Hurricane III outlaw rubbers.

[igorponger]

OUTLAW HURRICANE III RUBBERS.

TAKE NOTE, please, that Hurricane III sandwich combination is only entitled to use one type of sponge -- blue 39 hardness degree. Any other combinations of Hurricane III topsheet with different sponges are illegitimate (bastard) products.
Please be aware that provincial and national Hurricane III using a variety of sponges, other than blue 39 °, should be taken as outlaw products and should be dealt with accordingly.

For legal sustainment refer to the ITTF instructive letter

-- 5.2.4 Marketing or distributing sponges of different materials in combination with the same topsheet is not permitted and shall be a subject to penalty sanctions.
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Get alert against the bastard China producs.

 

[Tyce]

It would be really helpful if you concentrate all this information in a single thread rather than post small snippets all over the forums. It's so hard to find all the relevant information this way...

 

[Jslick89]

Show me on the doll where DHS Hurricane 3 touched you.

 

[lodro]

Show me on the doll where DHS Hurricane 3 touched you.

here and here and here and yes there as well and all his friends touched me too and now i feel dirty all over and smell of fish.

 

[igorponger]

ID LABEL ON DHS RUBBERS IS DUE AND OVERDUE.

Yes, bastard Hurricane III versions (those using sponges other than 39° blue ) are now forbidden to play with. To make things easy for umpires, the Hurricane III sponge of standard type is now labeled with ID vouch stamp by DHS manufacturer on voluntary basis. It is obligatory for all players to use the labeled sandwich rubbers during a competition. Thus could umpire verify legality of player's racket. While doing the final racket control, the racket covering is detached and sponge is examined.
--- JUST LOOK. The attested rubbers would feature the ID label, and the bastard rubbers would not.

Yes, ID label is a great vouch of fair play with all players and manufacturers.

 

[lodro]

While doing the final racket control, the racket covering is detached and sponge is examined.

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[Tyce]

Are you suggesting we need to introduce velcro instead of glue?

 

[Zwill]

Are you suggesting we need to introduce velcro instead of glue?

There are some inks that light up in X-ray, no? So would be possible without removing the sheet.

But I would be disgusted if DHS needs to register Hurricane 3 like 10 times and pay the ITTF charge 10 times. While DHS would have no trouble coughing up the dough but still it is going to ITTF.
I could only accept if they at least use 1080p and 60fps smartphones to broadcast live. Hell, broadcast all angles and let the viewer choose which angle he/she likes.
If ITTF or WTT does this then I am game to pay a dollar more for my H3 or whatever bastard rubber igor is talking about.

Also from Game of Thrones, bastards are pretty cool sooooo...

 

[lodro]

I am game to pay a dollar more for my H3 or whatever bastard rubber igor is talking about.

Oohhh I love it, a complete new angle. Here is someone who actually believes that friend Igor knows what he is talking about 🤣
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[Zwill]

Oohhh I love it, a complete new angle. Here is someone who actually believes that friend Igor knows what he is talking about 🤣
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You dare to doubt igor? Blasphemy! You need some firewood and fire to "tickle" your feet until you be happy 🔥

 

[Caracas]

Who cares? @igorponger

 

[igorponger]

HAVING an ID LABEL ON SANDWICH RUBBERS IS DUE AND OVERDUE.

The only sandwich combination permissible for players to play with is the one attested by ITTF. Refer to the ITTF Rule 3.2.1.3 for legal confirmation.

For this present time, it is impossible for umpire to tell an approved sandwich combination from the one unapproved. ( =illegitimate product).

The situation is growing even worse now that China manufacturers supplying a great variety of non-approved products to marketplace.

This is the very reason that we adviced ITTF to implement the ID label on major Сhina brands, e. g. DHS and 729, with the view to enable umpires to recognise the unapproved sandwich rubbers. Good to see, the brands responded positively to our proposal.

 

[Caracas]

HAVING an ID LABEL ON SANDWICH RUBBERS IS DUE AND OVERDUE.

The only sandwich combination permissible for players to play with is the one attested by ITTF. Refer to the ITTF Rule 3.2.1.3 for legal confirmation.

For this present time, it is impossible for umpire to tell an approved sandwich combination from the one unapproved. ( =illegitimate product).

The situation is growing even worse now that China manufacturers supplying a great variety of non-approved products to marketplace.

This is the very reason that we adviced ITTF to implement the ID label on major Сhina brands, e. g. DHS and 729, with the view to enable umpires to recognise the unapproved sandwich rubbers. Good to see, the brands responded positively to our proposal.

Nobody cares.

 

[igorponger]

SOME RELATED FACTS ABOUT Hurricane III rubber.

-- Of all China tt olympians, Ma Long is the only one to use sandwich combination currently attested by ITTF (-standard topsheet + sponge 39 blue ).
The rest of China olympians are known to use a bastard sandwich combination unapproved by ITTF.

-- Wang Chugin, the nice-looking youngster, is kinda of Devil under guise of innocence. Using Hurricane III 40 degree sponge heavily boosted. Same is Fan Jendong,'s daily racket.

