Gewo Codexx Super Select Vs Rasanter R 50/47 - Alternatives?

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Hi Guys,

So I was playing with Rasanter R50 on forehand and R47 on backhand on an innercarbon blade.

This allowed me to dominate powerfully in topspin rally, especially with my forehand where I would just keep increasing the power until I overpowered most of my opponents.

I recently switch to playing with the Gewo CodeXX EF Pro 54 rubbers on forehand and backhand. This rubber is tacky and has increased my spin, but more importantly, my ability to slow down the ball with drop shots, short pushes and chops away from the table. I am winning more games and having a lot of fun with the variety.

However, I do miss the power I had with the rasanter rubbers.

The difference is really the fact that the Gewo rubber has gears - I love being able to control and slow down the ball with these harder rubbers.

Now of course I get there is always a compromise, but I wonder if I can more or less get the best of both worlds with a different rubber? Does anyone have experience with the Rasanter R50 and R47 and find an alternative with similar power but have the possibility to drop the ball short and chop?

I know that some people say that if you hit hard enough with harder rubbers, they should be more powerful, but I am not having this experience with these rubbers. Further, even higher rated players that hit with top technique and high power (much better than me) struggled against my power in the topspin game with the Rasanter rubbers and I often dominate them in those rallies (surprisingly!), but I cannot do this with the Gewo rubber - the ball keeps coming back.

Would love thoughts from people who are experienced and knowledgeable with these rubbers.
 
It sounds like you're still getting used to the Gewo rubbers.

If you're winning more games with the Gewo rubbers it's probably best to stick with those rather than change again.

I think the choice you need to make is between: Keep Gewo rubbers and practice applying more power to shots. Or.
Go back to Rasanter and practice softening your touch to make drop shots etc work.

There are no magic rubbers, sadly. No matter what rubber you choose chances are you'll end up in 1 of 2 situations. A faster rubber you have to learn to control in the short game or a slower rubber you have learn to hit harder to make dangerous.

Hope this helps.
 
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It sounds like you're still getting used to the Gewo rubbers.

If you're winning more games with the Gewo rubbers it's probably best to stick with those rather than change again.

I think the choice you need to make is between: Keep Gewo rubbers and practice applying more power to shots. Or.
Go back to Rasanter and practice softening your touch to make drop shots etc work.

There are no magic rubbers, sadly. No matter what rubber you choose chances are you'll end up in 1 of 2 situations. A faster rubber you have to learn to control in the short game or a slower rubber you have learn to hit harder to make dangerous.

Hope this helps.

I appreciate your message about no magic rubbers - there is always a compromise. I just felt there must be something closer to in between, something that has more gears, more linear but still produces power more easily then the GEWO rubbers. When you look at the rubber range, it's so confusing - there are so many options and no real way to differentiate. Even in the GEWO range, the different brands with different hardness, how can anyone make sense of it all. 🤨
 
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I had a look at GEWO Codexx EL Pro 52 - wonder if that is going to give me the additional power I need? Alternatively, if I stick with non-tacky, I heard that fastarc g1 has more gears to allow for drop shots. But I wonder what it is like for brushing shots, like slow topspins? Anyone have experience comparing these rubbers to the rasanter r50 series and the codexx ef pro 54
 
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I had a look at GEWO Codexx EL Pro 52 - wonder if that is going to give me the additional power I need? Alternatively, if I stick with non-tacky, I heard that fastarc g1 has more gears to allow for drop shots. But I wonder what it is like for brushing shots, like slow topspins? Anyone have experience comparing these rubbers to the rasanter r50 series and the codexx ef pro 54
I would go with this.

These hybrid 52-53 range rubbers plays more like spinner and firmer 50 ESN than the harder 55-57 hybrids.
 
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From what you said about having a more linear rubber with easier access to power I think experimenting with slightly softer sponge could help you.

G1 is super versatile and is a great spin rubber.
I second this, it's an extremely popular rubber for a reason.
 
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If your wallet allows for it, you can consider changing your blade instead.
I am assuming your current inner carbon blade is a product from the older generation.
You can consider some of the new inner carbon blades so that you still retain the inner carbon touch/feeling while having a stronger carbon layer that gives you more speed when you attack.

