Ito: I'm not sure I will play for another 4 years

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I don't remember how many events it took her, but Odo's rise to WR#8 was pretty meteoric as well. I am very happy for the both of them.
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She is rejuvenating with a break, she'll be fine. Hayata has a broken hand, Miwa is sixteen and the golden child, Ito is cannon fodder for the CNT, Hashimoto chops, and Odo hides her serves and will be unmasked by TTR. That leaves Hirano to save the day. Tieba users have spoken.
so far, who is still left on the not yet retire list?
 
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Hayata 3-4 CIC (-11, -8, -5, 6, 15, 4, -10)

神风要坠机了? (Kamikaze is going to crash?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9650162533
大藤沙月(内战版) 0-2受难中,早田好像世界杯还没拿过牌,美和伊藤都有一个铜牌。神风特攻队这么快就要成为萤火虫了嘛(三体梗)
IP属地:广东来自Android客户端1楼2025-04-17 12:15回复
(0-2 and suffering. Hayata seems to have never won a medal in the World Cup, Miwa and Ito both have a bronze medal. Kamikaze Special Attack Units are going to become fireflies so soon? (Three-Body joke))

dslang66 早田好像走下坡路了
IP属地:山东4楼2025-04-17 12:20回复
(Hayata seems to be on the decline)

陈小虹shine 苹果盒这个周期伤病影响 早已不是全盛时期的她 不出我所料 确实打不过学姐 然后学姐再输世一 太妙啦~
IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端5楼2025-04-17 12:21回复
(Apple Box has been affected by injuries in this cycle. She is no longer in her prime. As expected, she really couldn't beat the senior sister [TL's note: CIC]. Then the senior sister will lose to the WR1. It's wonderful~)

贴吧用户_0eQXC3P 早田最近一站不如一站连郑怡静都打不过了
IP属地:江苏来自iPhone客户端6楼2025-04-17 12:24回复
(Hayata's recent performance is getting worse and worse and can't overcome even CIC)

wejrrwe 早田最近不是打谁都战战巍巍吗
IP属地:日本来自iPhone客户端7楼2025-04-17 12:25回复
(Hasn't Hayata been timid recently when playing anyone?)

神和他棱角优美的球拍 神风out。板载!!
IP属地:山东来自Android客户端8楼2025-04-17 12:25回复
(Kamikaze out. Banzai!!)

裴焕(挑战鹰眼版) 全日锦努力过好像就再也没发挥好了吧
IP属地:广东来自Android客户端10楼2025-04-17 12:26回复
(It seems she's never performed well again after giving her all at the All-Japan TTC)

町走不说话 早田确实是不行了
IP属地:广东来自Android客户端11楼2025-04-17 12:27回复
(Hayata is indeed no good)

鹰眼(永享太平版) 不信,影后的演技时刻罢了,等着世锦赛回宫给你们来个大的
IP属地:辽宁来自Android客户端12楼2025-04-17 12:32回复
(I don't believe it. It's just the acting moment of the actress. Wait until she returns to the palace to give you a big surprise at the WTTC)

拜神社的张本 看来神风特工队不如东乡神社啊
IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端13楼2025-04-17 13:18回复
(It seems that the Kamikaze Special Attack Units are not as good as the Togo Shrine?! [TL's note: Hinting at Harimoto1])

早田希娜(神风版) 已经结束啦😭🏳️
IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端15楼2025-04-17 13:42收起回复
(It's finished😭🏳️)
大藤沙月(内战版): 别伤心,等会我估计也输袁嘉楠陪你
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(Don't be sad. I'm afraid I'll lose to Yuan Jianan and join you later)

Robkh 完全和奥运前的早田不一样了,不会是下一个伊藤吧
IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端16楼2025-04-17 13:58回复
(She is totally different from the Hayata before the Olympics. Is she the next Ito?)

