand why WTT would not want to have Fan Zhendong playing?? Why haven't they found a way to make it work. There must be more going on than we realise?
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Welcome. Is the voice yours? I was wondering what "ETTF" was (1:57). Maybe how a Swede pronounces 'ITTF" (It's not a criticism. It's just makes me curious).
My only suggestion as to how this video can be improved (for me personally) is to add more detail so it's not too general.
For example: when referring to the ITTF "overcrowded calendar" it would be great to have some details of that calendar. Like, how many days in between major tournaments? How many days would a top player need in order to recover? Do the CNT players have to play major tournaments within China in between ITTF tournaments?
Another example: "from his rise to world number one and his unforgettable victories", I would find it more interesting if you mentioned the year he became world number one (and who he dethroned?), and mention a few of those unforgettable victories (maybe I want to watch them).
I realise this requires much much more research, but just giving my feedback on what videos I find the best (pretty much those that give me one or two pieces of factual information).
I found it funny in 3:36 how Tomo misses the ball and looks at his racket (checking for moisture?
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What you posted is not separate from Tony's thread about FZD announcing his retirement. So, your thread has been merged into Tony's thread.
WTT says mandatory events "align with established procedures in other pro sports"
WTT is not "aligning" with pro tennis, which has mandatory events for only the top 30 ranked players. However, once a player has played a certain number of years played/events or has reached 30 years of age, they get exemptions from the mandatory events.
Tennis has figured out it's better for the game to have big name players like Federer and Nadal play a few tourneys a year than zero.
WTT thinks it's better to have zero FZD and CM, and most likely ML. Effing stupid.
What tennis tourney would not give Federer a wild card entry if he wanted to play?
WTT is not "aligning" with pro tennis, which has mandatory events for only the top 30 ranked players. However, once a player has played a certain number of years played/events or has reached 30 years of age, they get exemptions from the mandatory events.
Tennis has figured out it's better for the game to have big name players like Federer and Nadal play a few tourneys a year than zero.
WTT thinks it's better to have zero FZD and CM, and most likely ML. Effing stupid.
What tennis tourney would not give Federer a wild card entry if he wanted to play?
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Welcome. Is the voice yours? I was wondering what "ETTF" was (1:57). Maybe how a Swede pronounces 'ITTF" (It's not a criticism. It's just makes me curious).
My only suggestion as to how this video can be improved (for me personally) is to add more detail so it's not too general.
For example: when referring to the ITTF "overcrowded calendar" it would be great to have some details of that calendar. Like, how many days in between major tournaments? How many days would a top player need in order to recover? Do the CNT players have to play major tournaments within China in between ITTF tournaments?
Another example: "from his rise to world number one and his unforgettable victories", I would find it more interesting if you mentioned the year he became world number one (and who he dethroned?), and mention a few of those unforgettable victories (maybe I want to watch them).
I realise this requires much much more research, but just giving my feedback on what videos I find the best (pretty much those that give me one or two pieces of factual information).
I found it funny in 3:36 how Tomo misses the ball and looks at his racket (checking for moisture?
Thank you so much for the lovely comment - I really appreciate it! Let me break it down bit by bit.
So, it's supposed to be "ITTF," but I struggle to pronounce it quickly. I’m not sure if it’s because I’m Swedish, or if it’s just a "me" problem, haha. 😄 But now that I see it written, it’s kind of funny!
You’re absolutely right about the details. I realize I could’ve gone even deeper in my research, but it can be challenging to dive into some topics fully. I even searched through Chinese sites to confirm certain things, but using Google Translate probably caused some crucial details to get lost between the lines. Accuracy is important to me - I’d much rather take the time to get things right than make something up.
By the way, I have a separate video planned just about Fan Zhendong that will go into all the details - his consecutive wins, rivalries, and so much more. For this video, though, I just wanted to focus on this specific moment in his career. Your feedback really means a lot to me! It helps me see what I can improve on, and honestly, it’s so much fun to receive thoughtful suggestions. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts!
As for 3:36 - he actually got injured at that point. He misread the ball, accidentally hit the table, and cut his hand open (ouch). Watching the video so many times during editing, I probably got too used to the moment and forgot how quick it looks to others. It really does seem like he just misses! 😄
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WTT has shot in its own foot, what I have written here for much longer, there are far too many mandatory tournaments to play with too few financial concessions. Add to that the strange point counts and/or penalties. Many a player sees their family life destroyed by the travelling and they are not even allowed to get sick.
Interests are actually pathetic for major tournaments. With too many playing commitments, people also get tired of coming to watch the same players over and over again, but I think this is a global phenomenon. At a certain point, you get satiated, both as a player and a spectator.
Aruna should become president of the WTT!
Interests are actually pathetic for major tournaments. With too many playing commitments, people also get tired of coming to watch the same players over and over again, but I think this is a global phenomenon. At a certain point, you get satiated, both as a player and a spectator.
Aruna should become president of the WTT!
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Full quote from Simon Gauzy:
"Statement not accepted.
Telling the facts without any changes, that is what you are doing.
We are loosing icons of our sport because of those « rules ».
You can’t ignore the fact that this is not helping the players.
It’s time for a REAL change."
wtt That its ridiculous what you are doing . Your destroying the table tennis that we love . You care more about making money than about players . You are bringing more events so you can make more money . Players don’t even have time to rest because there are more and more events they need to participate and when they don’t they pay ridiculous fines . Everybody is protesting Simon gauzy , fan zhendong , Chen meng , and you thing we won’t care yes we will . It’s time for a real change wtt enough is enough .
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Full quote from Simon Gauzy:
"Statement not accepted.
Telling the facts without any changes, that is what you are doing.
We are loosing icons of our sport because of those « rules ».
You can’t ignore the fact that this is not helping the players.
It’s time for a REAL change."
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If it's not a failure of WTT as an organisation then what is?
I hope they knew about FZD's plan to retire, and they should have figured something out. They should have changed whatever rules needed to keep the olympic champions in.
If they didn't know about his plans and if his retirement came as a surprise then the problem is even worse.
I hope they knew about FZD's plan to retire, and they should have figured something out. They should have changed whatever rules needed to keep the olympic champions in.
If they didn't know about his plans and if his retirement came as a surprise then the problem is even worse.
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plot twist:
The day FZD send his retirement letter to WTT, it just so happen that there is an opening in Taylor Swift's Eras Tour backup singer position....
The day FZD send his retirement letter to WTT, it just so happen that there is an opening in Taylor Swift's Eras Tour backup singer position....
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CTTTA isn't at fault here.
I have been in the circle long enough to know that news agencies are not always 100% on the truth side
never the less, CNT players have the most ZPP by far,
Interesting to see a ZPP players list
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