Fastarc G-1 be a better fit for Ovtcharov ALC blade?

[sumitkpaul]

Three months ago, I bought the Butterfly Dimitrij Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC blade and paired it with Xiom Omega VII Euro rubbers: 2.0 mm on the backhand and max thickness on the forehand, which I purchased from TT11. After a month, my trainers said that the rubber wasn't handling backspin well and most of my shots were going into the net. A few good-level players mentioned that the topsheet of the rubber seemed dead, even though I had hardly played with my bat.

Is there a problem with the rubber, or is it that the Ovtcharov ALC blade doesn't pair well with Xiom rubbers? A few weeks ago, I replaced my backhand rubber with Hexer Duro, but I still don't feel comfortable with it. I chose Hexer Duro because I had played with a friend's blade (Viscaria with D64 on the forehand and Andro Hexer Duro on the backhand) and liked the feel. However, I'm not getting the same feel with the Hexer Duro on my Ovtcharov blade.

Why is that? Would the Rozena or Nittaku Fastarc G-1 be a better fit for my Ovtcharov ALC blade? I prefer to have a less sensitive to incoming spin rubber. I have a corporate tournament in a few weeks.

Thanks.

 

[hclnnkhg]

Three months ago, I bought the Butterfly Dimitrij Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC blade and paired it with Xiom Omega VII Euro rubbers: 2.0 mm on the backhand and max thickness on the forehand, which I purchased from TT11. After a month, my trainers said that the rubber wasn't handling backspin well and most of my shots were going into the net. A few good-level players mentioned that the topsheet of the rubber seemed dead, even though I had hardly played with my bat.

Is there a problem with the rubber, or is it that the Ovtcharov ALC blade doesn't pair well with Xiom rubbers? A few weeks ago, I replaced my backhand rubber with Hexer Duro, but I still don't feel comfortable with it. I chose Hexer Duro because I had played with a friend's blade (Viscaria with D64 on the forehand and Andro Hexer Duro on the backhand) and liked the feel. However, I'm not getting the same feel with the Hexer Duro on my Ovtcharov blade.

Why is that? Would the Rozena or Nittaku Fastarc G-1 be a better fit for my Ovtcharov ALC blade? I prefer to have a less sensitive to incoming spin rubber. I have a corporate tournament in a few weeks.

Thanks.

I have used Omega 7 Euro and Fastarc G1 before. G1 is generally harder and more difficult to use. Rozena may be less sensitive to spin but I have never tried it personally.

 

[jk1980]

Your blade is quite fast for somebody that probably does not have the technique yet to even properly control it.
Omega 7 Euro is quite soft and no speed-monster so if the incoming backspin ball shoots into the net before you can loop it properly, i assume the lack of dwell time of the blade might be a major factor. I wonder why your couch assumes that the rubber is the problem, if the blade is much more unforgiving.

Perhaps you can use a blade appropriate for your level to get the technique down and leave the ovtcharov blade in the locker until you are ready for it.

 

[biaxialerzug]

Would be interesring to know what kind of blade you played before you bought the Ovtcharov ALC. And which rubbers of course

 

[Fedex78]

Three months ago, I bought the Butterfly Dimitrij Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC blade and paired it with Xiom Omega VII Euro rubbers: 2.0 mm on the backhand and max thickness on the forehand, which I purchased from TT11. After a month, my trainers said that the rubber wasn't handling backspin well and most of my shots were going into the net. A few good-level players mentioned that the topsheet of the rubber seemed dead, even though I had hardly played with my bat.

Is there a problem with the rubber, or is it that the Ovtcharov ALC blade doesn't pair well with Xiom rubbers? A few weeks ago, I replaced my backhand rubber with Hexer Duro, but I still don't feel comfortable with it. I chose Hexer Duro because I had played with a friend's blade (Viscaria with D64 on the forehand and Andro Hexer Duro on the backhand) and liked the feel. However, I'm not getting the same feel with the Hexer Duro on my Ovtcharov blade.

Why is that? Would the Rozena or Nittaku Fastarc G-1 be a better fit for my Ovtcharov ALC blade? I prefer to have a less sensitive to incoming spin rubber. I have a corporate tournament in a few weeks.

Thanks.