早田的摆速怎么下降了这么多 (Why has Hayata's transition speed declined so much)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9650290966
乌鸦之神 感觉早田打球风格都变了,更偏向手感流,球打的骚气。
以前是打硬实力的感觉
IP属地:法国来自Android客户端5楼2025-04-17 14:49回复
(I feel that Hayata's playing style has changed, leaning toward playing with touch and her game has this foxy vibe.
In the past, she played with raw power)

贴吧用户_a2R8WaJ 张本林昀儒小勒布伦摆速都在掉,没人能够对抗年龄增长带来的反应速度下降
IP属地:山东来自iPhone客户端6楼2025-04-17 15:40回复
(Harimoto, LYJ and Little Lebrun are all losing transition speed. No one can resist the decline in reaction speed caused by aging)

早田现在这么菜了么 (Hayata is so weak now?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9650199868
LuluLala507 她以前状态很好那会也输过,反正就是一直打不好学姐,去年受伤之后更难打了
IP属地:云南来自Android客户端5楼2025-04-17 12:43回复
(She also lost before when she was in good shape. Anyway, she has always had trouble playing Senior Sister. It became even harder after she got injured last year)
 
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This one was during WTT CT Taiyuan 2025.

感觉早田的日女二号位也不保了,像上个周期的伊藤呐,真还说不定呢 (I feel like Hayata's second place as JNT women is no longer secure, just like Ito in the previous cycle, there is no telling)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9636125593
bsddyhjsnz 最近几次比赛都游的很厉害,马上要清沙特的700分,奥运铜牌的700分,清完之后就只有1000多了。世界杯和世锦赛的压力都很大。
但她现在基本上赢不了中国主力,还随地大小输,要是这两站大满贯桥本打得好,进了前十后打冠军赛也说不定。
感觉日女现在除了美和比较稳定之外,其他的真的都看签位,要是没了种子位又第一轮就遇到国乒,积分永远上不去。只会恶性循环
IP属地:湖南来自Android客户端1楼2025-04-10 17:56回复
(She has been losing early pretty bad in recent competitions. The 700 points for Saudi Smash and the 700 points for the Olympic bronze are about to expire. After that, she will only have a little over 1000 points. The pressure of the World Cup and the WTTC is very high.
She basically cannot beat the CNT main players now, and yet she loses everywhere. If Hashimoto plays well in these two GSes and enters the top ten, she may play in WTT CS.
I feel that except for Miwa, who is relatively more consisent, the other JNT women really depend on the draw. If they lose the seed position and meet the CNT in the first round, their points will never go up. It will only be a vicious cycle)

贴吧用户_aMQXaWP 早田没什么用了,一个中国主力都赢不了,还没削球手威胁大
IP属地:山东来自Android客户端4楼2025-04-10 18:00回复
(Hayata is more or less useless. Can't even beat any CNT main player, and not as threatening as a chopper)

鹰眼(永享太平版) 早田是影后,大赛前深谙韬光养晦,如果小瞧她,可能又要重演32强的场面了
IP属地:辽宁来自Android客户端6楼2025-04-10 18:19收起回复
(Hayata is an Oscar winner, and she knows how to keep a low profile before the majors. If you underestimate her, the scene of R32 may repeat again)
天天开心~$: 现在国乒都去研究美和大藤了小心世乒赛早田给他们来个大的
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(Now the CNT is studying Miwa and Odo. Be careful that Hayata may give them a big blow in the WTTC)
 
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Hayata felt that her game before Paris 2024 was revived, at least for this match, but added that despite winning Zennihon Takkyu 2025, her current ability does not match that sensation.

She also touched on the seamless ball after making out of the group stage.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyrZFj-hAnM

【インタビュー】早田ひな 決勝T進出「今回はボールが違う。1年に1回使うかどうかのボール」|ITTF女子ワールドカップマカオ2025
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Harimoto 3-4 WMY (8, 5, -7, 12, -7, -7, -10)
G7 20, 21, 31, 42, 45, 65, 67, 77, 79, 89, 810 Harimoto's shovel/hook serve floated a little high, 1010, 1012

As reported by Migu, Harimoto said up front that missing that shot at 10-10 in the 7th game was the reason for the loss.