The team of crooks, indeed.
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FAIR PLAY FIRST

 

[ttarc]

https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment/manuals -> M4: Racket Coverings

The relevant parts are
"2.1 PRODUCT AND BRAND Authorisation is given to the top sheet plus the top sheet / sponge combination. All top sheets with the same ITTF number and brand name must have the same geometry, properties, and branding area (wording and numbering)."
and
"SAMPLES The brand should submit the following to the address given under 1.3 CONTACT. For pimples in/anti  1 pcs top sheet sample of black and one additional colour (without sponge).  Complete racket covering sample of: - each colour (except black colour) with each available sponge, with the thickest available sponge - black colour with one sponge colour only, with the thickest available sponge...

For racket coverings which are sold with multiple versions of sponge, a different country of origin statement may be used for each version, in order to specify sponges from different countries."
Some rubbers like Rasanter R47 https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment_preview/racket_coverings/1673 are listed with a specific sponge color. Others like Evolution MX-D https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment_preview/racket_coverings/2965 or Dignics 09C https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment_preview/racket_coverings/1808 or Tenergy 05 https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment_preview/racket_coverings/1775 or H3 https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment_preview/racket_coverings/2083 are listed without a specific sponge color. Sponge hardness is neither tested nor authorized by the ITTF.

In short: all known H3 or B2 are perfectly legal. Regardless which sponge color or sponge hardness (at least with a black top sheet)

@lodro quite funny to see no Chinese players on https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment/racket_control_infractions but Alexis Lebrun, Cho Daeseong or Bruna Takahashi. ITTF did dismantling tests: page 30 https://documents.ittf.sport/sites/default/files/public/2024-02/2024_ITTF_Council_documents_EN.pdf

 

[pong99]

Sponges have a normal amount of manufacturing tolerance. A sponge marked as 40d is really not 40.000. It's 40 +/- X. If X is 1 degree then the rubber you buy at retail could be 39-41.

Any manufacturer could then measure each individual sponge for hardness and weight and sort them for their sponsored players. So it's easy for a rubber maker to give players different sponge hardness.

A maker that is honest about tolerances is TSP. You will see that in rubber thickness, they quote rubber as 1.7-1.9mm, etc.

 

[igorponger]

https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment/manuals -> M4: Racket Coverings

The relevant parts are
"2.1 PRODUCT AND BRAND Authorisation is given to the top sheet plus the top sheet / sponge combination. All top sheets with the same ITTF number and brand name must have the same geometry, properties, and branding area (wording and numbering)."
and
"SAMPLES The brand should submit the following to the address given under 1.3 CONTACT. For pimples in/anti  1 pcs top sheet sample of black and one additional colour (without sponge).  Complete racket covering sample of: - each colour (except black colour) with each available sponge, with the thickest available sponge - black colour with one sponge colour only, with the thickest available sponge...

For racket coverings which are sold with multiple versions of sponge, a different country of origin statement may be used for each version, in order to specify sponges from different countries."
Some rubbers like Rasanter R47 https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment_preview/racket_coverings/1673 are listed with a specific sponge color. Others like Evolution MX-D https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment_preview/racket_coverings/2965 or Dignics 09C https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment_preview/racket_coverings/1808 or Tenergy 05 https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment_preview/racket_coverings/1775 or H3 https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment_preview/racket_coverings/2083 are listed without a specific sponge color. Sponge hardness is neither tested nor authorized by the ITTF.

In short: all known H3 or B2 are perfectly legal. Regardless which sponge color or sponge hardness (at least with a black top sheet)

@lodro quite funny to see no Chinese players on https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment/racket_control_infractions but Alexis Lebrun, Cho Daeseong or Bruna Takahashi. ITTF did dismantling tests: page 30 https://documents.ittf.sport/sites/default/files/public/2024-02/2024_ITTF_Council_documents_EN.pdf

ITTF would grant endorsement for sponge of ONE type only. All the "additional sponges" being forbidden as bastard outlaw.
Don't display your poor competence about ITTF actual practics. Please.

 

[ttarc]

ITTF would grant endorsement for sponge of ONE type only. All the "additional sponges" being forbidden as bastard outlaw.
Don't display your poor competence about ITTF actual practics. Please.

Tibhar Hybrid MK: one authorization number and at least three different sponges (normal, pro, fx),
MX-P and MX-P 50: two different sponges, like Hybrid K3 and K3 Pro, Donic BlueStorm Pro and Pro AM, Gewo Codexx EL Pro 52 and EF Pro 54 (different sponges and different colors), Codexx Pro Super Select (two sponges), Nittaku Hammond Z2 (two different sponges), Nittaku Hurricane 3 Turbo Blue, Turbo Orange and Pro (three different sponges with the same topsheet).

 

[Tyce]

ITTF would grant endorsement for sponge of ONE type only. All the "additional sponges" being forbidden as bastard outlaw.
Don't display your poor competence about ITTF actual practics. Please.

No.
You are wrong.

 

[ttarc]

No.
You are wrong.

Igorponger will not give up