I've been using your same blade for months, I'm a big fan of omega 7 euro for BH but on ovtcharov alc blade it doesnt work at all, it is better on viscaria. On your blade it's better to use on BH a 47,5° rubber, I had donic Z2 1.9 / 2.1 mm and it is a great match

 

[sumitkpaul]

Would be interesring to know what kind of blade you played before you bought the Ovtcharov ALC. And which rubbers of course

DHS 301
FH: OMEGA 7 PRO
BH: VEGA ASIA

 

[sumitkpaul]

I've been using your same blade for months, I'm a big fan of omega 7 euro for BH but on ovtcharov alc blade it doesnt work at all, it is better on viscaria. On your blade it's better to use on BH a 47,5° rubber, I had donic Z2 1.9 / 2.1 mm and it is a great match

Thank you for your suggestion; it really helped me understand the problem. I have a Donic Bluestorm Z1 Turbo Max. Does it work well for my forehand on the Ovtcharov ALC?

 

[Fedex78]

Thank you for your suggestion; it really helped me understand the problem. I have a Donic Bluestorm Z1 Turbo Max. Does it work well for my forehand on the Ovtcharov ALC?

Z1 turbo max for FH should be a beast, for me too difficult to control but a lot of good players in my club use it

 

[Comodoensis]

I think the blade might be the issue as well. Read somewhere out there, there are 'changes' in butterfly innerforce alc line-up (which I believe might have affected their blade with inner-alc structure, including ovtcharov alc)

Currently (also) using ovtcharov alc, paired with 40 degree provincial blue sponge hurricane 3, and short pips for the backhand side, settling with spinlord waran 1.8mm after many failed attempts to adjust using DMS spinfire which feels too hard on it. A bit of dilemma, though. Spinfire offers the best stability due to high-grip topsheet, but harder to 'engage' with small, compact strokes since it's hard-sponged. While waran's sponge being way softer, it's easy to 'engage' with minimal effort, but having less grip compared to spinfire translates into instability)

It's a love-hate situation also with the forehand side. It feels like the blade-rubber combination doesn't easily 'hold' the ball during low-impact shots. While a well executed strokes are lethal, but it feels not 'tamed' enough for control-oriented drives, topspins, loops

Some coaches gave suggestions to use something softer for this blade to bring up some 'elasticity' for the overall feeling

Between rozena and fastarc g-1, maybe rozena. I don't know. Been trying many bty blades owned by clubmates, somehow, those that are paired with bty rubbers feels like having a better overall feeling (well, any blades works well with any rubbers as long as one gets used to it. But somehow, bty blades, paired with bty rubbers, even from the first time using it, feels like 'okay, this can't, and won't get wrong). And also, rozena is considered more control-oriented rubber. Maybe it'll help to improve shot consistencies

 

[sumitkpaul]

I think the blade might be the issue as well. Read somewhere out there, there are 'changes' in butterfly innerforce alc line-up (which I believe might have affected their blade with inner-alc structure, including ovtcharov alc)

Currently (also) using ovtcharov alc, paired with 40 degree provincial blue sponge hurricane 3, and short pips for the backhand side, settling with spinlord waran 1.8mm after many failed attempts to adjust using DMS spinfire which feels too hard on it. A bit of dilemma, though. Spinfire offers the best stability due to high-grip topsheet, but harder to 'engage' with small, compact strokes since it's hard-sponged. While waran's sponge being way softer, it's easy to 'engage' with minimal effort, but having less grip compared to spinfire translates into instability)

It's a love-hate situation also with the forehand side. It feels like the blade-rubber combination doesn't easily 'hold' the ball during low-impact shots. While a well executed strokes are lethal, but it feels not 'tamed' enough for control-oriented drives, topspins, loops

Some coaches gave suggestions to use something softer for this blade to bring up some 'elasticity' for the overall feeling

Between rozena and fastarc g-1, maybe rozena. I don't know. Been trying many bty blades owned by clubmates, somehow, those that are paired with bty rubbers feels like having a better overall feeling (well, any blades works well with any rubbers as long as one gets used to it. But somehow, bty blades, paired with bty rubbers, even from the first time using it, feels like 'okay, this can't, and won't get wrong). And also, rozena is considered more control-oriented rubber. Maybe it'll help to improve shot consistencies

Yes, you’re right. I’ve read and watched many videos about Ovtcharov’s play and rubber preferences. Many people suggest that the Innerforce ALC, like the Ovtcharov Innerforce, pairs well with all kinds of Butterfly rubbers. Right now, I’m using G1 Max on my forehand and G1 2.0 on my backhand. It’s still playable, but I recently bought a Glayzer 05 to replace the G1 on my forehand side.