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平野は9年も前にW杯取ってるんだよな
(Hirano won the World Cup 9 years ago)

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予選リーグを公開抽選しときながら本選は非公開抽選してんのウケる
>>784
中国トップ不参加だった年だな
決勝の相手が鄭怡静
(It's funny that they made the draw ceremony for the group stage open but close for the main draw [TL's note: the main draw ceremony is actually available at Migu Video]
>>784
That was the year the top CNT players didn't participate
The opponent in the final was CIC)

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>>803
平野はアジア選手権優勝がやっぱ凄いと思う
中国トップゴボウ抜きで金
(>>803
I think Hirano's Asian Championship victory is amazing
She beat China's top combo to win gold
)

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>>807
ご尤も
個人的にもあれ以上の偉業をシングルスで達成した日本選手はその後出ていない
準々決勝の丁寧(当時WR1)戦で相手のマッチポイントを5度も凌いで大逆転勝ち
準決の朱雨玲(WR2)、決勝の陳夢(WR5)にともにストレート勝ちっていう衝撃
地元中国の完全アウェイの中、両脇に三人の中国選手従えての表彰式なんて中々の感動もんよ
(>>807
You're right
I personally don't think there has been a Japanese player who has achieved a greater feat in singles since then.
In the quarterfinal against Ding Ning (then WR1), she overcame 5 match points to win the match.
She also won in straight games against Zhu Yuling (WR2) in the semifinal and Chen Meng (WR5) in the final.
It was quite moving to see her at the award ceremony with 3 CNT players on either side of her in a completely away match on their home turf, China.
)

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0対3から追いついて最後の一点取れなくて負けたの観ると
五輪の平野の試合思い出すな
(When I see her catch up from 0-3 and then lose because she couldn't score the last point, it reminds me of Hirano's match at the Olympics)
 
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Ito 3-4 (9, 6, -4, -9, 8, -9, -7)

Ito admitted as much. She knew she had to get the game in the second half of G6, and she thought oh no to herself and felt dizzy again. For G7, she was up 4:0 without doing anything and her body was relaxed and felt good but then in the second half her mind started drifting and couldn't command her body. She was able to score points with one-shot winners, but when it came to the rallies, or when she was being forced to take a shot or being hit hard, she ended up getting pushed around and it was tough. She knew it would be difficult in the second half if it turned into a rally game, so she wanted to get in as many one-shot winners as possible.

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https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...orld-cup-macao-2025-4-14-20.35712/post-519930
That doesn't apply to Ito. Her game is all about ending the point at the first opportunity, which is reinforced by former HKG player Ng Wing Nam in the RTHK commentary. She actually predicted the outcome after KM leveled the game score to 2-2, that as long as KM could get the point into the rally stage then Ito would lose on her own.
 
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Ishikawa couldn't be happier after her retirement and said she wouldn't want to go through it again.

石川佳純さん「もう一度、その時間を過ごそうとは思えないし、よくやったな、よく頑張ったな、と思えます」
https://world-tt.com/blog/news/archives/261905
 
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As explained in TV Tokyo's interview, Ito's stamina can no longer keep up.

【卓球】伊藤美誠「もちろんメダルを獲りたい」6度目世界選手権個人戦へ手応え W杯から帰国
https://hochi.news/articles/20250421-OHT1T51215.html?page=1

伊藤美誠、世界卓球メダルへカギは「自分らしさ」「頭の体力」…W杯銅メダルから帰国
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/04/21/kiji/20250421s00026000288000c.html

原点回帰の「下がらない伊藤美誠」。メダル獲得の卓球W杯で見せた“大魔王”完全復活の予感
https://real-sports.jp/page/articles/202504210/
 
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Nakazawa's latest interview makes clear Hayata and Hirano are still the leading figures.

【卓球】日本女子代表監督・中澤鋭「「ロス五輪の金メダルを獲るためには世界選手権で中国を破らなければ現実味が帯びてこない」
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/af1786e6bbdbf0d94a339e743b608b644f7acfaa
https://plus.world-tt.com/2025/04/21/中澤鋭-代表新監督に聞く「日本の強化」/
4/26(土) 6:00配信
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長期的には「ラリー戦の強化が課題」と語った中澤監督

日本女子代表新監督・中澤鋭氏

日本女子卓球代表の新監督に就任した中澤鋭氏が、2028年のロサンゼルスオリンピックに向けた抱負と戦略を月刊卓球王国の最新号で語った。

中澤監督は「ロスオリンピックで金メダルを獲るためには、まず世界選手権で中国を破らなければ現実味が帯びてこない」と強い意志を示した。
監督としての新たな役割について、「選手たちを世界の舞台でメダル獲得へ導きたいという想いが常にあった」と説明。「代表監督として、女子ナショナルチームの合宿を増やして、中国を打倒するための情報共有を図りたい」と述べた。