Some blades I can think of are,
Butterfly: harimoto innerforce series, franziska zlc, dima alc
Andro: synteliac vci / zci
Yasaka: falck carbon
Nittaku: H2
Xiom: tmxi/ tmxi pro
Tibhar: shang Kun ac/ zc, felix hypercarbon, zodiac libra
 
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If your wallet allows for it, you can consider changing your blade instead.
I am assuming your current inner carbon blade is a product from the older generation.
You can consider some of the new inner carbon blades so that you still retain the inner carbon touch/feeling while having a stronger carbon layer that gives you more speed when you attack.

Some blades I can think of are,
Butterfly: harimoto innerforce series, franziska zlc, dima alc
Andro: synteliac vci / zci
Yasaka: falck carbon
Nittaku: H2
Xiom: tmxi/ tmxi pro
Tibhar: shang Kun ac/ zc, felix hypercarbon, zodiac libra

Well I have two blades and am likely to stick to them.

However, it's interesting what you are saying I don't quite understand the difference.

I use Nittaku Accoustic inner carbon - is that older or new generation? I think it has two outer layers of limba like many others - I didn't realise there was a big difference.
 
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Well I have two blades and am likely to stick to them.

However, it's interesting what you are saying I don't quite understand the difference.

I use Nittaku Accoustic inner carbon - is that older or new generation? I think it has two outer layers of limba like many others - I didn't realise there was a big difference.
Oh nittaku acoustic series has very good ball feeling, yeah better to stick with it.

In general, newer blades feel more powerful since they are designed for pro players of the current era.

Then you probably should train towards having more racket head speed to generate power in your shots using coddexx.
 
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Well I have two blades and am likely to stick to them.

However, it's interesting what you are saying I don't quite understand the difference.

I use Nittaku Accoustic inner carbon - is that older or new generation? I think it has two outer layers of limba like many others - I didn't realise there was a big difference.
There isnt… Don’t believe that commercial mumbojumbo. The one thing that is important is that you choose a blade with the correct speed and stiffness for you. Old generation or new generation doesn’t matter dudley squat.
Yes the carbon layers expands the parameters a little but not too much…

Cheers
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So I thought I would give anyone interested in these rubbers an update.

After trying a bunch of alternative rubbers, I have now decided to make the Gewo Codexx EL Pro 52 my backhand rubber and the EF Pro 54 my forehand rubber after all.

What's changed my mind? Well, I seem to be winning a lot more since I took these rubbers on board and having more fun with variety of shots and precision - it seems I can do anything now with quality.

In particular I note that when compared to normal Euro/Jap rubbers like the Rasanter R series, K3, FastArc G1, Xiom Omega VII Pro and Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 50 Hard that these rubbers give me better arc and spin.

Whilst power has been lacking, I am now refining my technique to generate more power.

What is particularly notable about these rubbers is :

  1. that they seem very durable including the tackiness
  2. my ability to drop the ball short on any type of shot is amazing
  3. the spin generated in brushing serves is better
  4. my precision is really amazing
  5. The control is really great, I can even chop away from from the table as slow and medium paced loops (fast ones or super spinny like 2nd or 3rd loops against chops are not possible with this rubber and my inner carbon blade)
What is missing is
  1. some zing on my powerdrives and punches
  2. some spin and power on long serves (I typically sink the ball heavy into the rubber to generate the spin on these, which is more difficult with the harder rubber)

Whilst I generally would hate to think of myself as one of 'those' players that keep pushing, and generally prefer an open game, I must admit that I am winning a huge amount of shots with my pushes now. I can generate so much spin that I get a lot of dumps into the net or shots pinging off the table, so fast long attacking pushes, super heavy spinny pushes and short drop pushes are all better then I have ever played before with any rubbers. I have tried a lot recently, including quite a few butterfly rubbers as well as hurricane rubbers and prefer these GEWO rubbers.

I imagine that people with more power and better technique wouldn't even have my 'power' complaints as I am finding now that I am focussing on improving my stroke, the power gap seems to be closing somewhat.

I wonder why these rubbers are not more popular? On top of everything else, they are quite reasonably priced.

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Oh nittaku acoustic series has very good ball feeling, yeah better to stick with it.

In general, newer blades feel more powerful since they are designed for pro players of the current era.

Then you probably should train towards having more racket head speed to generate power in your shots using coddexx.

See my post above - that's exactly what I have done and it's starting to pay off. THanks for the advice.
 
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