Jpen TPB tips

[Jpenbeginner2223]

I've been playing jpen for a few months now and I am committed to the art of learning this style, I still suck at using TPB effectively though.
There are almost no Jpen players at my club so i cant really get much tips on how to improve my TPB so i thought i would come here once again and ask you guys for some tips.

 

[greenbeanmachine]

(former jpen player here)

The biggest way for me to learn was by watching other jpen players (in videos, like Ryu Seung Min, Cazuo Matsumoto, Kim Taek Soo, etc). Watching cpen players who use TPB (like Ma Lin) is also useful. There are also many useful tips on youtube:

 

[greenbeanmachine]

A master class in 1-sided penhold:

 

[kobe23]

Not sure if you are aware, you can actually play TPB like shakehand BH *tiny* flick. Would need to modify grip slightly, but pretty aggressive. Might be tricky to return the spinniest underspin, but the topspin generated in general is quite aggressive.

 

[JJ Ng]

Not sure if you are aware, you can actually play TPB like shakehand BH *tiny* flick. Would need to modify grip slightly, but pretty aggressive. Might be tricky to return the spinniest underspin, but the topspin generated in general is quite aggressive.

Follow Mauricio Bernales Ketterer on Instagram. His handle is mbernalesk. He is Chilean player who uses one side Jpen style. He has some videos showing his BH flick. Yes it is quite aggressive.

However at this point, the most important thing for you to learn is to 1) block consistently and 2) focus on the short game in the backhand side. No need to learn the aggressive flick just yet.

 

[kobe23]

Follow Mauricio Bernales Ketterer on Instagram. His handle is mbernalesk. He is Chilean player who uses one side Jpen style. He has some videos showing his BH flick. Yes it is quite aggressive.

However at this point, the most important thing for you to learn is to 1) block consistently and 2) focus on the short game in the backhand side. No need to learn the aggressive flick just yet.

Not sure why this suggestion but, okay.

 

[Lazer]

I put together a J-pen earlier this summer and played it for the first time for real Monday. It was interesting, first off I found that TPB was a lot easier than RPB and this grip has an advantage. There is no "pocket shadow" area, seamlessly transfer into FH. And I have to agree with JJ Ng, Blocking is the most important part of TPB. But it can be a bit awkward to angle the wrist correctly.

In the beginning my active blocks went long but after an hour practice it went much much better. I had the privilege to play a "Nittaku excellent 1ply" with Rakza 7 on the front and DHS C7 (long pips) with sponge on the back. The blade had cork on the back side so it had to be removed and I spend ~hour a day for a week too scrape it off. I used my nails and a sharp knife, It went really well. Wen I managed to set a few RPB backhands my partner was surprised at the flat trajectory.

If I was starting now, for sure I would select penhold.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[kobe23]

I do not think the replies actually understand what I meant. I mean you can use the 'form' of Tpb, but play a consistent topspin return, or even add spin, which is similar to what you can do with shake hand bh.

 

[Lazer]

I do not think the replies actually understand what I meant. I mean you can use the 'form' of Tpb, but play a consistent topspin return, or even add spin, which is similar to what you can do with shake hand bh.

With one disadvantage, You would have to use the speed of the ball, very hard to put significant speed on a slow ball, didnt say impossible but very difficult. Therefore (active) blocking becomes most important.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[kobe23]

With one disadvantage, You would have to use the speed of the ball, very hard to put significant speed on a slow ball, didnt say impossible but very difficult. Therefore (active) blocking becomes most important.

Cheers
L-zr

That's why I said nobody understood my statement. I cannot do tpb consistently, and thus developed a 'tpb with topspin'. No point keep replying to my comment if you haven't figured what I meant. The method create topspin from tpb, if that explains. Speed from incoming ball helps, but not necessary.

 

[netdriver]

to the OP; i wish i can give you more in-depth tips but my TPB has always been pretty sh!t from the get go is not my strongest skill (thats why i am CPEN now )

but heres some general advice you should look out for.

1) always try to push the ball right when the ball reaches the peak of its bounce; push the ball too late and its more likely to go to the net.

you can get away with an earlier timing sometimes but thats usually when you're trying to defend yourself from a fast topspin ball (and the only option you will have most of the time facing such balls).

2) i think this is a given but as with all table tennis techniques; use your body to push the ball instead of just using your arm. you will be more consistent and have better control of the ball.

personally i way i approach TPB is how you would do a punch but more of a gentle jab instead of a full force Mike Tyson punch. i would turn my waist and hips to reel back my blade in position. once the ball comes, i turn my waist and hips outwards and use the momentum to push my forearm outwards to contact and "push" the ball. posture is low with knees bent throughout the technique.

elbow should be almost sticking to ur side and your blade should just go in a forward direction; not upwards or anything. if you're facing heavy topspin you press down on the ball.

also here's a tutorial on the rare technique of TPB smash but personally i dont think you really need it, its rare for a reason (low percentage shot);

 

[netdriver]

TPB basic with english subs available

 

[jbvttcc]

I've been playing jpen for a few months now and I am committed to the art of learning this style, I still suck at using TPB effectively though.
There are almost no Jpen players at my club so i cant really get much tips on how to improve my TPB so i thought i would come here once again and ask you guys for some tips.