合宿では、実力者の早田ひなや平野美宇らが「中国選手に勝った方法」をディスカッションし、情報を共有することでチーム全体の力を引き上げていく考えを示した。「ナショナルチームとしての強力な体制を整え、中国に対抗するための戦略を練りたい」と語り、選手のメンタル面や戦術面の重要性も強調した。

また、5月の世界選手権ドーハ大会に向けて短期間の強化策として「サービスと3球目攻撃の精度を上げたい」としながらも、長期的には「ラリー戦の強化が課題」と語った。

中澤監督は、「2028年のロスオリンピックで団体金メダルを目指す上では、まず世界選手権での戦果が重要だ」と強調。強豪中国に挑む日本女子ナショナルチームの構想に期待したい。
(卓球王国6月号・卓球王国PLUSから一部を引用)
Head coach Nakazawa said that in the long term, "strengthening rallies is an issue"

In the latest issue of Monthly Table Tennis Kingdom, Nakazawa Rui, who was appointed as the new head coach of the Japanese women's table tennis team, spoke about his aspirations and strategy for the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics.

Coach Nakazawa expressed his strong will, saying, "To win the gold medal at the Los Angeles Olympics, we must first beat China at the World Championships, otherwise it will not be realistic."

Regarding his new role as coach, he explained, "I have always wanted to lead the players to win medals on the world stage." He said, "As the national team coach, I would like to increase the number of training camps for the women's national team and share information to defeat China."

At the training camp, big wheels such as Hayata Hina and Hirano Miu discussed "methods to beat Chinese players" and expressed their intention to improve the strength of the entire team by sharing information. "I want to establish a strong system for the national team and develop a strategy to compete against China," he said, emphasizing the importance of the players' mental and tactical aspects.

In addition, as a short-term improvement measure for the World Championships in Doha in May, Nakazawa said, "I want them to improve the accuracy of serves and 3rd-ball attacks," but in the long term, he said, "I need them to improve the rallies."

Coach Nakazawa emphasized, "In order to aim for the team gold medal at the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics, it is important to achieve results at the World Championships first." We look forward to seeing what the Japanese women's national team has to offer as they take on the powerful Chinese team.
 
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村松心菜/MURAMATSU Cocona is coming.

スターツ杯  2025 年アジアユース卓球選手権大会・世界ユース卓球選手権大会 U-15・U-18 男子日本代表選手選考会
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WTT CT Tunis 2025
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Karlsson 3-0 Matsushima (12, 9, 7)

5ch users are pretty much in line with Tieba users on Matsushima.

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2025/04/26(土) 10:30:15.53ID:RY6HUXJb
まあどちらにせよ宇田が負けた事で松島の決勝進出は確実だろう
おそらくベスト8の相手は宇田を倒した奴だろうしで相手は強いけど松島なら普通に勝てるだろ
カールソンが相手だったとしても予選からアラミヤン兄弟戦の出来じゃ松島には勝てない、松島はフォアも強いアラミヤン兄みたいなもんだからアラミヤン兄の上位互換である
ベスト4もリンドかヨルジッチが濃厚でヨルジッチになら楽勝、リンドは少し厄介だけど松島ならいけるだろう

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2025/04/27(日) 03:18:25.78ID:zzoW3Qu0
マジかよ、松島、カールソンにストレート負けかよ、、、、、、、

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2025/04/27(日) 03:18:34.20ID:HxL2gz0J
結局カールソンめちゃ元気で草

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2025/04/27(日) 03:36:20.37ID:nIy6+mQg
全日本王者の松島が負けたのにニセミズタニは大喜びか
そんなんだから強化書も追い出されたんやで

235名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!
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2025/04/27(日) 03:38:07.06ID:Ugd7nSMr
左利きマニアは戸上だけがカールソンに勝てないのを相当気にしてたからな

237名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!
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2025/04/27(日) 03:45:07.41ID:Sa0qC+Ic
篠塚がぬるりとベスト4
安定感は日本トップだろ

