Find the reason for the inbetween "ball does not get caught by the rubber" loopfails ending up in the net

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Hi,
i know you guys love to watch people making themselves the clown and showing the amateur footage with fails, so here is my gift to you. I know it feels good if one sees somebody struggling more than oneself does :p

I have reviewed a game that i played in training today and overall i am kind of satisfied with my forehand topspin ratio with 21 Topspins made, 13 went onto the table, 10 points scored directly, 3 went wide, 5 of them caught the net. I lost that set 17:19 (and tbh i have made at least 3 serve mistakes so could have easily won if i was more focussed).

I am only concerned right now with the ones that went into the net and wonder if there is something they have in common. To me it looks like i dont catch the ball properly and even though the racket goes nearly vertically upwards, the ball does not follow that trajectory and drops into the net on these occasions.
I usually take these balls quite late, too late, but that does not seem to be the reason, because it does work more often than not.

Originally i wanted to edit the video so that we see a few successful ones from the positions where it fails most often and then display the failed attempts, but unfortunately i am too stupid to use DaVinci Resolve and it was not that easy to move the clips around, so you have a few working loops sprinkled in with the 5 occasions where it did not work.


Perhaps i am operating at the lower threshold of the rubbers sponge and fail to activate it sometimes, so that the ball does not catch properly. Equipment is Nittaku Acoustic with Loki Arthur China.

One thought is that i dont recover to neutral stance after serve properly. This is fact, but is this the reason ? Should i recover into a position a step farer away from the table to be able to hit the ball in front of me and properly go into the ball?

Opponent does not loop or block at all and is a safe pusher and smasher (with Korbel SK7 as blade and T05 Hard and Dignics 05 i think). Let's not talk about how this setup it totally unwise for him, but at least at times he gets quite good backspin into some pushes with it.
 
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A few observations from someone who is also working on his game.

The ones you missed it looks like you are taking the ball after the highest point, when it is on the way down. And also your swing speed was slower so not having the same impact/lift on the ball.

Low and loaded pushes require the technique you are using, lots of verticality and lift.
Many of those pushes are quite high so you (with correct timing, hitting ball at highest point before it start to drop) don't need the verticality that you are putting on your stroke. You should be able to hit through the ball more and hit the table with more speed/power.
Basically a different technique for different ball.

The ones that landed seem to me like better swing speed and better timing...
 
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serve and take a step back so you are not cramped and leaning back when you loop

the opponents pushes are not high quality, they don't have a lot of spin and are long

more space will give you time to accelerate into the ball instead of hitting while leaning back
 
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serve and take a step back so you are not cramped and leaning back when you loop

the opponents pushes are not high quality, they don't have a lot of spin and are long

more space will give you time to accelerate into the ball instead of hitting while leaning back
thank you, that is a totally valid point and i am often lazy and dont jump back into position after serving. One thing i tried was looping the balls that come to my backhand corner with the backhand.
I think my intuition failed me and made me do the wrong things for these situations.
When i think "jump in and loop the next one with backhand" i jump a little to the middle, but quite a bit back as well. The next ball will come shorter and i will not step in and try to backhand loop reaching the ball with extended limbs which most often fails. I do see now that i should either step a little to the middle bit still close the to table if i want to backhand loop or simply jumps backwards if i want to forehand loop and go into the ball.

Man that will be quite something to remember, but gladly this one training partner is the best "training dummy" (in the best possible sense of the term) to do it with because he wont loop so it is either we push until i loop or he smashes.
 
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With rubbers like these you shouldn't be too lazy ;)
When you're looping, work with your whole body so you bend the knees and really get the power from the legs and get the whole body movement all together, and work hard with that wrist so you excel the power when hitting the ball. Don't forget the footwork as well. That's a big part too :) Keep up the good work and don't get too lazy.
 
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With rubbers like these you shouldn't be too lazy ;)
When you're looping, work with your whole body so you bend the knees and really get the power from the legs and get the whole body movement all together, and work hard with that wrist so you excel the power when hitting the ball. Don't forget the footwork as well. That's a big part too :) Keep up the good work and don't get too lazy.
yeah, thank you. I kind of thought that the Loki Arthur China was more easy to manage on a 5 ply wood which it certainly is, but i still tend to get lazy with my acceleration. Lets not talk about footwork, because it is non existent currently.

Funnily enough when i changed my blade to the W968 with Rxton 9 i had surprisingly good ratio with it, but only because i totally new that i need to go gung ho with the acceleration or the ball will fail to clear the net. I need to become more aggressive and do the same with the LAC, even though it might work giving less than 70% sometimes with it.
 
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