As a fellow Jpener, good thread topic! 🇯🇵✍️

 

[jbvttcc]

Not sure if you are aware, you can actually play TPB like shakehand BH *tiny* flick. Would need to modify grip slightly, but pretty aggressive. Might be tricky to return the spinniest underspin, but the topspin generated in general is quite aggressive.

I do not think the replies actually understand what I meant. I mean you can use the 'form' of Tpb, but play a consistent topspin return, or even add spin, which is similar to what you can do with shake hand bh.

That's why I said nobody understood my statement. I cannot do tpb consistently, and thus developed a 'tpb with topspin'. No point keep replying to my comment if you haven't figured what I meant. The method create topspin from tpb, if that explains. Speed from incoming ball helps, but not necessary.

Can you share a pic of the slight grip modification? And maybe a video of the stroke motion and then using it in play?

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Its hard for me to tell how exactly this dude does this, because he does it very fast and it is difficult to ascertain the positioning of his fingers on the blade. But this guy Eduardo Tomoike is capable of a very shakehands-esque bh technique with his tpb

 

[greenbeanmachine]

Its hard for me to tell how exactly this dude does this, because he does it very fast and it is difficult to ascertain the positioning of his fingers on the blade. But this guy Eduardo Tomoike is capable of a very shakehands-esque bh technique with his tpb

He's playing with pips on FH/TPB. Looks like black is long pips and red is short pips.

EDIT: Oh you're talking about the other player lmao. The pips player has a fascinating style, and also amazing TPB...

 

[netdriver]

He's playing with pips on FH/TPB

no, eduardo tomoike uses single side inverted JPEN

but you can indeed do something similar to edurado tomoike's technique with short pips:

 

[greenbeanmachine]

no, eduardo tomoike uses single side inverted JPEN

Oh yeah lol I thought you were talking about the other player in the first video, who is also playing TPB.

I think that Tomoike is suppinating his wrist quite extremely. You can see in the photo above that the racket is angled down quite a lot. The jpen blade assists with this, because it lets you completely remove your thumb from the wings of the blade, and press down with the thumb on the handle. Technique is specified in this video:

 

[jbvttcc]

to the OP; i wish i can give you more in-depth tips but my TPB has always been pretty sh!t from the get go is not my strongest skill (thats why i am CPEN now )

but heres some general advice you should look out for.

1) always try to push the ball right when the ball reaches the peak of its bounce; push the ball too late and its more likely to go to the net.

you can get away with an earlier timing sometimes but thats usually when you're trying to defend yourself from a fast topspin ball (and the only option you will have most of the time facing such balls).

2) i think this is a given but as with all table tennis techniques; use your body to push the ball instead of just using your arm. you will be more consistent and have better control of the ball.

personally i way i approach TPB is how you would do a punch but more of a gentle jab instead of a full force Mike Tyson punch. i would turn my waist and hips to reel back my blade in position. once the ball comes, i turn my waist and hips outwards and use the momentum to push my forearm outwards to contact and "push" the ball. posture is low with knees bent throughout the technique.

elbow should be almost sticking to ur side and your blade should just go in a forward direction; not upwards or anything. if you're facing heavy topspin you press down on the ball.

also here's a tutorial on the rare technique of TPB smash but personally i dont think you really need it, its rare for a reason (low percentage shot);

If you could get around to providing the English transcript for this video, that would be great. 😉

 

[Wakkibatty]

I put together a J-pen earlier this summer and played it for the first time for real Monday. It was interesting, first off I found that TPB was a lot easier than RPB and this grip has an advantage. There is no "pocket shadow" area, seamlessly transfer into FH. And I have to agree with JJ Ng, Blocking is the most important part of TPB. But it can be a bit awkward to angle the wrist correctly.

In the beginning my active blocks went long but after an hour practice it went much much better. I had the privilege to play a "Nittaku excellent 1ply" with Rakza 7 on the front and DHS C7 (long pips) with sponge on the back. The blade had cork on the back side so it had to be removed and I spend ~hour a day for a week too scrape it off. I used my nails and a sharp knife, It went really well. Wen I managed to set a few RPB backhands my partner was surprised at the flat trajectory.

If I was starting now, for sure I would select penhold.

Cheers
L-zr

Thanks for posting this 🙂

Don't want to derail the thread, but do many J-Pen players prefer no cork in the BH side?

I've heard recently a lot of J-Pen players actually prefer no cork on the backhand, so I'm intrigued you chose to remove it, and all the reasons why. I'm new to J-Pen myself and am currently experimenting with using it as well in order to better understand it's nuances.

As I understand it, the cork is there only to provide grip and dull vibration. Does the cork somehow interfere with backhand side technique? (I'm in the process of developing up my own line of J-Pen one plys, so all these subjects are of enormous interest to me).