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2025/04/27(日) 06:16:24.52ID:BuPKi5dr
松島はこういうのなくさないとな
うまくいかない逆境でも腐らず考え食らいつく
世界トップ層と渡り合っていくにはまだまだイージーなミスが多すぎる
サーブに頼りすぎてる部分がある
基本技の底上げが必要

247名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!
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2025/04/27(日) 06:38:18.82ID:AutJqBXc
松島の試合結果に驚愕してここきたらアホの大荒れが平常運転でなんかむしろ安心したわ
篠塚の試合だけ後から見たけど、安定感というより単純に強くなってると思う。ここ最近の試合結果だけ見たら安定感といえば篠塚より寧ろ戸上って印象
レジムスキのあの内容なら少し前の篠塚なら全然負けてた。次勝てたらホントに凄いよ

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2025/04/27(日) 06:46:51.74ID:J26UQhAZ
神童が負けただと?
そんなことは許されない
カールソンはケガと騙した卑怯なやつだ
後で罰金とポイント没収をするべき
ユンジュにやったやつな

249名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!
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2025/04/27(日) 07:30:52.55ID:YfZHeFiK
パリ五輪松島が出てたら勝てたとかいう謎理論に理があるとすれば戸上カールソン戦の一戦のみだけど、それすら成り立たなくなったな

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2025/04/27(日) 10:04:25.70ID:aqb2qCQk
戸上に負けた時カールソン高熱だったらしいよ

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2025/04/27(日) 10:17:06.09ID:amNSNuCf
>>263
それ言い出したら2週間前から今回までで痛み止めに頼って無理矢理試合出ていたカールソンにすら田中と松島は勝てなかったんだから言い訳にもならんでしょ
実際に田中戦から松島戦までの計3週間の試合はどの試合も負けてもおかしくはなく田中松島以上に他の奴らの方が通用していた
宇田もカールソンには勝てなかったろうけど田中松島よりは通用する試合が出来たよ

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2025/04/27(日) 18:47:52.76ID:W1jVf9Bz
マツケンがコトンに注目と言ったあとすぐにコトンが松島に勝ったときは
マツケンの見る目とタイミングすげ~wって思った


这个猪少爷
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9669046471
Sora挺强的啊,世乒赛怎么居然去不了?
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9670162574
日骰被卡尔森0封
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那年杏花微雨,少爷你说巴黎你上能行
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《如果奥运会是我上,那是可以赢的》然后就被卡尔森林零封捏
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9671728916
卡尔森是不是狠狠研究了松岛
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9671817525
 
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村松心菜/MURAMATSU Cocona is coming.

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村松心菜/MURAMATSU Cocona is coming.

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I remember seeing Cocona Muramatsu play in some Youth Contender. Solid player on a great trajectory. Japan has a strong pipeline of young females in U15 including Cocona and Miku Matsushima.
 
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The outlook for Matsushima is actually rather challenging. This is the 2nd year in a row that she finished 5th. I have a hunch she is gonna end up like her older brother when it comes to selection trials.

Ishida, the girl who won, has never competed internationally and will play her first WTT Youth event at WTT YCT Helsingborg 2025 (and then WTT YCT Sandefjord 2025).

2011/11/19 石田心美/ISHIDA Kokomi
2012/04/04 村松心菜/MURAMATSU Cocona
2013/06/24 松島美空/MATSUSHIMA Miku
 
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The outlook for Matsushima is actually rather challenging. This is the 2nd year in a row that she finished 5th. I have a hunch she is gonna end up like her older brother when it comes to selection trials.

Ishida, the girl who won, has never competed internationally and will play her first WTT Youth event at WTT YCT Helsingborg 2025 (and then WTT YCT Sandefjord 2025).

2011/11/19 石田心美/ISHIDA Kokomi
2012/04/04 村松心菜/MURAMATSU Cocona
2013/06/24 松島美空/MATSUSHIMA Miku
Well, I wish them all the best of luck. Hard to predict what will happen in the future when they're just 12/13 years old right now, but Miku has had some pretty good international results in the Youth category including multiple titles in the U13/U15 category. She is 2-0 H2H vs. Cocona who is a year older. She also played well in U17 making the SF at Gangneum, S. Korea before losing to Su Tsz Tung (16 yr old) in a decider. There also seems to be more emphasis on world ranking (at least for the Olympics) going forward vs. selection trials but who knows what the JTTA will come up with.
 
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